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#51 pilotmaster95
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#52 Dub_c6969
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So OJ was found "not guilty" (not innocent, retard and that means he didn't do it even if he did. So how come Vick pleading guilty doesn't automatically make him guilty? Way to completely contradict yourself. If you think OJ is innocent then you are being racist because you only "believe" that because he's black. His blood at the crime scene, her blood in his vehicle is overwhelming evidence. And I'm sure Vick could afford a hell of a lot better lawyer than his buddies that were going to lie for some reason. Unless you believe they were holding dog fights in his home without him knowing? Cause people tend to hold sporting events in my place all the time without me knowing so that's perfectly understandable.. MoronJonPee

He's blood was not found at the scene fool the guy did not even have a scratch on him but there were all kinds of bruise on the victims MMMM. BTW if they did find hes blood at the crime scene then he would have been convicted but they could not even find that....buh buh buh hes guilty....go figure.

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#54 Chibi_Tenchi
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lol, michael vick's career = new age lynching.


beware, those old white republicans runnin the nfl are watching. olololo
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#55 skelly7483
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Hey did ya know that th Georgia Bulldogs are getting rid of their coach? Their getting Mike Vick to teach the Dawgs how to fight.:D

I don't think they could have left the option in for you to be able to play with him... now i'm stuck with Joey Harrington.

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#56 pardue
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Its kinda funny in a league with people doing drugs, running over the elderly, and shooting at cops. That Mike Vick dog fighting takes the worst punishment. Just proves we all love Lassie better than are fellow man. No seriously that damn dog pulled Timmy out of the river six times and a tornado seven and the burning building eight and the.........DepressedHippie

Somewhat true sadly. Even in the real non professional footbal world some people get harsh harsh punishment for doing bad things to animals. I understand that they should be dealt with, but receive the same punishment as someone doing that same torture to a human? Come on.

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[QUOTE="Col_Kilgore"][QUOTE="eatspie"]


[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.Dub_c6969

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children and are now trying to get 2 of the kids in jail for 15 years just for fighting. whats worse is this story is nowhere to be found on the news.

You know what I am sick of? All of these cries of racism when someone gets what they deserve. Funny that you name some of the biggest pieces of trash out there. Simpson is a murderer who pretty much got away with murder, but guess what, the criminal is at it again. Even more sickening is that the black community got behind OJ despite the fact that EVERYONE knew OJ did it. Was it a chance to get at the white man, or would another city be destroyed because a black man got his deserved punishment. Black people want equality and for color not to be an issue, yet it is they that constantly make it an issue. Blacks got behind OJ because he was black, nothing else, and because he murdered 2 white people.

If you're going to make claims, have intelligent evidence to back it up. Mentioning Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson and then crying about rich people whose reputations get ruinedis about as laughable as possible.What about people like BillCosby and the many actors, singers, etcthat are black that obey the law and don't flaunt their race like a flag. They're doing fine. In fact, it was BLACK PEOPLE who turned on Cosby when he spoke the truth abouthow trashy hip hop culture can be and how bad it looks on blacks in general.

Do you have any intelligent evidence that OJ did kill that women no.

He was found 100% liable in civil court. He has been fined over 30 million dollars for restitution to the Brown-Simpson and Goldman families.

OJ is a murdering scumbag and now he is in more trouble. 10 felonies charged against him today and a possible manslaughter charge if the guy whom he robbed in Vegas dies as a result of his heart attack.

Yea, we are after OJ because he is rich and black. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is morally deficient right?

Get over it people, each of the mentioned persons deserve the trouble that they made for themselves.

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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="eatspie"]


[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.eatspie

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children

Yea some of that is true but they put themselves in that situation Know one told Kobe Bryant to sleep with that girl Know one told MJ to have boys at his house and so forth, look at Oprah and Robert Johnson these are the some of the richest African American's and they stay out of trouble because they dont put them self's in stupid situations.

If micheal jakson was white he wouldve won the noble peace prize for letting thoose sick kids come to his amusment park and have a great time. As for kobe hes a good guy but he needs to watch his back people will do anything to get his money.


Michael Jackson is white, he hasnt been black in years.
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Ok guys you really should be honest as towhy you really hate Michael Vick and it's not because of the dog-fighting!..It's the same reason why most of America is the way it is...
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#60 airg6
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wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

Dub_c6969
well thats ok considering 90% of serial killers are white and do dumb S*** like eat people and so forth and shoot up innocent people in schools and turn on there own family members, seems like something is bugging you people but you guys dont even know what it is.

