Mass Effect is NOT an RPG

NONE OF YOU HAVE PROVED ANYTHING. MOST ACTIOSN GAMES YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THINGS. gears of war, half life, rainbow six online, ghost recon, god of war lets you upgrade weapons, extensive dialogue, please MGS2 adn 3 wehre practicly movies. prove me wrong people.

What?! Please tell me at what point you could upgrade a weapon in Gears or Half-Life. Because if you could do that, then about, oh say everybody missed that part of the game. You can get DIFFERENT weapons, but you can't upgrade any weapons. Plus in all those games you can't upgrade your character and build him/her in a certain "class." You can in Mass Effect. What part of that is not a bit RPG?

Wow your really starting to act immature. Mass Effect IS an RPG. Get over it.

im not listening unless your level is higher then mine.

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]Wow, is there even a point in arguing? He seems like he's not gonna change his opinion.ocdog45

/facepalm

Mass Effect = RPG with FPS/Action elements in it ... simple as that..

And also learn how to spell please.

Gamespot has it listed as an Action style "RPG".... You = owned :D

I wonder if this is just some guy who's honestly just doing this all as a joke.... I mean seriously, you are the perfect image of a stereotypical Xbox fanboy.... (blah blah blah, guns no rpg! your gay CAPS ARE COOL! more guns! illiteracy all around!)... You fail to seem to understand what a RPG and what a shooter is...

I really didnt want to post here lol, but here I am.Lets break it down.

Upgrading your weapons =\= Typical Action Game (Show me a game that hasnt got the word rpg in it's description that includes that.

Lvling up =\= Typical Action Game (So far i haven't lvled Gordan Freeman to Lvl 2. I must fail.)

Character Attributes =\=Typical Action Game (Master Cheif has 45 str and 5 dex!)

Free roaming =\= Typical Action Game

All of these wonderful attributes apply to an incredible genre of games we like to call ACTION RPG. Hope that convinced you.

I don't give a flying **** what you classify it as, it's still going to be awesome

I really didnt want to post here lol, but here I am.Lets break it down.

Upgrading your weapons =\= Typical Action Game (Show me a game that hasnt got the word rpg in it's description that includes that.

Lvling up =\= Typical Action Game (So far i haven't lvled Gordan Freeman to Lvl 2. I must fail.)

Character Attributes =\=Typical Action Game (Master Cheif has 45 str and 5 dex!)

Free roaming =\= Typical Action Game

All of these wonderful attributes apply to an incredible genre of games we like to call ACTION RPG. Hope that convinced you.

Fractur3d

Sorry, but Mass Effect is more KOTOR/OBLIVION then Halo, sorry to tell you this but its true.

OK just think tabula rassa and knights of the old republic mixed into one

In all honesty I would think this is an actoin game if I first saw it. But trust me man its an rpg

[QUOTE="Fractur3d"]

I really didnt want to post here lol, but here I am.Lets break it down.

Upgrading your weapons =\= Typical Action Game (Show me a game that hasnt got the word rpg in it's description that includes that.

Lvling up =\= Typical Action Game (So far i haven't lvled Gordan Freeman to Lvl 2. I must fail.)

Character Attributes =\=Typical Action Game (Master Cheif has 45 str and 5 dex!)

Free roaming =\= Typical Action Game

All of these wonderful attributes apply to an incredible genre of games we like to call ACTION RPG. Hope that convinced you.

kozzy1234

Sorry, but Mass Effect is more KOTOR/OBLIVION then Halo, sorry to tell you this but its true.

Lol, i was distinguishing the two. Halo is a pure action game plain and simple, if you will reread what i was saying. Halo does not have stat attributes, action rpgs do, thats the point i was trying to get across.

In all truth any game can be an action game... it just depends on what you consider action.

The way you are thinking however leads me to believe that you must think Oblivion, NeverWinter Nights, Kotor, Eternal Sonata, Final Fantasy, Blue Dragon, or any other RPG must be just an action title.

What makes Mass Effect differ from Final Fantasy? It is a 3rd person game that runs its battle in real-time (Final Fantasy 12 is still not fully real-time). It has a different story, different characters, and etc.

But what else is really different besides the combat system and the conversations? In Final Fantasy you are able to "upgrade" weapons, armor, and even skills (depending on which game you play). Now you can also do that in Mass Effect. In Final Fantasy you are put into an engaging story line that develops the characters and so does Mass Effect.

