Lost Odyssey 4 Disc = 32Gigs ? *May have Spolier*

Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

so its like 8 gig per DVD disk with 4 disks.... yeah..

also the achievvements are preatty annoying.. finish disk's.. wow not to be complaining or anithing but its impossible for most ppl.. if u only want to play for fun i think u should buy it.. but achievement... dont accept the achieve them.. lol

Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

xxdeadpeacexx

what? four disks how long is this game gonna be?

I like achievements that reward you for playing through the game and not just random sidetasks. I'm about 90% sure that I'll be buying this game on day 1.Staryoshi87

Lol I agree with you.

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Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

jk3fn99

what? four disks how long is this game gonna be?

Its about 30-40 hours, depending on how thorough you play it. Word of warning though, it has been reported that the game is about 60% cinemas, 40% gameplay. Sorta like Xenosaga was on the Ps2.

Ratchet And Clank Future is around 25gigs, and thats 25hours of gameplay with very short cutscenes, most of which are ingame. Im betting its going to need some HD caching, or it may simply be a play from A to B vs flexible.teebeenz

Well using RaCF as a comparison isn't really that valid. PS3 games have a lot more space on their discs, so a lot of developers aren't even using compression on their data any more (they will as soon as the games need compression, but they really don't yet). A 360 game needs to fit on the limited DVD discs (9gigs a piece as compared to the BluRay's 70 or higher gigs)

I'm sure if you take a 360 game and uncompressed them you'd find that they are quite larger than originally thought. Especially when you consider that the DVD compression tech can shrink data files 6 times their original size.

I'm sure if you take a 360 game and uncompressed them you'd find that they are quite larger than originally thought. Especially when you consider that the DVD compression tech can shrink data files 6 times their original size.CrimsonpugTwo

[QUOTE="CrimsonpugTwo"]I'm sure if you take a 360 game and uncompressed them you'd find that they are quite larger than originally thought. Especially when you consider that the DVD compression tech can shrink data files 6 times their original size.teebeenz

Thanks for proving my point? I guess.

DVD technology has been working on compression tech for almost 10 years now. In the beginning the compression sucked. Which is why the early discs have artifacting problems, halos, bad layer skips, and so on. As the tech advanced, the compression improved. To the point where they can shrink really large data packets much smaller than their original size. Films and data is compressed easier and for that matter read easier.

BluRay discs have had major problems getting their compression tech in line with what they promised from the beginning. They didn't really even have a standard compression routine until late June of this year, a YEAR after the format was released. Heck they couldn't even get the dual layers to work properly, so the full capacity of the discs haven't even been utilized yet. Hence most PS3 games are being shipped out with minimal compression, so they're all pretty much actual data size.

And yes, especially a game like Lost Oddysee which has a TON of HD video, will be extremely compressed so that it can fit on four discs.

And if my logic is still too unbelieveable, check out a few DVD sites like www.thedigitalbits, and even Gamespot itself for news on how Sony and its partners are having difficulty with their manufacturing.

I'm a BluRay adopter, so I'm not trying to bash the format. But I'm also not blinded by fanboy-ism that I can't legitimately call out its flaws either.

[QUOTE="jk3fn99"][QUOTE="xxdeadpeacexx"]

Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

CrimsonpugTwo

what? four disks how long is this game gonna be?

Its about 30-40 hours, depending on how thorough you play it. Word of warning though, it has been reported that the game is about 60% cinemas, 40% gameplay. Sorta like Xenosaga was on the Ps2.

how is it 30-40 hours if its on four disks and the 60% cinemas thing that was like kingdom hearts 2 also

[QUOTE="CrimsonpugTwo"][QUOTE="jk3fn99"][QUOTE="xxdeadpeacexx"]

Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

jk3fn99

what? four disks how long is this game gonna be?

Its about 30-40 hours, depending on how thorough you play it. Word of warning though, it has been reported that the game is about 60% cinemas, 40% gameplay. Sorta like Xenosaga was on the Ps2.

how is it 30-40 hours if its on four disks and the 60% cinemas thing that was like kingdom hearts 2 also

Thats what Gamespot reported in one of their news stories on the game. They said early Japanese reports of the game have it clocking in with about 20 hours of gameplay, and about 24 hours of cinema... so sure thats about 44 hours, but you should know by now that 90% of the gamers around here beat these "40+ hour games" in less than half the advertised time.

Of course Gamespot and a couple game mags also really exagerated Xenosaga's cinema times as well. That game had tons of video to watch, but not nearly as much as what everyone reported. So I'd expect the same from Lost Oddysee as well.

DVD uses the same compression today as it did day 1. It uses MPEG2. While the encoder has increased its accuracy the routine remains the same. This however has nothing to do with game data as its a video compression, which is also lossey and removes data to gain its advantages. BD has had a standard compression routine since day 1, h264 or MPEG4 AVC. It hasnt used Dual Layers as often as the price was still high, as of right now over 80% of all disks produced are dual layer. But once again, none of this effects the game data bar the video which will no doubt be compressed using h264, but still, since its HD video it will still take plenty of space and so meet my estimates.teebeenz

I never said that the compression encoder changed for DVD, I merely stated that it improved.