Im not racist but I agree that black people judge white people by their race. Also African americans back each other up just cause their the same color. Thats why most black people think OJ is inoccent. By the way where did you come up with the statistic that 90% of white people kill others. If you ask me you kill enough of your own people every day in gang related shootings and killings.
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#61 airg6
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

Dub_c6969
well thats ok considering 90% of serial killers are white and do dumb S*** like eat people and so forth and shoot up innocent people in schools and turn on there own family members, seems like something is bugging you people but you guys dont even know what it is.

Im not racist but I agree that black people judge white people by their race. Also African americans back each other up just cause their the same color. Thats why most black people think OJ is inoccent. By the way where did you come up with the statistic that 90% of white people kill others. If you ask me you kill enough of your own people every day in gang related shootings and killings.
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Good!
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#63 Adobio
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Ok guys you really should be honest as towhy you really hate Michael Vick and it's not because of the dog-fighting!..It's the same reason why most of America is the way it is...gamer082009

The way most of african americans are is whenever they do something bad or get caught doing something like vick did instead of owning up to it like a man they blame it on racism. Its not because hes black its because hes a criminal. Im so sick of tired of every time something happens to a black person its blamed on racism, how about he commited the f'n crime? He never even tried to deny it.
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#64 DEWMAN08
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Its not even a question about what he did, but he is not playing in the NFL this year for sure.
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#65 bigrhyno
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Oh @$#! here we go! RACE WAR!!!!! Race war! Race war! Race war's on everybody! It's going down, !@#$ is going down!
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#66 Trickshot771
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Ok seriously who the **** cares? This has absolutely nothing to do with the 360 anymore and someone either needs to make this in off-topic or continue aruging in PMs.
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#67 BeErBOnG29
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LOL at this thread! eatspie, I didn't respond to your first post because I assumed you were being sarcastic. Obviously that isn't the case. Stop spewing your ignorant and naive remarks all over the place. Btw, what evidence do we have that Vick is guilty? Hmm... maybe his CONFESSION? Did you completely miss that? Wait you probably thought it was the "white devil" dressed up as Vick, huh?

Seriously, get real. You're supporting your heroes solely due to their race. Deep down inside you know they are all truly guilty of the crimes they have committed (whether proven in court, or not). Keep defending your "black community who was wronged." It's not like you have the intellectual capacity to know any better.

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[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.eatspie

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children and are now trying to get 2 of the kids in jail for 15 years just for fighting. whats worse is this story is nowhere to be found on the news.

there was plenty of evidence for most of these guys you mentioned, the ONLY reason they arnt in prison right now is because of their fame

ps: what more evidence do we need on vick when he confesses to doing it? or did "another convicted criminal" force him to confess?

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that why there is only good people and bad people in my view anyways.
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[QUOTE="eatspie"]


[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.Futien

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children and are now trying to get 2 of the kids in jail for 15 years just for fighting. whats worse is this story is nowhere to be found on the news.

there was plenty of evidence for most of these guys you mentioned, the ONLY reason they arnt in prison right now is because of their fame

ps: what more evidence do we need on vick when he confesses to doing it? or did "another convicted criminal" force him to confess?



lol, lets be real now.

it does matter if he did it or not, he had so many people testifying against him.. the hell is he gonna do?

hell, he could of been innocent.. but he could of pissed off a couple people who'd really like to see him rot.
so, something goes down between the people he pissed off.. and they say, "hey, what great oppertunity to see him in jail, and recieve a lesser sentence for myself"

now, vick could of had nothing to do with it.. but for the simple fact that he has enemies, they're going to try anything
to see him suffer. Even if it means lying.

soo, coupled with many enemies testifying to something he could of not done... he's only forced to confess.. if he didn't, pubically he would look like a fool... and much more a liar, whether he did it or not.


hell, think of it this way. I don't like you and I've conspired a murder amongst vast number of my peers. When I go down, I willsay you took part in it as well, and make sure all my peers do it as well, just to see you rot as well; as wellas ease my sentence in the process. You have nothing to do with the murder, but hell, with the sheer number of people calling you out, you look nothing but guilty.

all I'm saying is the truth is something hard to find these days... and the corrupted masses don't make it any easier to be found. Money courrpts. Power corrupts.

hell, speaking of fame and jail sentence, I bet if you found vick driving without a license, drunk, coccaine in the system, most likely he'd see jailtime. and a lot of it.

however, you got a lil miss lohan doing the same thing and what did she get?

there's someone deff wrong with that picture.
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

airg6
well thats ok considering 90% of serial killers are white and do dumb S*** like eat people and so forth and shoot up innocent people in schools and turn on there own family members, seems like something is bugging you people but you guys dont even know what it is.

