Microsoft reversing their restrictions!!!

As happy as I am to see they listened to us. I just don't feel like I want the system still, and I won't buy it. Not because of everything that happened, but because it just doesn't look like it will entertain me. I want a gaming system, not a entertainment hub. So basically.....

Xbox One with restrictions = rape without a condom

Xbox One without restrictions = rape with a condom

Create a fake DRM problem/policy and then fix it like a hero in the nick of time! It gives the illusion of progress but in truth, any bullsh!t that MS managed to get away with on the 360 will carry over, unaddressed to the Xbox One.

"What if the DRM policy was Real? " well then, should you trust a company that changes policies whenever it damn well feels like it ? Theres no reason to be own an Xbox One anymore than there is to own the 360.

So people got pissed because of MS bullsh*t policies, then MS decides to please the community and listen to them and change all their restrictions and people are still not satisfied??? I just don't get this, what else do you want?? Ohhh I'm not gonna forgive MS for what they've done, lmaoo and who the F are you, I guarantee regardless of all this whinning you're still gonna stand in line day 1 and buy the X1, my god people make a big deal out of nothing, you really can never please everybody.xFL4WL3SSx

You don't understand what was happening? :roll:

Its nice that people are so easily fooled. The truth is it was a 2 step Con.

Create a fake DRM problem/policy and then fix it like a hero in the nick of time! It gives the illusion of progress but in truth, any bullsh!t that MS managed to get away with on the 360 will carry over, unaddressed to the Xbox One.

"What if the DRM policy was Real? " well then, should you trust a company that changes policies whenever it damn well feels like it ? Theres no reason to be own an Xbox One anymore than there is to own the 360.

Lulekani

Two steps in the right direction - now sell me a version without Kinect for $400 and we've got a deal. 

Vari3ty

I feel the same way.

I would love to buy the Xbox One, and I am very happy to hear that Microsoft has finally come to their senses regarding the DRM policies, but the Kinect is still a deal breaker for me, so until they remove it from the console, I will not purchase one.

I worry that fewer people are as upset about the Kinect as there were about the DRM issues, so I doubt we will see a Kinect-free version of the Xbox One anytime soon. :(

I would love to be wrong about that, though.

[QUOTE="Mickeyminime"]for me, i'm 100& solid on PS4 now, but will decide whether or not to get X1, if i do, it will prob be a while, i for one will not forgive MS for what they did and if they can just take it all off, what if they put it all back on?. Not that they would of course, but i no longer trust MS, but thats just mexhawk27

Yeah but what happens if Sony puts in DRM. Let me guess Sony are the Saints of gaming they would never do that. Please grow up. 

what if they change there mind a year down the road  :cry:

djdarkforces

I am fine with Kinect actually. It is the only way to have developers getting onboard with unified control system. Add-on never works. Motion controlled TV is the future. There is no doubt about it. I actually think Kinect 3.0 needs to be part of the TV itself, otherwise other manufactures will just build-in their own version of Kinect. Hate it or not, all smart TV will have motion sensor one way or another, the only difference is, it is not a MS product and it is likely have much more security loopholes than the big M.magicalclick

Why does motion have to be the future? I still don't see what is so difficult about using a remote - just hit a button or two, the channel is switched, volume adjusted, whatever... it works just fine. 

[QUOTE="Lulekani"]Its nice that people are so easily fooled. The truth is it was a 2 step Con.

Create a fake DRM problem/policy and then fix it like a hero in the nick of time! It gives the illusion of progress but in truth, any bullsh!t that MS managed to get away with on the 360 will carry over, unaddressed to the Xbox One.

"What if the DRM policy was Real? " well then, should you trust a company that changes policies whenever it damn well feels like it ? Theres no reason to be own an Xbox One anymore than there is to own the 360.

firefox59

Im pleased they finally got it right.. I was starting to dislike these muppets in their suits

Great news from MS.  I'm taking complete and full credit for this reversal :D.  I now plan to keep my pre-order for XBOX one in place.  I knew that they had to reverse this and yes we have Sony to thank at least a little bit.  We need two horses in this race...

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Since you pity me, please enlighten me on the negative changes.

dominer

Microsoft's policies were going to revolutionize digital content and rights.

The whole "well digital content is different" argument would have been thrown out because as this grew people would have the same control over their digital content as their physical content.

Know how you buy a digital game but it's stuck forever? With Microsoft's system you could resell it. That in turn brings value to digital only games. There's not a feeling that when you buy a digital game it's an anchor on your account.

Sharing games with up to ten people, instead of someone buying 4 games for themselves and their kids you bought one title and shared it.

We're back to the old backwards system when it comes to retail and digital.

Consumer rights were going to be expanded, now it's back to the old close minded ways that inherently punish consumers

I can understand some people liking that. But me, and I'm pretty sure many other gamers, don't care about digital games on their consoles from M$ especially. I've never had a digital game and probably never will outside XBLA games of course.

I don't get sharing your point. You saying you would rather be able to share games with a limited amount of people online and be restricted beyond that than buying a disc an doing whatever with whoever?  

XBLA games are digital and the Xbox One doesn't differentiate between arcade, indie, big budget games, they're all just games.

The old plan allowed users to have full control over all the games they own. It gave users more power over what they owned. You can buy, lend, and sell all of your games, nothing was locked to you forever if you didn't want it to be.

As for the game sharing? There's no doubt that the ability to share your game with someone and play it at the same time is far and away better than having one copy that needs to be passed around and only played by one person at a time. If you have two gamers in the house you buy one copy of a game and both people can play it at the same time. A family with three kids can do that. Or you and a friend (you trust) can do the same.