Now what makes up an RPG? You role-play? Well the game does it for you because role-playing in games is like living the life of that character and trying to actually be that character and isn't that what RPGs do (putting you in the head of the character isn't the same which is what makes Shooters differ from RPGs and of course other obvious reasons).

In all Honesty many of the things that make RPGs what they are is also the same thing in many other games, but RPGs create the game around this things unlike so many other genres. Other genres create their games around their gameplay while RPGs create their game around the story.

If you say Mass Effect isn't an RPG then you are pretty much denying that RPGs are even a genre.

I agree with the majority of comments that you are incorrect here. But then again each of us has an opinion but it does not mean that it is shared by all.

everybody stop arguing with this kid, he doesnt understand that RPG elements can exist in other games, but once we have so many of them combined, it makes it an RPG.

he just wants attention.

So TC i guess oblivion isn't an RPG since there are shooting elements in it as well. Damn how can i be so stupid to think oblivion wasn't an RPG.sirk1264

OMG! Alert the media! Not only did they get the rating wrong but they got the genre wrong too!

Gee,I dont know. Upgrading weapons, multiple storylines, multiple quests, different endings, different abilities, endless travel.

I completely disagree with your post.

Shade-Blade

I don't agree with his post either, but nothing you said necessarily makes a game an RPG. Many FPS games have upgradeable weapons, most open world games like GTA and Godfather have mutliple storylines, etc etc.

What the TC said is basically right, in most all games you take on the "role" of someone else, but that doesn't make each game a "role-playing" game as it is understood normally. Role playing games normally involve deep stories, a much more in depth and fleshed out characters, leveling up and other things.

Mass Effect is the epitome of a western RPG. As for it not being anything but an action game, you really have very little idea what this game is about. Most straight up action games don't have a dialogue system at all, much less one as fleshed out as Mass Effect. The dialogue system allows for you to mold the character you want, so you can "play the role" as you want. Sounds a lot like a "role playing" game to me.

Overall, its getting harder to place many game into the old school rigid genres we used to. Most games now mix aspects of at least a few if not many different genres, which is pretty great if you ask me.

im not listening unless your level is higher then mine.

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]Wow, is there even a point in arguing? He seems like he's not gonna change his opinion.ocdog45

ROFL... Best (and also the absolute worst) reponse ever. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"]So TC i guess oblivion isn't an RPG since there are shooting elements in it as well. Damn how can i be so stupid to think oblivion wasn't an RPG.The_SandRock

OMG! Alert the media! Not only did they get the rating wrong but they got the genre wrong too!

Seriously. They need to alert the media so people don't get confused.

I don't understand how anyone could possibly classify Mass Effect as anything but an RPG. Building a character, choosing a class, upgrading skills and attributes from experience points, upgrading weapons, branching storylines, non-mandatory side quests. It's basically Knights of the Old Republic with new, better technology and a bigger stage. All RPGs have action elements. The most recent video highlighted the combat part of the game, but the flexibility of the combat system doesn't mean it's no longer an RPG. Combat systems in RPGs have always varied--it's the one thing that's *not* constant in RPGs.

Sometimes the action is turn based or variations of turn based, sometimes real time (like Oblivion). But in FPS games, the damage done by weapons (for example) is based on the weapon itself, not the stats of the character wielding it. If you got the BFG early on in the game it does the same amount of damage as later in the game. Not so for RPGs. And that's really the difference between an FPS and RPG--your choices effect the power and skills of the character playing. The focus isn't on the action so much as it is on the choices the player makes. Which is why everyone who plays an RPG will play differently, and their characters will look different at the end of the game. Not so much with Master Chief in Halo, for instance

This isn't rocket science. Anyone who has played and FPS and an RPG could explain this.

Halo is a mmorpg, AC is a shooter that is very linear, and COD4 is a family game like Viva Pinata. That answers your question to agree or disagree:lol:mohammad93

I wasn't gonna post in this topic, but I'm kinda bored atm, so I'll list what it is that makes this game an RPG and not just an action game. Ready? Here goes:

• Character creation
• Classes
• Interactive story with multiple dialog options, and multipe outcomes
• The ability of choice
• Main quests and side quests
• Ability to strategically coordinate your squad's attacks
• Big focus on exploration
• Multiple endings
• Skills that can be 'purchased' with experience points
• Ability to upgrade those skills