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#51 mankvill
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I think it's pretty fun, especially with 4 friends on the highest difficulty, but I don't think it justifies the price tag. Almost, but not completely.
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#52 jackophant
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This game has a lot of potential, its arcade play style really adds a unique flavor to the tired zombie survival genre, but the demo was rather bland, hopefully the full game will through new stuff at you as you progress through the campaigns.
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#53 howlrunner13
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any one else feel disappointed when playing the left 4 dead demo? After i played through the 2 levels i immediately deleted it off my hard-drive. 

 Here were couple things that i extremely disliked...

 1. Pistols have unlimited ammo. This totally eliminates the whole survival part of the game. You could have 4 people each with dual pistols shooting down hordes of zombies. lame. 

 2. Getting hit by zombies virtually does nothing. I was in the middle of a crowd of zombies getting hit and i was watching my life bar barely taking any damage.I had to wait 10 secs in order for me just to fall on the ground until one of my teamates came up to me and healed my life back up to full. 

3 .Shooting weapons gives no satisfaction to the user. Same could be said about actually shooting the zombies. Shooting at them seems rather weak and boring. 

4.  Graphics are based on a engine that is almost 5 years old. So of course they look bad compared to todays games. You cant argue with that. 

5. The game is too linear for its own good. Blocked off paths? seriously?

 

 This game wont get anything above a 7.5 here. 

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1.  Then don't use the pistol.   Try and take down a tank with pistols.  Yeah, didn't work did it?  Or try playing on expert.

2.  Stop playing on easy.  On Expert they do 20 damage per hit, you are most likely going down if you are by yourself and a horde attacks(even if you are with everyone, unless you have a really good spot you'll most likely take some damage or get knocked down).  Plus medkits are few and far inbetween and they go quick, so that argument about being healed is null. 

3. Weapons seem fine for me.  Did you even try to shoot them?  Shooting them is very satisfying.  Shoot em in the head, or use the hunting rifle.

4. NOTHING is wrong with the graphics.  They are perfectly fine.  They DO NOT look bad.  Just because it doesn't look like Crysis or COD 4 doesn't mean the graphics are "outdated".

5. Meh, there are some different paths, if you actually tried to even look.  Though its not open ended or anything.  Plus this is only 2 of 20 levels.  You don't know how the other levels play out.  So again argument is null.

Sounds like you are just hating on it just to hate on it.  You need to spend some time with game, not run through it on easy with the AI teammates.  Get a group of friends together and play on Expert.  That's where it really shines.  You'll have so many insane and funny moments.

 

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#55 grafkhun
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1- too bad pistols are weak against any of the special zombies, try killing a witch with the pistol, go one, do it... oh wait, you can't!

 

2- play on expert.

 

3- looks like someone didn't get up close with the shotgun.

 

4- the source engine is old, agreed, but to me, the game looks fine.

 

5- what's wrong with that?

 

I think you're expecting to much from it, it's a game where you kill zombies with your friends, nothing more, nothing less. Some of us love zombies, and we can't wait for L4D because it offers exactly what we want, MASSIVE ZOMBIE HORDES AND LOTS OF GUNS!

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#56 matte3560
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1. Pistols have unlimited ammo. This totally eliminates the whole survival part of the game. You could have 4 people each with dual pistols shooting down hordes of zombies. lame. 

The pistols arent very good at close range, and if you feel it eliminates the survival aspect, turn up the difficulty for god sake!

 2. Getting hit by zombies virtually does nothing. I was in the middle of a crowd of zombies getting hit and i was watching my life bar barely taking any damage.I had to wait 10 secs in order for me just to fall on the ground until one of my teamates came up to me and healed my life back up to full. 

Incresing the difficulty increases the damage of the zombies attack, at expert difficulty,a single hit takes 20 HP (at normal, its just 3)

3 .Shooting weapons gives no satisfaction to the user. Same could be said about actually shooting the zombies. Shooting at them seems rather weak and boring. 

Name a game that feels any better... shooting and meeleing to hold of a horde of infected feels quite satisfying to me...

4.  Graphics are based on a engine that is almost 5 years old. So of course they look bad compared to todays games. You cant argue with that.

The graphics aren't bad at all, its the first time i've ever seen shadowing effects like that from a flash light, and there arent many games out ther today that can have around 40 enemies on screen at once

5. The game is too linear for its own good. Blocked off paths? seriously?

Valve has done testing with some open environments, and it turned out to be plainly frustrating, getting lost, when its already hard enough to keep youre team together and on theyre feet.