Im not racist but I agree that black people judge white people by their race. Also African americans back each other up just cause their the same color. Thats why most black people think OJ is inoccent. By the way where did you come up with the statistic that 90% of white people kill others. If you ask me you kill enough of your own people every day in gang related shootings and killings.

I disagree because not one time have said oh OJ is black and its ok for him to murder people, Im going by what facts were given to me during the trial.
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

airg6
well thats ok considering 90% of serial killers are white and do dumb S*** like eat people and so forth and shoot up innocent people in schools and turn on there own family members, seems like something is bugging you people but you guys dont even know what it is.

Im not racist but I agree that black people judge white people by their race. Also African americans back each other up just cause their the same color. Thats why most black people think OJ is inoccent. By the way where did you come up with the statistic that 90% of white people kill others. If you ask me you kill enough of your own people every day in gang related shootings and killings.

I got those statistics from here.
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how can anyone assume Vick was framed when actual NFL players under hidden identity on ESPN interviewed that Vick was indeed involved in dogfighting. BTW they were black not white. He knew what was going on. This just wasn't a weekend fling at one of his houses, it was a complete operation.

And as for Simpson, he got off by having high salary lawyers and the mysterious glove that didn't fit. I watched that entire trial of the century back in mid-90's and DNA proved blood found in his Bronco and hotel room that was not his. The jury was convinced police botched the investigation with contamination. A prosecuting lawyer who by the way is black called it a complete injustice to the system.

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#74 Dub_c6969
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[QUOTE="eatspie"]


[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.Futien

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children and are now trying to get 2 of the kids in jail for 15 years just for fighting. whats worse is this story is nowhere to be found on the news.

there was plenty of evidence for most of these guys you mentioned, the ONLY reason they arnt in prison right now is because of their fame

ps: what more evidence do we need on vick when he confesses to doing it? or did "another convicted criminal" force him to confess?

Sure thats why paris hilton went to jail.
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how can anyone assume Vick was framed when actual NFL players under hidden identity on ESPN interviewed that Vick was indeed involved in dogfighting. BTW they were black not white. He knew what was going on. This just wasn't a weekend fling at one of his houses, it was a complete operation.

And as for Simpson, he got off by having high salary lawyers and the mysterious glove that didn't fit. I watched that entire trial of the century back in mid-90's and DNA proved blood found in his Bronco and hotel room that was not his. The jury was convinced police botched the investigation with contamination. A prosecuting lawyer who by the way is black called it a complete injustice to the system.

novak2k6
No he got off because none of the evidence pointed back to him i dont think you would get off a murder like that simply because you had a high paid "lawyer".
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Btw can i ask the room on what happen to jessie james when he got caught with all those drugs? do you think he got off because of hes fame?
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="eatspie"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

Dub_c6969

Now this isexcactly what im talking about people pretending the problem isn't there and then pointing the finger at black people. Also you don't know if every member of the black community agrees with me so dont judge us based on one persons opinion. I see the black community as a family when I see one of my family members being wronged I'll step up and support him not just for the fact his that hes black but because hes been wronged and he needs someones support now more than ever. Also "gangsta rap" is a form of music it dosent only apply to blacks.

so you are saying there is nothing wrong with black culture right now? LOOOOOOL.... right.... ok

It kinda seems like you think the white culture is just oh so perfect and do nothing wrong loooool.....right .....ok

yet another example of black people trying to focus on anything but their own problems.... yeah go ahead and try to turn this into a white versus black debate. nowhere in any of my comments will you find anything that says white people are perfect. infact, the other poster was correct, the vast majority of serial murderers are white, and there are many other examples of white people doing bad things.

all i hear out of you is "white people are the reason black people are looked poorly upon" when infact, maybe you should be considering that black peoples actions are the reason why black people are looked poorly upon. If you think blacks are completely innocent in the whole "racism in america" debate, im sorry sir, but you are sadly mistaken.

if black people want to be equal to whites, why do i always hear about this mythical "black brotherhood"? if indeed you are equal and the same in all eyes, then shouldnt it be the brotherhood of humanity, rather than the brotherhood of black people? honestly, your arguments are completely pointless and continue to emphasis the derelict thinking of the majoritytodays black society. everything that bill cosby spoke out about is completely true.