Yes DVDs use and have used MPEG2 since day 1, you also have to realize MPEG2 was CREATED for DVD. Over the years they've worked on the system and improved it exponentially over what it originally was. Take a film compressed from Day one, and they've been able to compress the same data over six times what it originally was.

BluRays have had a compression routine from Day 1 - yes. But at the same time everyone knows that they launched too early, and none of their advertised routines were ready from launch. Their compressions where bad, not working properly, and on quite a few titles had to be re-manufactured due to compression issues. And sure the price is high on Dual layering BluRays, but that doesn't change the fact that Sony just couldn't get the Layers to work at all for a year into their lifespan.

And I still don't get why you are disagreeing here. I never stated that LO wouldn't have compression. Of course it will be compressed, it'll be compressed even more than any PS3 game. I'm just saying that DVDs, as an established format, have much better and efficient compression techniques than the BluRay format. Heck DVDs have a better compression than HD-DVD as well. Just as DVDs have a much higher Read rate than BluRays and HD-DVD as well. Lost Oddysee has tons more data than RaCF, and therefore will need more compression and obviously more discs. I LOVE the overall space on a BD disc. Its great for films and games. Its just PS3 games are BARELY compressed at all, BECAUSE they have more disc space, and the games haven't grown that much to require the compression to fit on a huge BD disc.

So since RaCF isn't that compressed, using its uncompressed gigs to compare it to a compressed game isn't all that similar. See what I'm saying here?

I cant wait for this game, ill have it pre-ordered for sure.

And the 4 discs isnt a problem as alot of games ive owned over the years where on multiple discs

[QUOTE="teebeenz"]Ratchet And Clank Future is around 25gigs, and thats 25hours of gameplay with very short cutscenes, most of which are ingame. Im betting its going to need some HD caching, or it may simply be a play from A to B vs flexible.CrimsonpugTwo

Well using RaCF as a comparison isn't really that valid. PS3 games have a lot more space on their discs, so a lot of developers aren't even using compression on their data any more (they will as soon as the games need compression, but they really don't yet). A 360 game needs to fit on the limited DVD discs (9gigs a piece as compared to the BluRay's 70 or higher gigs)

Wait a tick! i remember reading that Blueray Disks only go to the max of 50GB on like 4 layers. iv never heard of any blue ray disks over 50 beying made

BluRays have had a compression routine from Day 1 - yes. But at the same time everyone knows that they launched too early, and none of their advertised routines were ready from launch. Their compressions where bad, not working properly, and on quite a few titles had to be re-manufactured due to compression issues. And sure the price is high on Dual layering BluRays, but that doesn't change the fact that Sony just couldn't get the Layers to work at all for a year into their lifespanCrimsonpugTwo

.I never stated that LO wouldn't have compression. Of course it will be compressed, it'll be compressed even more than any PS3 game. I'm just saying that DVDs, as an established format, have much better and efficient compression techniques than the BluRay format. Heck DVDs have a better compression than HD-DVD as well. Just as DVDs have a much higher Read rate than BluRays and HD-DVD as well.CrimsonpugTwo

Lost Oddysee has tons more data than RaCF, and therefore will need more compression and obviously more discs. I LOVE the overall space on a BD disc. Its great for films and games. Its just PS3 games are BARELY compressed at all, BECAUSE they have more disc space, and the games haven't grown that much to require the compression to fit on a huge BD disc. So since RaCF isn't that compressed, using its uncompressed gigs to compare it to a compressed game isn't all that similar. See what I'm saying here?CrimsonpugTwo

Wait a tick! i remember reading that Blueray Disks only go to the max of 50GB on like 4 layers. iv never heard of any blue ray disks over 50 beying madehofuldig

The dvd is still king on paper. There are triple layer dvd's that have 51 gigs of space as compared to bluray's dual-layered 50 Gigs. Mrahahahahaha.... Anyways.Robertoey

Look at this link buddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

Under Ongoing Development, it says it is now possible for standard blu-ray players to read 100GB Blu-ray disks having 100GB with a simple firmware upgrade...Blu-ray is the future man...

[QUOTE="jk3fn99"][QUOTE="xxdeadpeacexx"]

Yea..... The most Anticapte RPG game is going to be on 4 - Disc.

Lost Odyssey is over 32Gigs

Achievements: http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=405

CrimsonpugTwo

what? four disks how long is this game gonna be?

Its about 30-40 hours, depending on how thorough you play it. Word of warning though, it has been reported that the game is about 60% cinemas, 40% gameplay. Sorta like Xenosaga was on the Ps2.

Im bored already

[QUOTE="Robertoey"]The dvd is still king on paper. There are triple layer dvd's that have 51 gigs of space as compared to bluray's dual-layered 50 Gigs. Mrahahahahaha.... Anyways.Geoson

Look at this link buddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

Under Ongoing Development, it says it is now possible for standard blu-ray players to read 100GB Blu-ray disks having 100GB with a simple firmware upgrade...Blu-ray is the future man...

Correct me if im wrong But didnt Sony invited the Blu-Rey Disc?

No blueray="insert next disk and press A".

lol