Microsoft reaches a new low

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="vashkey"] How was it immature at all? Please, explain. Do you even understand definition? vashkey

I wasn't complainingg about the option to buy this stuff. I was complaining about the prices. How is complaining about the price immature? How is having an opinion immature? I never said Microsoft was forcing anyone to buy anything. I never said it was necesarry to buy these things. I was simply saying that the prices were too steep.

You're the one talking about spinning things to look bad and yet your the one here saying I'm such a terrible person to want to express my opinion on the pricing of a product. Sheesh, people.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] Legitimate opinions? I don't know, maybe it's just me or something, but the person was complaining about something that doesn't affect him at all. He doesn't have to buy these things. MS isn't saying, "Hey you, listen here. If you want to continue playing on that 360 you got there, you have to purchase 3 articles of clothing and then you may proceed with the gaming. Otherwise, you're screwed." It's pathetic that people complain about MS being so terrible, when they are just offering something OPTIONAL for people who are INTERESTED. It's like someone complaining that EA came out with a Madden game, who has no interest in football or Madden. It's dumb, and it is indeed pathetic. Or immature, whichever way you want to turn it. An opinion is one thing, complaining about something that doesn't affect you, or anyone else in the world in a negative way is just plain stupid. But go ahead, try to spin it some way to make me look wrong. It's a'ight. An opinion is just an opinion right? Lol.Unassigned

I wasn't complainingg about the option to buy this stuff. I was complaining about the prices. How is complaining about the price immature? How is having an opinion immature? I never said Microsoft was forcing anyone to buy anything. I never said it was necesarry to buy these things. I was simply saying that the prices were too steep.

You're the one talking about spinning things to look bad and yet your the one here saying I'm such a terrible person to want to express my opinion on the pricing of a product. Sheesh, people.

[QUOTE="Unassigned"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

I wasn't complainingg about the option to buy this stuff. I was complaining about the prices. How is complaining about the price immature? How is having an opinion immature? I never said Microsoft was forcing anyone to buy anything. I never said it was necesarry to buy these things. I was simply saying that the prices were too steep.

You're the one talking about spinning things to look bad and yet your the one here saying I'm such a terrible person to want to express my opinion on the pricing of a product. Sheesh, people.

vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] What is immature is you're slamming microsoft (see your topic) for something you have the choice to either purchase or not. Now THAT'S immature. We're not slamming you for expressing your opinion, we're slamming you for the manner of which you choose to express your opinion, ie: you blame Microsoft for their pricing. I can't afford to by a Bentley but does that mean I slam the car maker for their pricing? I didn't think so.Unassigned

Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

Unassigned

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] This is my topic, so no, I'm not the one trolling making worthless posts like "don't buy it".vashkey

Worthless? It's a perfectly valid reply because it's a perfectly reasonable option.

What exactly are you expecting in response? Only for people to agree with you? For people to gather with pitchforks and torches at the doors of Microsoft offices in Redmond? They're not even disagreeing with you. They're just providing one of two possible outcomes: Buy or don't buy.

Why does that reply bother you so much? Is it the tone? Did they hurt your feelings?

Or are you so surprised that we don't share you outrage that you know what to do now? It's simple really. Leave some people to buy what they want. Leave others opt not to. We agree to disagree and move on.

You fully understand what your choices are.

So... basically, you just wanted to rant and now you want us to talk about our feelings?

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] What is immature is you're slamming microsoft (see your topic) for something you have the choice to either purchase or not. Now THAT'S immature. We're not slamming you for expressing your opinion, we're slamming you for the manner of which you choose to express your opinion, ie: you blame Microsoft for their pricing. I can't afford to by a Bentley but does that mean I slam the car maker for their pricing? I didn't think so.Unassigned

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Worthless? It's a perfectly valid reply because it's a perfectly reasonable option.

