L4D THE most overrated game ever?

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#1 bcjkdem
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^ what the title says. cant believe that every reviewer gave this garbage of a game a good review. i would rather play nazi zombies on COD 5, and that was a free add-on to an already great game. this game should have been an add-on to the orange box, and cost half as much at most. $65 to do the same thing over, and over, and over again? nikka please!! this game is now added to my list of games that successfully gets away with the same repetitive crap, and actually gets praised for it. some others on this list... the GOWs and Halos (from game to game, not individually).

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#2 sensfanVone
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No, I never read your post but what you wrote is probably wrong, so.. no.

By the way upon actually reading your post the word Nikka just made you lose any credibility you and your six L4D hating posts may have had.

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#3 Tjeremiah1988
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Idk if this is a troll account but ill ask this. Do people still play this game? My friends bought it but they dont play it anymore. Also I notice on the box it doesnt have a option for content download. I can understand people playing it on PC since you can mod it to w/e.
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#4 Sgt_Politeness
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I think you're just playing the wrong kind of game. GOW, Halo, LFD, all of those games are enjoyed by plenty of people who don't have a problem with them. Apparently you have a different taste in games.
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#5 Omali
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Idk if this is a troll account but ill ask this. Do people still play this game? My friends bought it but they dont play it anymore. Also I notice on the box it doesnt have a option for content download. I can understand people playing it on PC since you can mod it to w/e. Tjeremiah1988

 Valve are  working on content much like they are with TF2. I don't know what the content is going to be, your guess is as good as mine.

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#6 bcjkdem
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No, I never read your post but what you wrote is probably wrong, so.. no.sensfanVone
dont comment unless you actually read my opinion please.
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#7 sensfanVone
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Idk if this is a troll account but ill ask this. Do people still play this game? My friends bought it but they dont play it anymore. Also I notice on the box it doesnt have a option for content download. I can understand people playing it on PC since you can mod it to w/e. Tjeremiah1988

Congrats to your friends, but yeah, a lot of people are still playing.

I read the post TC, and I was right in my original assessment.

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#8 bcjkdem
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I would expect a lot more from valve, from whom every other game I have absolutely loved. I have been playing half-life since the original one on CPU about 12 years ago. I also loved both TFs, so when this game came out, I was very dissapointed. I expected a lot more depth out of such a great developer.
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#9 LordWaspy
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I have heard but not played this game so I cant really judge what you are saying, but dont think that the GOWs and the Halos are rubbish.
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#10 matt3456
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I'm not sure if this guy is a troll or not but he's played COD 4 and WAW, Madden, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3.  I'm not really sure what's so different about COD and L4D.  COD is run, get behind cover, shoot, run, get behind cover shoot.  But that doesn't mean that it isn't a great game.  GOW and Halo may be the same thing over and over but that doesn't mean they aren't great games. 

Most games are pretty much the same thing over and over.  Variety in gameplay isn't what makes them fun it's how well the core gameplay mechanics are implemented.  Mario is the same thing over and over but because the platforming is done perfectly it's a great game.  Look at the Cabela's hunting games.  They're shooters where you basically do the same thing over and over again but they aren't fun because the gameplay mechanics aren't done very well.  That's why Halo, GOW, COD and yes L4D are fun games because their core gameplay mechanics are implemented very well.

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#12 bcjkdem
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and maybe some reasons this game is so great, instead of, "you're stupid, this game rocks!!" type posts. i want to be a believer (as I have only played the demo) being such a valve lover.
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#13 neo_one
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I agree that it is overrated...probably not the most overrated ever though ha. I bought it on friday knowing that it wasn't going to be deep or anything like that, so i wasn't really disappointed. It is definitely fun to play with friends, but the fun ends there and you realize it is a very shallow experience. I know people dont like when others complain about there only being 4 levels...but come on, that is ridiculous on a full priced game. The "replayability" everyone is talking about isn't what i thought it would be either. Overall, yes, definitely overrated 

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#14 Lanezy
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You don't like the game because it's repetitive? Please tell me what makes it repetitive compared to any other shooter, especially CoD: WaW.
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#15 neo_one
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Most games do get repetitive, but most games have a story to keep you wanting more
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#16 matt3456
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I'll give you some reasons. Because the game forces cooperation between teammates. In Gears or Halo co-op you can get away with going solo. In L4D you have to stick together and help each other to survive. If you want variety you should play versus. You take turns with the other team being the special infected and the survivors. There are few things more satisfying than vomiting on the survivors as the Boomer and watching as the infected swarm them. Getting into a match where people are working together makes this game an awesome experience.