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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="eatspie"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

Roland123_basic

Now this isexcactly what im talking about people pretending the problem isn't there and then pointing the finger at black people. Also you don't know if every member of the black community agrees with me so dont judge us based on one persons opinion. I see the black community as a family when I see one of my family members being wronged I'll step up and support him not just for the fact his that hes black but because hes been wronged and he needs someones support now more than ever. Also "gangsta rap" is a form of music it dosent only apply to blacks.

so you are saying there is nothing wrong with black culture right now? LOOOOOOL.... right.... ok

It kinda seems like you think the white culture is just oh so perfect and do nothing wrong loooool.....right .....ok

yet another example of black people trying to focus on anything but their own problems.... yeah go ahead and try to turn this into a white versus black debate. nowhere in any of my comments will you find anything that says white people are perfect. infact, the other poster was correct, the vast majority of serial murderers are white, and there are many other examples of white people doing bad things.

all i hear out of you is "white people are the reason black people are looked poorly upon" when infact, maybe you should be considering that black peoples actions are the reason why black people are looked poorly upon. If you think blacks are completely innocent in the whole "racism in america" debate, im sorry sir, but you are sadly mistaken.

if black people want to be equal to whites, why do i always hear about this mythical "black brotherhood"? if indeed you are equal and the same in all eyes, then shouldnt it be the brotherhood of humanity, rather than the brotherhood of black people? honestly, your arguments are completely pointless and continue to emphasis the derelict thinking of the majoritytodays black society. everything that bill cosby spoke out about is completely true.

I never said anything about how the black people are looked upon im just letting you know to check your culture too and quit thinking that nothing is wrong with you people nuff said.
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people get too upset about dog fighting, give him a few months in jail at most, but years? bsslayer85

dude he was killing dogs i dont care what anyone says thats sick they have a life just like us

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I understand that people like Mike Vick and that he's not in the game. Why are you a mulitmillionaire and you put yourself in a dumb situation. You could of helped your friends by letting them legitimate businesses. I don't condone dog fighting in any way or either killing dogs in any way. He's not in the game this year and for at least another 2 years. Get some real skills and learn how to play. I used to use him a lot too. White America will try to bring a Black man down in any way, but you shoudn't put yourself in the position for them to let them do it also. I hope that Michael Vick get's another chance to play in the NFL. I would prefer to see him in a Falcons uniform also. I hope that the racism stops and that people stop doing stupid things especially when you do't have to.
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="eatspie"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

wow.... all of the points that have been brought up in this forum are exactly what is wrong with todays black community. we have black people backing black people solely on their color. we have black people saying white people should be punished more harshly. we have black people spreading the paranoia that whitey is out to get them.....

perhaps black people should stop looking outside of their culture for reasons why there are problems with their culture, and start looking inside of their culture for the causes of the problems. i can point out anexample.....all of the "gangsta thugs" that rap to young children about shooting cops, pimping hos, selling drugs, and being in gangs.

Dub_c6969

Now this isexcactly what im talking about people pretending the problem isn't there and then pointing the finger at black people. Also you don't know if every member of the black community agrees with me so dont judge us based on one persons opinion. I see the black community as a family when I see one of my family members being wronged I'll step up and support him not just for the fact his that hes black but because hes been wronged and he needs someones support now more than ever. Also "gangsta rap" is a form of music it dosent only apply to blacks.

so you are saying there is nothing wrong with black culture right now? LOOOOOOL.... right.... ok

It kinda seems like you think the white culture is just oh so perfect and do nothing wrong loooool.....right .....ok

yet another example of black people trying to focus on anything but their own problems.... yeah go ahead and try to turn this into a white versus black debate. nowhere in any of my comments will you find anything that says white people are perfect. infact, the other poster was correct, the vast majority of serial murderers are white, and there are many other examples of white people doing bad things.

all i hear out of you is "white people are the reason black people are looked poorly upon" when infact, maybe you should be considering that black peoples actions are the reason why black people are looked poorly upon. If you think blacks are completely innocent in the whole "racism in america" debate, im sorry sir, but you are sadly mistaken.

if black people want to be equal to whites, why do i always hear about this mythical "black brotherhood"? if indeed you are equal and the same in all eyes, then shouldnt it be the brotherhood of humanity, rather than the brotherhood of black people? honestly, your arguments are completely pointless and continue to emphasis the derelict thinking of the majoritytodays black society. everything that bill cosby spoke out about is completely true.