What exactly are you expecting in response? Only for people to agree with you? For people to gather with pitchforks and torches at the doors of Microsoft offices in Redmond? They're not even disagreeing with you. They're just providing one of two possible outcomes: Buy or don't buy.

Why does that reply bother you so much? Is it the tone? Did they hurt your feelings?

Or are you so surprised that we don't share you outrage that you know what to do now? It's simple really. Leave some people to buy what they want. Leave others opt not to. We agree to disagree and move on.

VoodooHak

You fully understand what your choices are.

So... basically, you just wanted to rant and now you want us to talk about our feelings?

How is that immature? This is just hilarious. I don't believe for a second you understand the meaning of the word now. Maybe I wouldn't be "slamming" Microsoft if I didn't know they could afford to sell this stuff for cheaper. Theres no way in hell that making this stuff is so expensive that they need to price it so high. vashkey

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

Unassigned

I sound ridiculous. I'm not calling people immature for saying they think something is over priced. And I'm not telling someone who bought x-box live, an xbox 360 system, games and DLC that they're too cheap to buy anything. For future reference remember that just because someone has a different opinion that you doesnt magically make the immature.

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR OPINION!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO WRITE THAT. IT'S THAT YOU SLAM MICROSOFT FOR THE PRICEPOINT THEY'VE CHOSEN (READ YOUR TOPIC). IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT OR FEEL IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE THAN SAY JUST THAT. DON'T SAY THAT "MICROSOFT HAS REACHED A NEW LOW".

His OPINION is that Microsoft has reached a new low. How is that hard to comprehend?

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

CNUrGames

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

[QUOTE="Unassigned"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

I sound ridiculous. I'm not calling people immature for saying they think something is over priced. And I'm not telling someone who bought x-box live, an xbox 360 system, games and DLC that they're too cheap to buy anything. For future reference remember that just because someone has a different opinion that you doesnt magically make the immature. CNUrGames

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR OPINION!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO WRITE THAT. IT'S THAT YOU SLAM MICROSOFT FOR THE PRICEPOINT THEY'VE CHOSEN (READ YOUR TOPIC). IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT OR FEEL IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE THAN SAY JUST THAT. DON'T SAY THAT "MICROSOFT HAS REACHED A NEW LOW".

His OPINION is that Microsoft has reached a new low. How is that hard to comprehend?

[QUOTE="Unassigned"][QUOTE="CNUrGames"]

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

vashkey

[QUOTE="CNUrGames"]

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

konradak

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Ok, now you're making yourself out to look ridiculous as well as immature (ie: child like). Just giveup your lame attempt to remove yourself from the hole you dug yourself into and just move onto something else. Also, in the future if you don't like the pricepoint of an item don't slam the seller, just move on.

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

I think the items are pricey because I don't think it takes as much time to make a shirt or lightsaber as it does to make a full game and they're still the same price

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] Bottom line, the OP is slamming Microsoft ("Microsoft reaches a new low") for selling items at a certain price. As I stated, we love opinions but he doesn't need to be childish and say the company has reached a new low just because he chooses not to purchase what they're offering.Unassigned

I find the prices horrible, nothing in the avatar shop interests me. But the games on demand prices are worse, some of the games are at their right prices, but 30 dollars for COD2, i paid 10 dollars new for the game a year ago.

[QUOTE="Unassigned"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] So I'm childish because I didn't put up a topic that didn't give you the warm fuzzies about Microsoft, is that it? I'm sorry. Next time I express how I feel something has been priced poorly by Microsoft the topic title will be "Microsoft is the best company ever". Is that "mature" enough for you?vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] We don't care about "warm fuzzy's" we just don't appreciate others slamming companies for things they choose to buy or not. I could give a rat's azz if you think something is too expensive or not, just don't blame the seller for offering the items for their set price. You don't want it? Don't buy it. Answer us this one question: How has Microsoft reached this new low you speak of?