Also in the future if you want opinions on why the game is good maybe you should say so in the first post.

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#17 bcjkdem
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first of all, please dont compare cabella's hunting games to great games like COD and any of the fallouts (i have played and beaten all 3). and honest[QUOTE="matt3456"]

I'm not sure if this guy is a troll or not but he's played COD 4 and WAW, Madden, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3.  I'm not really sure what's so different about COD and L4D.  COD is run, get behind cover, shoot, run, get behind cover shoot.  But that doesn't mean that it isn't a great game.  GOW and Halo may be the same thing over and over but that doesn't mean they aren't great games. 

Most games are pretty much the same thing over and over.  Variety in gameplay isn't what makes them fun it's how well the core gameplay mechanics are implemented.  Mario is the same thing over and over but because the platforming is done perfectly it's a great game.  Look at the Cabela's hunting games.  They're shooters where you basically do the same thing over and over again but they aren't fun because the gameplay mechanics aren't done very well.  That's why Halo, GOW, COD and yes L4D are fun games because their core gameplay mechanics are implemented very well.

first of all, please dont compare cabella's hunting games to great games like COD and any of the fallouts (i have played and beaten all 3). and honestly, how are you even going to compare tactical type games to a game like this? L4D....hordes of endless zombies running at you/mindless shooting at head level as fast as possible, near endless ammo. COD....sneaking, taking a few well aimed shots at 1-2 guys. I'm not seeing how these 2 games are anything alike. and you take about mario being the same thing over and over, but being a great game. this was like 17 years ago it was a great game. look at the ones now. they all have tons of different modes, and very dynamic in gameplay. the standred for games is higher now, and when repetitive games like this come out and get hyped up, it just annoys me. and GOW 1 was cool. the 2nd is pretty much the same thing. same with halo. i wasnt saying the single games themselves are bad. and WTF is a troll? are you guys serious? im just a dude who loves video games, probably a lot like you guys. there's no reason to hostile ladies.
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#18 Lanezy
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and maybe some reasons this game is so great, instead of, "you're stupid, this game rocks!!" type posts. i want to be a believer (as I have only played the demo) being such a valve lover.bcjkdem

So you haven't even played the game yet?!? I was ready to have a sensible debate with you, but this is just trolling as far as I'm concerned. Please play the full retail release before you judge a game.

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#19 bcjkdem
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why would i buy the game, after making a reasonable conclusion after playing through the demo that I dont like the type of game it is? are you going to argue with me, and try and tell me that the full version is so much more deverse? probably not, because every player review I read says it isn't.
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#20 Nocturnal15
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If you think GOW 1 is better than 2 then there is a problem. The first one was full of fail from the campaign to the multiplayer. 2 has a crappy multiplayer but makes up with an epic campaign, bots (all shooters need bots), and horde mode. L4D isnt getting 60$ from me. I will wait when either alot of content is released for it or it drops to 30$.
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#21 matt3456
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first of all, please dont compare cabella's hunting games to great games like COD and any of the fallouts (i have played and beaten all 3). and honest[QUOTE="matt3456"]

I'm not sure if this guy is a troll or not but he's played COD 4 and WAW, Madden, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3.  I'm not really sure what's so different about COD and L4D.  COD is run, get behind cover, shoot, run, get behind cover shoot.  But that doesn't mean that it isn't a great game.  GOW and Halo may be the same thing over and over but that doesn't mean they aren't great games. 