I never said anything about how the black people are looked upon im just letting you know to check your culture too and quit thinking that nothing is wrong with you people nuff said.

Look all he was saying was everyone has problems and that the african american culture thinks theres nothing wrong with blaming the whites instead of themselves for there wrong doing. Also I find it hard to belive that 90% of serial killers are white. Im sure the majority of cerial killers are white, but 90% thats a little over board.
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#83 airg6
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I understand that people like Mike Vick and that he's not in the game. Why are you a mulitmillionaire and you put yourself in a dumb situation. You could of helped your friends by letting them legitimate businesses. I don't condone dog fighting in any way or either killing dogs in any way. He's not in the game this year and for at least another 2 years. Get some real skills and learn how to play. I used to use him a lot too. White America will try to bring a Black man down in any way, but you shoudn't put yourself in the position for them to let them do it also. I hope that Michael Vick get's another chance to play in the NFL. I would prefer to see him in a Falcons uniform also. I hope that the racism stops and that people stop doing stupid things especially when you do't have to.TyBrown007
Oh get over yourself. If us white folk were still out to get you there would still be slavery.

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Look, Vick was GUILTY, he admitted it, he also APOLOGIZED for it, why would you admit and then apologize for something you didnt do?? They held dogfighting matches at his fricken house, how could he not have known about that??? Believing things like he was framed or some people he pissed off want to see him in jail is just being dumb.

As for OJ, he was also GUILTY, want to see the evidence against him??? Well here it is:

1. The 9-1-1 call and the history of Simpson's violence directed at Nicole Brown.

2. Hair evidence: (1) hairs consistent with that of Simpson found on cap at Bundy residence, (2) hairs consistent with that of Simpson found on Ron Goldman's shirt.

3. Fiber evidence: (1) cotton fibers consistent with the carpet in the Bronco found on glove at Rockingham, (2) fibers consistent with the carpet from the Bronco found on cap at Bundy residence.

4. Blood evidence: (1) killer dropped blood near shoe prints at Bundy, (2) blood dropped at Bundy was of same type as Simpson's (about 0.5% of population would match), (3) Simpson had fresh cuts on left hand on day after murder, (4) blood found in Bronco, (5) blood found in foyer and master bedroom of Simpson home, (5) blood found on Simpson's driveway.

5. Glove evidence: (1) left glove found at Bundy and right glove found at Simpson residence are Aris Light gloves, size XL, (2) Nicole Brown bought pair of Aris Light XL gloves in 1990 at Bloomingdale's, (3) Simpson wore Aris Light gloves from 1990 to June, 1994.

6. Shoe evidence: (1) shoe prints found at Bundy were from a size 12 Bruno Magli shoe, (2) bloody shoe impression on Bronco carpet is consistent with a Magli shoe, (3) Simpson wore a size 12 shoe.

7. Other evidence: (1) flight in Bronco, (2) strange reaction to phone call informing him of Nicole Brown's death, etc.

8. Subsequent to the trial, Simpson has devoted no real effort to tracking down the "real killer," nor has any significant evidence surfaced suggesting that the killer was anyone other than Simpson.

9. The jury was not allowed to hear testimony concerning Simpson's rumored jailhouse confession to Rosie Grier.

10. Subsequent to the criminal trial other evidence of Simpson's guilt surfaced. The most significant of the new evidence may have been photographs of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli shoes. The new evidence, together with much of the evidence considered in the criminal trial, convinced a civil jury that Simpson murdered Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.

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Look, Vick was GUILTY, he admitted it, he also APOLOGIZED for it, why would you admit and then apologize for something you didnt do?? They held dogfighting matches at his fricken house, how could he not have known about that??? Believing things like he was framed or some people he pissed off want to see him in jail is just being dumb.