Too little too late. They didnt care at all about the outcry a month ago but now that they see its costing them hard cash in terms of preorder numbers they wanna get in our good graces. Microsoft just told us a week ago that if we dont want 24hr check ins the 360 is for us. So forget them and their smug arrogance. They basically told us tough poo a week ago and are now saying oops. Maybe they should be asking us to forgive them and apologizing and not putting out some garbage "thanking us" You needed E3 and millions of rants to tell you DRM and online checks were a bad idea. THe 300 people that bought bionic commando 3years ago would tell you how terrible drm is let alone what happened with simcity just this year!captainzornan

Well to be fair, the minute I gave up on Sony was when they Kaz stated that it didn't matter if the PS3 released with any games or not, kids would still mow lawns all summer long to buy it on launch day just because it had the Playstation brand name. Just saying, the compitition isn't any less arrogant. It just so happens that MS is now in the limelight showing their arrogance with this whole debacle.(side note: killzone fake demo from J. Trenton didn't help Sony either.)

I grew to respect MS more when Peter Moore was there because he basically told you how it was, and in the end that's all I think most of us want is just to be told honestly what's up. I know i'm in the minority, but I even pre-ordered an xbox one knowing how crappy it was going to be (DRM - always on) because I at least had the facts and knew what I was getting myself into. I'm not holding it against the compition, but I suspect there's more crap they didn't say about DRM on their system as to not upset the consumers. When the next gen launches i'm pretty sure developers are going to be laying on the DRM crap pretty thick to protect there I.P.'s. You can call me naive but there's no way that MS would have put themselves out there like they did if the compititions systems were not going to be have something in place that produced a similer outcome. Maybe not by the console developer, but they would be planning on how they could impliment it themselves.

I may be psychic, but I saw this coming.  I knew there was a VERY good chance that M$ would change their mind and do a 180.  They'd be stupid to let Sony just win that easily.

Two steps in the right direction - now sell me a version without Kinect for $400 and we've got a deal. 

Vari3ty

Microsoft still requires a one-time online connection, though. That's not a good thing for anyone without convenient internet access - how many people are going to buy an Xbox One and not be able to play games on it because they've never taken it online before? And why is this one-time connection even necessary?

It's funny cause people are complaining about the kinect watching them XD your iPhone can spy on you more than the kinect can guys. XD they are just making up excuses now LOLP1xxel

No, I and others have been unhappy about a mandatory Kinect from the beginning. Last time I checked, an iPhone couldn't read your skin to determine your heartbeat, nor read your intricate facial expressions to tell your emotions. Many games won't even be making use of the Kinect, so you have to wonder why Microsoft is forcing it on consumers - they have it so the console won't even function without it.

As long as Kinect is mandatory for the Xbox One, I won't be buying one.

[QUOTE="Mickeyminime"]for me, i'm 100& solid on PS4 now, but will decide whether or not to get X1, if i do, it will prob be a while, i for one will not forgive MS for what they did and if they can just take it all off, what if they put it all back on?. Not that they would of course, but i no longer trust MS, but thats just mexhawk27

Yeah but what happens if Sony puts in DRM. Let me guess Sony are the Saints of gaming they would never do that. Please grow up. 

Not sure why everyone is so excited about this news. It's a farce. They are only doing this for now so they can sell some consoles. Then all this garbage will be slowly reintroduced with future system updates. :roll:

Region free will most likely be one of the first to go. That is a publisher thing and a localized government content restriction thing, not a console maker thing. Eliminating region locking means publishers can no longer charge different prices in different regions. No tears for that. But it also means publishers can not meet the different content restrictions different countries have. The is the bigger issue as it means either some games will never be legaly sold in some countries and subject to import confiscation, or those games will be censored according to the maximum level of compliance even when sold in countries that have no such content restrictions. So who is ready for COD Green Blood Edition where 'swastikas' are replaced with 'smiley faces' and 'nazi' is replaced with 'enemy'? :roll:

Then again, maybe that is why they aren't to concerned about pushing for world wide sales. The Germans and Ausis probably won't be able to play the console anyways, so no need to worry about their countries' stupid content restriction laws. :question:

Not sure why everyone is so excited about this news. It's a farce. They are only doing this for now so they can sell some consoles. Then all this garbage will be slowly reintroduced with future system updates. :roll:

 

Region free will most likely be one of the first to go. That is a publisher thing and a localized government content restriction thing, not a console maker thing. Eliminating region locking means publishers can no longer charge different prices in different regions. No tears for that. But it also means publishers can not meet the different content restrictions different countries have. The is the bigger issue as it means either some games will never be legaly sold in some countries and subject to import confiscation, or those games will be censored according to the maximum level of compliance even when sold in countries that have no such content restrictions. So who is ready for COD Green Blood Edition where 'swastikas' are replaced with 'smiley faces' and 'nazi' is replaced with 'enemy'? :roll:

 

Then again, maybe that is why they aren't to concerned about pushing for world wide sales. The Germans and Ausis probably won't be able to play the console anyways, so no need to worry about their countries' stupid content restriction laws. :question:

TheRealArtlover

But do you guys think we will get the failure rates of last gen?, our 360 had t be replaced twice, whereas our other consoles still work and are launch day units/ Also, I think MS was a lil too "I dont care about you mr. customer" approach, maybe had they tried to sell the DRM stuff differently we would have another bird singing. Anyways to those who will get the X1, be sure to add me and my bro come december. (We will post on the mandatory sticky post, lol)elchiquilin

Not worried about failure rates, the Xbox One has architecture that Microsoft is great on, not like the Xbox 360 that was rushed to market because Microsoft was stopped from making anymore of the original Xbox.

As far as their approach Microsoft tried to give consumers more power over their games than ever before but idiots who didn't understand ruined things because not only were they idiots but they were loud idiots.

Well microsoft being well... microsoft, they will probably weed their policies back in, after all they are that powerful.