Most games are pretty much the same thing over and over.  Variety in gameplay isn't what makes them fun it's how well the core gameplay mechanics are implemented.  Mario is the same thing over and over but because the platforming is done perfectly it's a great game.  Look at the Cabela's hunting games.  They're shooters where you basically do the same thing over and over again but they aren't fun because the gameplay mechanics aren't done very well.  That's why Halo, GOW, COD and yes L4D are fun games because their core gameplay mechanics are implemented very well.

bcjkdem

first of all, please dont compare cabella's hunting games to great games like COD and any of the fallouts (i have played and beaten all 3). and honestly, how are you even going to compare tactical type games to a game like this? L4D....hordes of endless zombies running at you/mindless shooting at head level as fast as possible, near endless ammo. COD....sneaking, taking a few well aimed shots at 1-2 guys. I'm not seeing how these 2 games are anything alike. and you take about mario being the same thing over and over, but being a great game. this was like 17 years ago it was a great game. look at the ones now. they all have tons of different modes, and very dynamic in gameplay. the standred for games is higher now, and when repetitive games like this come out and get hyped up, it just annoys me. and GOW 1 was cool. the 2nd is pretty much the same thing. same with halo. i wasnt saying the single games themselves are bad. and WTF is a troll? are you guys serious? im just a dude who loves video games, probably a lot like you guys. there's no reason to hostile ladies.

I wasn't trying to start a fight with you.  I just wanted to offer an opinion.  If you would read my post a little better you would see that I'm not comparing the actual gameplay mechanics.  You're complaining that L4D is the same thing over and over.  I'm saying that all the games that you've played are the same thing over and over too.  What makes them great isn't the variety it's that their gameplay mechanics are well done.  The Cabela's games are the same thing over and over again but that isn't what makes them bad.  The terrible gameplay is what makes them bad.

And you make it sound like you should get an award for having played all of the Fallouts.  Well I have too so pin a medal on my chest.  

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#22 neo_one
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I'll agree with what you are saying with gameplay mechanics making a game good, but the mechanics of Left 4 Dead aren't anything to rave about. Hold the trigger down and hope you have enough ammo to hold off a wave, then do it again and again. The teamwork adds a little flavor, but it cant mask the fact that the game is very simple and not very rewarding
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#23 bcjkdem
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never tryed to sound conceded about fallout man. just simply trying to say that ive been playing games for a long time, and I play through games I enjoy, not just a part. and yes sorry i read your post wrong, you are 100 % correct about every thing. except for the fact that this game deserves to be listed with those other games, IMO. the core gameplay machanics of the game are not comparable. I feel this is mindless compared to other games, thats what my whole agrument boils down to.
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#24 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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Then don't play it simple as that and how about u quit bashing an awesome game
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#25 neo_one
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Hey man, i didn't say i dont like it. I just think it is overrated (topic)
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#26 bcjkdem
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thank you. save me some posts :) and i love how people can make a topic about how great this game is (the reason I made this topic), but the second someone downs it, all hell breaks out
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#27 BadKarma5g
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This game has to be played ONLINE not alone . My brother played it alone with the campaign an liked it but he hasn't played it online where the **** can hit the fan if cooperation isn't there and he always asks how can i play the game still when the campaign keeps bein beaten....well different spawn areas of weapons and enemies its never the same and you always have new online teamates and its good when you get a crew that works and can take down the 2 tanks on advanced then run for the boat Rv etc. Also you need to play this on advanced not normal . It will give you more desperation an laughs . Ya its not as pretty as gears of war 2 which i own but L4D is different and its zombies man and they run you down like dawn of the dead . Honestly I beat gears 2 alrdy and i bought it for the multyplayer online ....wtf's up with the lag? can't leave the game either ? smoke grenades knock u on your ass lol , wtf did they do to gears multyplayer sigh.......now theres some patches. Also in game informer there will be more downloadable maps fpr L4D.
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#28 matt3456
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Fair enough. It definitely seems to be love it or hate it with this game. I don't love it but I do enjoy playing versus alot. Maybe if you got the chance to play versus it would change your mind. I haven't even played the campaign because I'm having so much fun with it. I think the shooting works really well.
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#29 thorking999
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ok try not hating on all the good games. l4d is a great game you can finally play as a zombie cool zombies at that whats to hate
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#30 bcjkdem
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Fair enough. It definitely seems to be love it or hate it with this game. I don't love it but I do enjoy playing versus alot. Maybe if you got the chance to play versus it would change your mind. I haven't even played the campaign because I'm having so much fun with it. I think the shooting works really well.matt3456
ty, these were the posts I was looking for.
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#31 bcjkdem
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ok try not hating on all the good games. l4d is a great game you can finally play as a zombie cool zombies at that whats to hatethorking999
What? English, please.
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#32 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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Fair enough. It definitely seems to be love it or hate it with this game. I don't love it but I do enjoy playing versus alot. Maybe if you got the chance to play versus it would change your mind. I haven't even played the campaign because I'm having so much fun with it. I think the shooting works really well.matt3456
dude versus is amazingly fun especially when u know the other three ppl in ur party but ya after playing cod4 for so long this is a breath of fresh air
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#33 Lilyungblood08
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it seems like it has less to do in the package over other big games this seasons but i still think its worth playing
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#34 s2i2p2i2o
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I don't agree with you when oit comes to gow or halo. EVERY secual is alot like the first game!!
but I do agree with you on L4D. it's just a bad, repedetive game that ppl, for some unknown reason, say is great.
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#35 Lanezy
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why would i buy the game, after making a reasonable conclusion after playing through the demo that I dont like the type of game it is? are you going to argue with me, and try and tell me that the full version is so much more deverse? probably not, because every player review I read says it isn't.bcjkdem