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#57 kozzy1234
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Sucks that you dont like FUN games :o

23 hours i spent on the demo, play it on expert with 3 friends and its great teamwork gameplay.

The game isnt out yet, but ive had more fun with this demo then FULL versions of games i bought this year and enjoyed (gears2, fable2, crysis warhead, tales of vesperia, lbp, MGS4, etc..). Left4Dead is just so much more fun then other games this year imo.
Cant wait for the full version (got it downloaded already from steam. they let you preoload it after you preorder it). Cant wait to play it at midnight on monday night! (teusday morning)

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#58 cazzyno1
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what i don't like is clearing a room and then walking around then all of a sudden the room you just cleared has a horde of 30 zombies coming at you .
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#59 DoMiNiC147
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I don't think it's a disappointment and been playing it over and over. It might be my most played demo. Can't wait for the game.
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#60 wwervin
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Everything you (TC) stated was based on your personal opinion. I for one thought it was a lot of fun, especially co-op.

Graphics don't matter, seemed fine to me.

Pistols are useless especially if you play the game on expert (did you?) and you're fighting off a Tank or a Witch or something like that. Also, when there's a swarm of zombies after you (such as when you get puked on), those pistols aren't gonna help.

Also, it is very easy to die, especially in the higher difficulties.

I think if you haven't done so, play on expert and play with some friends, and you'll see what it's like in its full enjoyment. I think this is a good game (my personal opinion) and it wasn't dissapointing.

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#61 matte3560
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what i don't like is clearing a room and then walking around then all of a sudden the room you just cleared has a horde of 30 zombies coming at you .cazzyno1
yeah, it would be much better if they had just left the zombies out of the game...

oh, wait... that just took away the whole point of the game didnt it?

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#62 _Kikode_
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Anyone know when Gamestop is getting theres in store preorded and forgot to ask cause I bought other games as well.
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#63 wwervin
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what i don't like is clearing a room and then walking around then all of a sudden the room you just cleared has a horde of 30 zombies coming at you .cazzyno1

Yeah every once in a while if you stay in one place too long a new wave of zombies attacks you. The only problem is that this zombie wave can't just spawn out of nowhere, so they're usually shown coming from rooms or windows or something, often from a room you just cleared. One time a friend of mine got puked on at the end of that 2nd level and the zombie horde spawned out of the safe room. It's weird I know, but it's a good system because it shows that you can't just stay in one place when dealing with the zombies and you have to move to the destinations in the game.

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#64 tyvivanco
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any one else feel disappointed when playing the left 4 dead demo? After i played through the 2 levels i immediately deleted it off my hard-drive.

Here were couple things that i extremely disliked...

1. Pistols have unlimited ammo. This totally eliminates the whole survival part of the game. You could have 4 people each with dual pistols shooting down hordes of zombies. lame.

2. Getting hit by zombies virtually does nothing. I was in the middle of a crowd of zombies getting hit and i was watching my life bar barely taking any damage.I had to wait 10 secs in order for me just to fall on the ground until one of my teamates came up to me and healed my life back up to full.

3 .Shooting weapons gives no satisfaction to the user. Same could be said about actually shooting the zombies. Shooting at them seems rather weak and boring.

4. Graphics are based on a engine that is almost 5 years old. So of course they look bad compared to todays games. You cant argue with that.

5. The game is too linear for its own good. Blocked off paths? seriously?

This game wont get anything above a 7.5 here.

ReaperV7

i am guessing u are playing on normal difficulty settings go to expert mode and irt only takes 3 hits, if something is too easy change the difficulty and then problem solved, goodluck beatiing it, I only beat it once on expert.

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#65 nickdastick
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[QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="boxofwit"]i played the demo earlier today, i see what you mean but you can't deny that it's fun. it won't get 7.5, 8 minimum, 9 max,C-Lee

well the thing is ....is not fun...not fun at ALL. theres no way in hell it will get a 9 here. The reviewers will chew it up and spit it out.

Do you even own a 360? your going to be owned bud. hype is AAA

No joke, I have played this demo numerous times and can't get enough of it! And I love how te TC says it won't get more than a 7.5 here when it's already received a 9.5 and a 9.0 from other reviewers. And I don't get why he says there is no satisfaction from killing the zombies because when I pop their head off, it feels GREAT! And seriously, he must have been playing on Normal, you HAVE to play it on Expert for a real challenge. One hit from a zombie and you lose 20 health. I already have my game payed off and my buddy who just played it last night is now going to buy it. The TC just doesn't know a good game when he plays one.