As for OJ, he was also GUILTY, want to see the evidence against him??? Well here it is:

1. The 9-1-1 call and the history of Simpson's violence directed at Nicole Brown.

2. Hair evidence: (1) hairs consistent with that of Simpson found on cap at Bundy residence, (2) hairs consistent with that of Simpson found on Ron Goldman's shirt.

3. Fiber evidence: (1) cotton fibers consistent with the carpet in the Bronco found on glove at Rockingham, (2) fibers consistent with the carpet from the Bronco found on cap at Bundy residence.

4. Blood evidence: (1) killer dropped blood near shoe prints at Bundy, (2) blood dropped at Bundy was of same type as Simpson's (about 0.5% of population would match), (3) Simpson had fresh cuts on left hand on day after murder, (4) blood found in Bronco, (5) blood found in foyer and master bedroom of Simpson home, (5) blood found on Simpson's driveway.

5. Glove evidence: (1) left glove found at Bundy and right glove found at Simpson residence are Aris Light gloves, size XL, (2) Nicole Brown bought pair of Aris Light XL gloves in 1990 at Bloomingdale's, (3) Simpson wore Aris Light gloves from 1990 to June, 1994.

6. Shoe evidence: (1) shoe prints found at Bundy were from a size 12 Bruno Magli shoe, (2) bloody shoe impression on Bronco carpet is consistent with a Magli shoe, (3) Simpson wore a size 12 shoe.

7. Other evidence: (1) flight in Bronco, (2) strange reaction to phone call informing him of Nicole Brown's death, etc.

8. Subsequent to the trial, Simpson has devoted no real effort to tracking down the "real killer," nor has any significant evidence surfaced suggesting that the killer was anyone other than Simpson.

9. The jury was not allowed to hear testimony concerning Simpson's rumored jailhouse confession to Rosie Grier.

10. Subsequent to the criminal trial other evidence of Simpson's guilt surfaced. The most significant of the new evidence may have been photographs of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli shoes. The new evidence, together with much of the evidence considered in the criminal trial, convinced a civil jury that Simpson murdered Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.

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You're leaving out the fact that their was a racist cop named Mark Fuhrman who lied under oath saying that he "never used the N word." (litte as he knew a news reporter had him on audio using the"N" word several times)It's well known that he planted several pieces of evidence and contaminated the crime scene. All FACTS..which is why OJ was acquitted. Although it's pretty obvious OJ was guitly..those racist cops should've let the REAL evidence speak for itself besides planting stuff causing even more confusion to an already twisted case!
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#86 caleb5050
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dat sucks lol i like saying"vickitized" when i play with vick
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#87 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="eatspie"]


[QUOTE="hellshemi"]He deserves to be put in a pit with some of the dogs he used.Dub_c6969

Vick was obviously framed. They had no evidence against him other than a testimony from another convicted criminal who was given less jail time if he said Vick did it. America is a very racist place cops see a black man with money alot of money and they'll do everything in their power to put him in jail and ruin his reputation just look at some of the past cases: Oj simpson, Rkelly, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jackson. Theese are all very rich black man that the police are constatly trying to ruin the lifes of. Infact in louisiana a fight broke out between white and black kids after the white kids hung nueces on a tree reserved only for white students. The police arrested only the black children

Yea some of that is true but they put themselves in that situation Know one told Kobe Bryant to sleep with that girl Know one told MJ to have boys at his house and so forth, look at Oprah and Robert Johnson these are the some of the richest African American's and they stay out of trouble because they dont put them self's in stupid situations.

BTW im a African American and some of what you said is true but just because you are rich, I dont think America just wants to put you in jail because your black if that was the case alot of rappers and movie stars would be in jail but a majority of them are not as stupid as you think etc.. 50 Cent.

It still don't understand the term African American.... firstly it isn't correct unless you were born in Africa and then moved to the U.S. Really that is like calling me a German American because the great great great great great great (x i don't know how many) came from Germany. If you were born in the U.S. then you American......

Honestly you may be black, but how many black people do you know that have actually went to Africa? My guess it is around the same amount of white people that go there......

To be one topic though... While i understand that you may think that many cops are racists (and i don't doubt there are cops out there that are racist) you also have to understand that there are rich black people out there, but they arn't celebrities. I mean Bill Gates is a rich white man but isn't on the cover of magazines. You may say that is because he is white... have you ever though it is because while he makes mistakes he doesn't make stupid decisions like hey lets have illegal dog-fights or invite 10 year old boys to my house and then touch them.... IF he did those things he would either be going to court or jail (reason i say court is because hell if Michael Jackson can stay out of jail for the most part (don't know if he has been in jail or not) then Bill Gates could).