Well, maybe it has something to do with you saying, "every reviewer gave this garbage of a game a good review." And your solely basing your opinion on the demo alone. I'm saying, play the full retail release before you make such claims.

Also, you say, "i want to be a believer (as I have only played the demo) being such a valve lover." But you already have your mind made up because you repeatedly state how much you don't like this game and you've argued with people who are trying to defend it.

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#36 s2i2p2i2o
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Then don't play it simple as that and how about u quit bashing an awesome game XD4NTESINF3RNOX

Why cant we "bash an awesome game"? isn't that a part of these forums? I hate when as soon as someone says something bad about a big game there's always someone there to say something like, "quit bashing this game, it's great!" if it's ok for ppl to make topic where everyone says how great a game is, then it should be ok to make a topic where everyone tells the truth abou... cough cough... i mean, says how bad they think the game is....

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#37 maccer101
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overrated? yes, its not terrible though
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#38 s2i2p2i2o
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l4d is overrated, but not the most overated game ever, that's fable! or maybe gta 4 or mgs4 (mgs4 is GREAT but not THAT GREAT!)
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#39 Reepeet
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You know what? I think that L4D IS completely overrated. It does sound like an interesting premise, however, it is a game that focuses completely on repetition. I was looking forward to the game and I even played the demo, however I failed to realize that even having 3 other people to play with doesn't make this game that much more fun. In fact, it ruined my gameplay. Impatient, overly cocky, and selfish players hog up the game lobbies of today. Whatever happened to the intelligent and friendly gamer? Now it's only the hicks of arcade. It is a difficult journey for any true gamer to find a game and peers worthy of our time. The last game I played that "wowed" me was Mortal Kombat Vs. DC. The plot of the game is beyond ludicrous, but the gameplay? Superb. As far as repetition is involved, this game NEVER gets old. Great fighting dynamics, stellar character models, and innovative additions to an already seasoned and distinguished series. To return to the topic at hand, I love Zombie games. I just feel like they haven't got it right for the 360 yet. But who knows what the future holds? Doom 4 would be a welcome blessing in my opinion.
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#40 Bromz
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I played the demo and wasn't a fan. However I wasn't playing co-op which I'm pretty sure would have made me fallen in love with it since I love co-op. But mainly I'm just not a fan of how valve does shooters, is an ironsight really too much to ask? But ye, I'll be looking for it cheap next year and will be trying to get my friends to get it.
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#41 Lanezy
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Then don't play it simple as that and how about u quit bashing an awesome game s2i2p2i2o

Why cant we "bash an awesome game"? isn't that a part of these forums? I hate when as soon as someone says something bad about a big game there's always someone there to say something like, "quit bashing this game, it's great!" if it's ok for ppl to make topic where everyone says how great a game is, then it should be ok to make a topic where everyone tells the truth abou... cough cough... i mean, says how bad they think the game is....

Bceause when you attack a critically acclaimed game with no meaningful reasons as to why you hate it, of course people are going to defend it.

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#42 CBR600-RR
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Valve could of done better. I just couldn't get into it, too repetative.
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#43 OfficialBed
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halo 3 is the most overrated game ever, not L4D
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#44 sensfanVone
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[QUOTE="sensfanVone"]

No, I never read your post but what you wrote is probably wrong, so.. no.