Unassigned

Theres nothing I need to jusify, I shared my opinion. It is what is is, deal with it.

lol, I remember some Microsoft fanboys making fun of Home because the price for the cloths are too expensive xD Funny how times change xD Anyway, I personally think that about everything we get from XBL (and PSN) is more expensive than it is worth and as long as it works, they will go on like this :S I'm not surprised by the prices, but I think it's kinda sad :S

As in, I'd like to hear what you guys think about the prices? Yes. I didn't come here expecting people to just come in, say "you don't have to buy it" and think thats actually contributing. I though forums were for discussion, not stating obvious facts.vashkey

I thought the concept of value was just as transparent as your.

In other words, the reasons are irrelevant because everyone's definitin of value is different. I thought that was a fairly obvious fact as well.

[QUOTE="CNUrGames"]

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] So I'm childish because I didn't put up a topic that didn't give you the warm fuzzies about Microsoft, is that it? I'm sorry. Next time I express how I feel something has been priced poorly by Microsoft the topic title will be "Microsoft is the best company ever". Is that "mature" enough for you?vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"] As in, I'd like to hear what you guys think about the prices? Yes. I didn't come here expecting people to just come in, say "you don't have to buy it" and think thats actually contributing. I though forums were for discussion, not stating obvious facts.VoodooHak

I thought the concept of value was just as transparent as your.

In other words, the reasons are irrelevant because everyone's definitin of value is different. I thought that was a fairly obvious fact as well.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] We don't care about "warm fuzzy's" we just don't appreciate others slamming companies for things they choose to buy or not. I could give a rat's azz if you think something is too expensive or not, just don't blame the seller for offering the items for their set price. You don't want it? Don't buy it. Answer us this one question: How has Microsoft reached this new low you speak of?

Unassigned

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="CNUrGames"]

Honestly though, if you don't like someone's opinion about a company or their pricing, dont' slam the person with the opinion, just move on.

CNUrGames

I think the items are pricey because I don't think it takes as much time to make a shirt or lightsaber as it does to make a full game and they're still the same price

You honestly believe that? Fair enough. I just can't agree, seeing as how he doesn't even ask us if we agree or not, instead he just rants on about how MS is at an all new "low" for optional items that don't cost you a thing if you so choose so, and doesn't alienate you or anything. I just see ranting, and then defending it by playing the opinion card when he doesn't like what people say about his whining. But please, correct me if I'm wrong. Also, trying to increase my post count? I could hardly care. Lol wow.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="CNUrGames"] We don't care about "warm fuzzy's" we just don't appreciate others slamming companies for things they choose to buy or not. I could give a rat's azz if you think something is too expensive or not, just don't blame the seller for offering the items for their set price. You don't want it? Don't buy it. Answer us this one question: How has Microsoft reached this new low you speak of?

konradak

[QUOTE="Unassigned"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Oh, so then who am I suppose to blame? It's microsoft's content on Microsoft's service. Who am I to blame other than Microsoft? And reaching the new low? by selling something for a price that far exceeds it's value. When you read the OP, did you by chance think of what each word meant while you read it? chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Oh, so then who am I suppose to blame? It's microsoft's content on Microsoft's service. Who am I to blame other than Microsoft? And reaching the new low? by selling something for a price that far exceeds it's value. When you read the OP, did you by chance think of what each word meant while you read it? vashkey

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] Nice try but you just can't justify slamming Microsoft for choosing their pricepoint. There's no reason to "blame" them, It is what it is, deal with it.

konradak

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Oh, so then who am I suppose to blame? It's microsoft's content on Microsoft's service. Who am I to blame other than Microsoft? And reaching the new low? by selling something for a price that far exceeds it's value. When you read the OP, did you by chance think of what each word meant while you read it? vashkey

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Unassigned"] Nice try but you just can't justify slamming Microsoft for choosing their pricepoint. There's no reason to "blame" them, It is what it is, deal with it.