Now another large reason you see a lot of celebrity status black people on the news is because guess what... it creates controversy. How many times have you seen in the news that an American has died in Iraq? A ton... now how many times have you seen Iraq civiliansdied in Iraq? A few but compared to the American deaths it isn't many and i bet you there is way more Iraq civilians that have died than America troops. The reason the American troops get in the news is because people care more about them and respond more with their deaths.

Think about this... why would you buy a magazine or read a news article? Perhaps because it interests you... well guess what a lot of people would rather read about all these bad things happening to people than Oprah being nice to her fans.

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#88 ziggy87
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yea what a jerk

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He's no longer a NFL player and does not belong in Madden or anywhere near Football-related media. BTW, if anyone plays the race card, they're getting a roundhouse kick to the face.
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this guy is obviously smarter than everybody else in here, haha, ya'll got uberpwned
Can't you just make a custom player with his stats?ModernTimes
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It still don't understand the term African American.... firstly it isn't correct unless you were born in Africa and then moved to the U.S. Really that is like calling me a German American because the great great great great great great (x i don't know how many) came from Germany. If you were born in the U.S. then you American......

Honestly you may be black, but how many black people do you know that have actually went to Africa? My guess it is around the same amount of white people that go there......

To be one topic though... While i understand that you may think that many cops are racists (and i don't doubt there are cops out there that are racist) you also have to understand that there are rich black people out there, but they arn't celebrities. I mean Bill Gates is a rich white man but isn't on the cover of magazines. You may say that is because he is white... have you ever though it is because while he makes mistakes he doesn't make stupid decisions like hey lets have illegal dog-fights or invite 10 year old boys to my house and then touch them.... IF he did those things he would either be going to court or jail (reason i say court is because hell if Michael Jackson can stay out of jail for the most part (don't know if he has been in jail or not) then Bill Gates could).

Now another large reason you see a lot of celebrity status black people on the news is because guess what... it creates controversy. How many times have you seen in the news that an American has died in Iraq? A ton... now how many times have you seen Iraq civiliansdied in Iraq? A few but compared to the American deaths it isn't many and i bet you there is way more Iraq civilians that have died than America troops. The reason the American troops get in the news is because people care more about them and respond more with their deaths.

Think about this... why would you buy a magazine or read a news article? Perhaps because it interests you... well guess what a lot of people would rather read about all these bad things happening to people than Oprah being nice to her fans.

Seems like some one failed history ****..we are not really called BLACK people anyone born from a african decent born in america is a african american just like how white people are really anglo american....get over self and go back to school and learn about your culture lol. German American lol wow seems like i know more about your culture then you do.

BTW i think your "culture" is just to ignorant to see that we deserve to be called african americans and not just "black" people but that would be asking to much now would it.

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#92 Dub_c6969
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bump lol.
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by insisting that you be called african american, you are segregating yourself, so you have nobody to blame for it but yourself. if you truly wanted to be equal instead of just stand out... you would want to simply be called an american, like you ARE.

my family is from Ireland... but i am not Irish American... i was born in america, i am american. have you even been to africa? i didnt think so.

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#94 eatspie
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:D this ishillarious one little post about race and everyone thinks itsa race war people can't you just accept the fact I have a different oponion than all of you and leave it that instead of making a 5 page argument about it.

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#95 eatspie
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by insisting that you be called african american, you are segregating yourself, so you have nobody to blame for it but yourself. if you truly wanted to be equal instead of just stand out... you would want to simply be called an american, like you ARE.

my family is from Ireland... but i am not Irish American... i was born in america, i am american. have you even been to africa? i didnt think so.

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what I shouldnt be proud of my african heritage my ancestors were dragged away from?

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by insisting that you be called african american, you are segregating yourself, so you have nobody to blame for it but yourself. if you truly wanted to be equal instead of just stand out... you would want to simply be called an american, like you ARE.

my family is from Ireland... but i am not Irish American... i was born in america, i am american. have you even been to africa? i didnt think so.

Roland123_basic

Actually i have been to Africa and its not really a nice place but my people are from there and yes i would like to be called a African American instead of just American there is nothing wrong with that i dont see it in my mind that i am segregating my self by putting "African" in front of where i was born from, didn't you learn anything in history class or you failed that too.