By the way upon actually reading your post the word Nikka just made you lose any credibility you and your six L4D hating posts may have had.

bcjkdem

did your parents beat you as a small child? you have a lot of anger built up there guy. the "nikka" part was joke. do you u know what that is? a joke? u are overly defensive about this game for some reason man, and I think your opinions are bias. I would love to hear more opinions from people that are not.

Yes my parents beat me, does that make you feel better now? It still doesn't change the fact that you are incorrect in your original post.

Neither does it change the fact you've attempted to pick a fight with everyone in this thread who has disagreed with you, and then have the gall to call ME biased? Sorry dude it doesn't work that way in the real world.

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#45 MsCortana
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I don't think it was over-rated. However, there simply isn't enough content to keep you coming back for more. After killing over 33,000 Zombies, picking up most of the achievements and experiencing plenty of multiplayer/co op sessions this game has nothing else to offer. The longevity is not there and definitely isn't worth sixty dollars. This is a rental at best until extra content is added.
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#46 sensfanVone
Member since 2006 • 1714 Posts

I don't think it was over-rated. However, there simply isn't enough content to keep you coming back for more. After killing over 33,000 Zombies, picking up most of the achievements and experiencing plenty of multiplayer/co op sessions this game has nothing else to offer. The longevity is not there and definitely isn't worth sixty dollars. This is a rental at best until extra content is added.MsCortana

Definitely, I'm sure if they release some cool versus map packs and an extra campaign or two it will seem worth it, but out of the box it's hard to justify the price tag.

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#47 Deltapixel
Member since 2008 • 154 Posts
def. one of the most overrated imo. the game is repetitive, gameplay is bland and generic, i REALLY don't see what's so good about it.
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#48 ngboy
Member since 2003 • 319 Posts
i'm glad i rented this game. while the co op was fun the first time around, i just didn't find much replay value in it. i know they "randomized" the zombie spawn points each time you go through it, but you're still running through the same map. people bring up cod and gears as being repetitive also, but the difference is that cod and gears actually have a story involved. there are objectives that vary depending on the story. with l4d, it's basically get to this point without dying. it does get rather old. even the vs mode it's the same deal. get to this point before the other players stop you. being a zombie is probably the only redeeming part of this game, but even then it's actually not that exciting.
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#49 gusphan
Member since 2003 • 25 Posts

I don't think it was over-rated. However, there simply isn't enough content to keep you coming back for more. After killing over 33,000 Zombies, picking up most of the achievements and experiencing plenty of multiplayer/co op sessions this game has nothing else to offer. The longevity is not there and definitely isn't worth sixty dollars. This is a rental at best until extra content is added.MsCortana

I find it interesting that people say it's not worth $60 or that it should be a rental. For example, Ms. Cortana says she has killed over 33,000 zombies. I've played the game for over 30+ hours and have only killed about 15,000 (for those of you who are wondering what this means, the game keeps track of how many zombies you kill). Now, maybe she just tossed that number out, I dunno, but playing a game for 30+ hours (these days) certainley warrants my $60 and doing that with a rental would be quite the feat (of course, if you want to take personal vacation time, be my guest).

I write this not to bash anyone, but I have to imagine there are people out there trying to decide if they should get this game or not. I'll try to help you out-

Get this game IF:

1. You plan on playing online

2. Your friends don't have to have this game for you to enjoy, but you will want to make friends with people in the lobbies you meet.

3. You plan on using the mic to communicate.

4. You like using your mind. Yes, I said "Mind". I can understand how at first glance people say it is "mindless", but I assure you, it's anything but that if you want to be good at the game. You absolutely need to plan, strategize, and communicate with your teammates if you want to survive harder difficulties or rule at versus mode. It's only mindless on easy and normal b/c it's hardly a challenge to experienced gamers. I could write more on how it's not mindless but this post is long enough.

5. You enjoy seeing the synergy of proper teamwork.

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#50 Mau-Justice
Member since 2008 • 4907 Posts

Bad economy, and huge holiday competition that all delivered...now is a bad time for Valve to want 60$ for a game that's so light on content.

Honestly I don't see the 360 L4D community lasting more than 2 months. It's an awesome game, there should have been more content though.

It blows my mind, the company that released The Orange Box, the greatest value in gaming...I guess they make up for it by making a light multiplayer shooter template(L4D) and charging 12$ for the same old Portal...