konradak

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] How about you blame all the customers who bought a 360, including yourself, to allow MS to do this in the first place? There's the root of the problem, blame that. Selling something for a price that far exceeds its value? You realize now that you just put everybody's opinion to be the same as your own? People find value in different things, at different levels. Do I find the 400MP COG uniform a 400MP value? No. Would I find a 400MP Penny Arcade Fruit F'er accessory doll a value? Yes. Value is different for everybody, and saying that these items far exceed its value is just taking everyone's opinion and making it the same as yours. If it far exceeds your values, then why do you care? Why even post about it if you don't care about it? I just don't get how MS has reached an all new "low" for this. This is so minor. It's amazing really.konradak

Also, buying a gaming system allows MS to make these "low" life prices. So you're as much to blame as say, me, or him, or her, or MS. You allowed them to do this. I think you my friend, have reached an all new low, with the rest of the 360 community. :Okonradak

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] yeh you can, because if you actually read what i wrote, its way about the equilibrium price. they are a monopoly and are abusing their power as suchchaoscougar1

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] yeh you can, because if you actually read what i wrote, its way about the equilibrium price. they are a monopoly and are abusing their power as suchvashkey

it depends, is it a apple that if i take a bite of it, it will transport me to the land of topless women.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] Abusing their power by not making you purchase things that, if you deem so, are too expensive? Yea, you're right. Total abuse of their power.SlayWayMore

it depends, is it a apple that if i take a bite of it, it will transport me to the land of topless women.

[QUOTE="SlayWayMore"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] If I was selling an apple for two hundred dollars, would you think that it's a fair price since you don't have to buy it? Do you honestly think that people can't talk about it since it's an optional purchase?

vashkey

it depends, is it a apple that if i take a bite of it, it will transport me to the land of topless women.

if we can find such a thing, i will let you have it.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] Abusing their power by not making you purchase things that, if you deem so, are too expensive? Yea, you're right. Total abuse of their power.konradak

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="SlayWayMore"]

it depends, is it a apple that if i take a bite of it, it will transport me to the land of topless women.

SlayWayMore

if we can find such a thing, i will let you have it.

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

You did. By buying their product, the games and the DLC or anything else on Live, you've shown em that you are willing to pay for their products. Simple as that. That lead them to the decision of putting avatar clothing on Live. If only a handful of people would've bought a 360 and MS didn't see the potential marketing in the 360, it wouldn't of happened. You helped shape the decision.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="vashkey"] No. Simply buying a game system doesn't magically mean that something on it will will have a certain price. I shouldn't have to explain every time I say something is my opinion. And I think we all know value is subjective. But I can garentee you that alot of people also feel the content is over priced. The idea of a virtual object you can't even really use for anything other than playing dress up being equal in value to an entire game is pretty ridiculous.

vashkey

Really? read above.

By the by, my comment about increasing post count wasn't in relation to you. It was all of the people that came into this thread and I'm sure without even putting a though into it, robotically typed "don't buy it" and then hit submit and left the thread. I'm not slamming any person, just expressing a point of view here.CNUrGames

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="konradak"] Also, buying a gaming system allows MS to make these "low" life prices. So you're as much to blame as say, me, or him, or her, or MS. You allowed them to do this. I think you my friend, have reached an all new low, with the rest of the 360 community. :Okonradak

Really? read above.

[QUOTE="konradak"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] yeh you can, because if you actually read what i wrote, its way about the equilibrium price. they are a monopoly and are abusing their power as suchvashkey

[QUOTE="SlayWayMore"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] I can has one?vashkey

if we can find such a thing, i will let you have it.

0_0 its AMAZING

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] Abusing their power by not making you purchase things that, if you deem so, are too expensive? Yea, you're right. Total abuse of their power.konradak

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="konradak"] Abusing their power by not making you purchase things that, if you deem so, are too expensive? Yea, you're right. Total abuse of their power.konradak