BTW with the way bush is handling things other countries look down on American's anyway so i dont really take pride in just being called an American because i dont agree with anything he does or how he represents us.

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#97 Roland123_basic
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

by insisting that you be called african american, you are segregating yourself, so you have nobody to blame for it but yourself. if you truly wanted to be equal instead of just stand out... you would want to simply be called an american, like you ARE.

my family is from Ireland... but i am not Irish American... i was born in america, i am american. have you even been to africa? i didnt think so.

Dub_c6969

Actually i have been to Africa and its not really a nice place but my people are from there and yes i would like to be called a African American instead of just American there is nothing wrong with that i dont see it in my mind that i am segregating my self by putting "African" in front of where i was born from, didn't you learn anything in history class or you failed that too.

wow... so now you are saying all white people fail history class? woooooow....

that is sarcasm by the way, and an example of how absurd your attitude is.

and by the way, it doesnt matter how you see things to be honest.... did you fail sociology?

societies perspective is how things are seen, and by the black community requiring that they be called african american they are segregating themselves from everyone else. people from mexico do not call themselves mexican american or latino american, white people dont call themselves european americans.... why is it that black people seem to think they need to be called african american? what is wrong with simply being known as an american? it is simply to allow themselves to stand out from everyone else, and is self segregation.

you want to talk about heritage? you are just as americanized as i am. so is your family tree 10 generations back. your ancestors havent been from africa for over 200 years if you truly have ancestors that were brought over the ocean as slaves. your heritage IS america, just like everyone else who has a family history invested in his nation. you should be proud that you are here in a nation where you can be safe in your bed at night instead of in africa where your ANCESTORS are shooting eachother in the street.

dont lecture me on failing history, i garauntee im more informed on the history of THIS nation (good and bad) and know more about my own heritage than someone that seems to despise it so much.

all i read in your statements are hate and misunderstanding. your distrust of "white society" is to be considered racism just like what you seem to think "white society" is doing to the black community.

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HOLLYCRAP I CANNOT BELIEVE IS NOT BUTTER :shock:
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

by insisting that you be called african american, you are segregating yourself, so you have nobody to blame for it but yourself. if you truly wanted to be equal instead of just stand out... you would want to simply be called an american, like you ARE.

my family is from Ireland... but i am not Irish American... i was born in america, i am american. have you even been to africa? i didnt think so.

Roland123_basic

Actually i have been to Africa and its not really a nice place but my people are from there and yes i would like to be called a African American instead of just American there is nothing wrong with that i dont see it in my mind that i am segregating my self by putting "African" in front of where i was born from, didn't you learn anything in history class or you failed that too.

wow... so now you are saying all white people fail history class? woooooow....

that is sarcasm by the way, and an example of how absurd your attitude is.

and by the way, it doesnt matter how you see things to be honest.... did you fail sociology?

societies perspective is how things are seen, and by the black community requiring that they be called african american they are segregating themselves from everyone else. people from mexico do not call themselves mexican american or latino american, white people dont call themselves european americans.... why is it that black people seem to think they need to be called african american? what is wrong with simply being known as an american? it is simply to allow themselves to stand out from everyone else, and is self segregation.

you want to talk about heritage? you are just as americanized as i am. so is your family tree 10 generations back. your ancestors havent been from africa for over 200 years if you truly have ancestors that were brought over the ocean as slaves. your heritage IS america, just like everyone else who has a family history invested in his nation. you should be proud that you are here in a nation where you can be safe in your bed at night instead of in africa where your ANCESTORS are shooting eachother in the street.

dont lecture me on failing history, i garauntee im more informed on the history of THIS nation (good and bad) and know more about my own heritage than someone that seems to despise it so much.

all i read in your statements are hate and misunderstanding. your distrust of "white society" is to be considered racism just like what you seem to think "white society" is doing to the black community.

Look i dont really care about all that other stuff you type about but i dindt say anything about how i hate white people, i could really care less about what your people think of us its just that you think we are in the wrong but its really you guys allot of my black friend i know have no problem with you guys but when we get on xbox live its like your "culture" just attacks us cause we sound "different" keyword Different, then we just look at each other and say what did we do.

There are some sane black people out there but you all think we are "gangtas" and thats what i get sick of hearing all the time, how about you quit focusing on us and focus on your culture ....like the president.