Microsoft rushed the Xbox 360?

Don't get me wrong Im a gamer that loves gaming in general, im a fanboy of all systems.  Especially a very proud owner of a 360.

However with the PS3 out, microsoft have suddenly been releasing or at the very least announced plans to release better versions of the 360 with advanced cooling systems and a bigger hardrive etc.

To me at least, this might suggest that their initial 360 layout was a little less powerful then they had wanted and that they might of simply rushed the initial model to get it released in time making it the first released next gen. But however that does seemed to have paid off with many former PS3 exclusives moving to the 360 as well as many developers commiting themselves to the 360 due to its large fanbase. 

What are your thoughts? am I the only one who seems to think so

(please no fanboy rubbish, lets make this a unbiased civilised discussion, thanks) 

It's possible, but like you said, it paid off. Even if it was rushed they still delivered a hell of a system.dwils

What he said! :P 

Don't get me wrong Im a gamer that loves gaming in general, im a fanboy of all systems. Especially a very proud owner of a 360.

However with the PS3 out, microsoft have suddenly been releasing or at the very least announced plans to release better versions of the 360 with advanced cooling systems and a bigger hardrive etc.

To me at least, this might suggest that their initial 360 layout was a little less powerful then they had wanted and that they might of simply rushed the initial model to get it released in time making it the first released next gen. But however that does seemed to have paid off with many former PS3 exclusives moving to the 360 as well as many developers commiting themselves to the 360 due to its large fanbase.

What are your thoughts? am I the only one who seems to think so

(please no fanboy rubbish, lets make this a unbiased civilised discussion, thanks)

hama666

Don't get me wrong Im a gamer that loves gaming in general, im a fanboy of all systems. Especially a very proud owner of a 360.

However with the PS3 out, microsoft have suddenly been releasing or at the very least announced plans to release better versions of the 360 with advanced cooling systems and a bigger hardrive etc.

To me at least, this might suggest that their initial 360 layout was a little less powerful then they had wanted and that they might of simply rushed the initial model to get it released in time making it the first released next gen. But however that does seemed to have paid off with many former PS3 exclusives moving to the 360 as well as many developers commiting themselves to the 360 due to its large fanbase.

What are your thoughts? am I the only one who seems to think so

(please no fanboy rubbish, lets make this a unbiased civilised discussion, thanks)

hama666

No. The amount of faulty consoles that are send back is hurting them. And the bad media on the faulty hardware is hurting them as well. Updating the console from problems should have been done allot sooner. 

[QUOTE="hama666"]

Don't get me wrong Im a gamer that loves gaming in general, im a fanboy of all systems. Especially a very proud owner of a 360.

However with the PS3 out, microsoft have suddenly been releasing or at the very least announced plans to release better versions of the 360 with advanced cooling systems and a bigger hardrive etc.

To me at least, this might suggest that their initial 360 layout was a little less powerful then they had wanted and that they might of simply rushed the initial model to get it released in time making it the first released next gen. But however that does seemed to have paid off with many former PS3 exclusives moving to the 360 as well as many developers commiting themselves to the 360 due to its large fanbase.

What are your thoughts? am I the only one who seems to think so

(please no fanboy rubbish, lets make this a unbiased civilised discussion, thanks)

FearlessSpirit

No. The amount of faulty consoles that are send back is hurting them. And the bad media on the faulty hardware is hurting them as well. Updating the console from problems should have been done allot sooner.

Valid point, but really doesnt the fact that theres been a huge number of faulty consoles relate to the possibility that the console was rushed in the first place? 

The reason not to include HDMI at the start was because not a lot of people had TVs with HDMI and to keep the cost of the 360 lower. Now that the 360 is cheaper to make they can include HDMI without charging a arm and leg like the other console. rrjim1

Againt thats a good point, but why didnt they release the 360 with a 120gb earlier? Surely they knew that the PS3 has a 60gb model in the making. 

Yea it was launched 18month ago now, and there still hasnt been any MAJOR updates to the platform bar the Elites, which just has extra's, no fixes to HDD's or extra cooling.

So no, i dont think it was "rushed".

Yea it was launched 18month ago now, and there still hasnt been any MAJOR updates to the platform bar the Elites, which just has extra's, no fixes to HDD's or extra cooling.

So no, i dont think it was "rushed".

Yea it was launched 18month ago now, and there still hasnt been any MAJOR updates to the platform bar the Elites, which just has extra's, no fixes to HDD's or extra cooling.

So no, i dont think it was "rushed".

dannyodwyer

YEP the fact that it was released a year before other systems and the fact that it still stands up to the other systems basically says to me that the console was not rused and delivered all that it needed to deliver.

They should have never released the HD DVD drive in the first place if it wasn't included in the base model.Now there is a chance a developer might use that drive for a game splitting the market for the 360 that could be a problem!!Yes I know Microsoft said it was for video only but that won't stop an enterprising developer from using it.mj53916

An amateur developer using XNA might be able to but i doubt it.  They'd have to update the API to support it.  Also you have to get approval by MS and they aren't going to let them do it so even if you wanted to it won't happen.  MS will need to release a new xbox model that has the built in hd-dvd drive, which i doubt they will do 

[QUOTE="dwils"]It's possible, but like you said, it paid off. Even if it was rushed they still delivered a hell of a system.TheRedStrike

What he said! :P

and what they said!

The ONLY thing I think that is barely messing them up is the number of console breakdowns, but people are still buygin them so that has to tell you something...

YES it was rushed! I knew that when it launched,but still..... I got one sitting next to me right now..so...

And the XBOX Elite does not have better cooling....does it???

They should have never released the HD DVD drive in the first place if it wasn't included in the base model.Now there is a chance a developer might use that drive for a game splitting the market for the 360 that could be a problem!!Yes I know Microsoft said it was for video only but that won't stop an enterprising developer from using it.mj53916

This goes back to one of the bigger advantages to the 360...lower price. They never intended or wanted to release the console with a HD-DVD drive built in because that would have brought the price up to near PS3 levels and taken away their advantage. As for a rogue developer making games for the HD drive...what?

While it now seems they rushed the original process yes, but like you mentioned, it did pay off. Just look at all the supposed PS3 exclusives that are now going multiplatform, and coming to the 360. It's a win-win situation.ffgothic

Guys Im not only referring to the ELITE here,

Im talking about the new 65nm Xbox 360 processor recently announced thats said to have a cooling system as well as MUCH less noise.

graphics look great...

I think it was rushed for the fact that had Nvidia stopped producing gfx cards for the original x-box they probably would have released the 360 a year later. But what looked like a curse in the beginning has been a blessing in disguise because it allowed them to gain greater market share over SONY for a whole year.

However, just because they have produced the Elite with HDMI and a larger hard drive doesn't mean that they didn't think of those things from the beginning. I"m sure it was more of a cost issue. And most companies, if they are concerned with expanding their market, will release new products that have update technology. That's what progress is all about. Adapt or die is the mantra, and MS is adapting quite well considering that they have only been in the console business for 6 years.