Modern warfare 2 is starting to look extremely stupid.

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

Heart of the Reich was the first time inthe last15 years my controller almost got destroyed. Challange is good. Endless grenades dropping on you with endlessly spawning enemies throwing them is bad. I read a gamefaqs vet guide after dying 20 times and it said 90% of people would not get passed that point. I thought they were being dramatic, but they weren't. That made Mile High Club looks like a cake walk.

Ellimem

I agree, at least with Mile High Club you could learn from yourself to get better at completing, with that it is no skill just hope the grenades land in the right spots. I beat both but was more satisfied with MHC knowing it was skill that got me through not dumb luck. Amirite?

In my opinion you are totally right. I have to say I was HAPPIER I beat HotR because I honestly was doubting if I was going to be able to, but like you said, I got lucky, the grenades landed in the right spots and I hit a checkpoint. MHC required a certain degree of luck, but it was minimal. With enough knowledge of who was where doing what, and the skill to execute it, it is very doable. I am definitely more proud of MHC because I would say HotR is about 95% luck 5 % skill, and MHC is about the total opposite. As for the controller, I still have a SNES with yellow tape holding it together to remind me that's not the way to do.

[QUOTE="Ellimem"]

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

Heart of the Reich was the first time inthe last15 years my controller almost got destroyed. Challange is good. Endless grenades dropping on you with endlessly spawning enemies throwing them is bad. I read a gamefaqs vet guide after dying 20 times and it said 90% of people would not get passed that point. I thought they were being dramatic, but they weren't. That made Mile High Club looks like a cake walk.

billyd5301

I agree, at least with Mile High Club you could learn from yourself to get better at completing, with that it is no skill just hope the grenades land in the right spots. I beat both but was more satisfied with MHC knowing it was skill that got me through not dumb luck. Amirite?

In my opinion you are totally right. I have to say I was HAPPIER I beat HotR because I honestly was doubting if I was going to be able to, but like you said, I got lucky, the grenades landed in the right spots and I hit a checkpoint. MHC required a certain degree of luck, but it was minimal. With enough knowledge of who was where doing what, and the skill to execute it, it is very doable. I am definitely more proud of MHC because I would say HotR is about 95% luck 5 % skill, and MHC is about the total opposite. As for the controller, I still have a SNES with yellow tape holding it together to remind me that's not the way to do.

Agreed.

I hate to go off topic, but it seems to me that the launch controller that I have gotten with the system is the one that works best/still works. For every system I still own and play from the SNES to the N64 to the 360. I wonder why that is, no controllers I get are aftermarket (except the Mad Katz controllers for the GCN that are simply better than the originals).

I don't think any of the ideas that they came up with are stupid. They want the people that aren't good in multiplayer FPS games to have fun and maybe enjoy the game.

It'snice to go off topic in this thread. This thread has been around for 3 days and the OP hasn't been around since he created it. And the whole thing is based on a matter of opinion anyway, so you can either drop your e*balls on the table and have a stroke about the pros and cons of perks, or have fun going off topic. Speaking of, I'm kind of glad this doesn't have Nazi Zombies. Saves me from spending $10 on some DLC just for a zombie map.

People always talk about how unfair it is for unlockables in MP especially CoD4/MW2 because good players have even better weapons.

I disagree, am I the only one that thought the learning curve in CoD4 was rather fair? I didn't have a hard time jumping in and not feeling overwhelmed.

People always talk about how unfair it is for unlockables in MP especially CoD4/MW2 because good players have even better weapons.

I disagree, am I the only one that thought the learning curve in CoD4 was rather fair? I didn't have a hard time jumping in and not feeling overwhelmed.

I don't think any of the ideas that they came up with are stupid. They want the people that aren't good in multiplayer FPS games to have fun and maybe enjoy the game.

LostSoul781

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]i have NEVER played a game the the enemies throw as many nades as COD5seankane

It was definitely much worse in WaW than it was in MW.

yeah true but does every soldier have over 5 grenades?

Veteran ~ You won't survive (cuz of nade spam) ~

Yea it's getting too arcady for me. I'll enjoy the campain and maybe play some hardcore modes.nate_c-12

Sorry, but what makes it arcady? I'm not trying to be a dbag i just never understand this statement.

Let get me something straight across the table it' s AN AUTHENTHICGAME not a realistic one if you want realism go play ArmA II or wait for Operation Flashpoint and leave Call of Duty alone by trying to be the "cool, controversial, minority".

I like how people complain before the game comes out. The truth is that if you haven't played it then you don't know jack about it. You obviously like the seris or you wouldn't try to bad mouth it. I bet you buy this game, and complain about it more but play it everyday.

when i'm at low levels i'm going to perpusly die 3 times and then respawn with awesome stuff and get mega kill streaks!!!!!!

I like how people complain before the game comes out. The truth is that if you haven't played it then you don't know jack about it. You obviously like the seris or you wouldn't try to bad mouth it. I bet you buy this game, and complain about it more but play it everyday.

CGT37

[QUOTE="nate_c-12"]Yea it's getting too arcady for me. I'll enjoy the campain and maybe play some hardcore modes.Ellimem

Sorry, but what makes it arcady? I'm not trying to be a dbag i just never understand this statement.

[QUOTE="Ellimem"]

[QUOTE="nate_c-12"]Yea it's getting too arcady for me. I'll enjoy the campain and maybe play some hardcore modes.billyd5301

Sorry, but what makes it arcady? I'm not trying to be a dbag i just never understand this statement.

I get that I guess, that makes sense. But what in the hell about MW2 looks arcady lol. The only thing that reminds me of an arcade game is in non hardcore how the points pop up when you get kills and whatnot lol.

Arcade in this sense and arcade in the sense of actual arcade games don't have much to do with each other here. What he is saying about being arcady is basically that the perks are going to make it over the top. He is saying CoD is going from more of a simulation type of shooter to a more Haloish kind of shooter.

This game is now going to take less skill than Modern Warfare 1, is that even possible?:P

no i know alot of people who aren't going to like this game its gonna be worse than any cod forbullcrap now.

IW has made 3 games correct?

Call of Duty 1: 70 GotY awards and 50 editor's choice awards, 93% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 2: First 360 game to sell 1 million copies, 89% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 4: 13 million copies sold...Actually THIS sums it up well, 94% Metacritic.

So, after this short history of AMAZING games, why are people suddenly doubting IW? Did they become too popular and now people have to hate them for it?

Seriously, wait until they screw up to hate on them.

IW has made 3 games correct?

Call of Duty 1: 70 GotY awards and 50 editor's choice awards, 93% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 2: First 360 game to sell 1 million copies, 89% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 4: 13 million copies sold...Actually THIS sums it up well, 94% Metacritic.

So, after this short history of AMAZING games, why are people suddenly doubting IW? Did they become too popular and now people have to hate them for it?

Seriously, wait until they screw up to hate on them.

Ellimem

IW has made 3 games correct?

Call of Duty 1: 70 GotY awards and 50 editor's choice awards, 93% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 2: First 360 game to sell 1 million copies, 89% Metacritic.

Call of Duty 4: 13 million copies sold...Actually THIS sums it up well, 94% Metacritic.

So, after this short history of AMAZING games, why are people suddenly doubting IW? Did they become too popular and now people have to hate them for it?

Seriously, wait until they screw up to hate on them.

Ellimem

So it's not okay for the OP to voice concerns about a game, but the million posts saying "i can't wait for santa to bring me borderlands because it looks sooooo awesome" are okay?

the game is going to be epic. i expect 9.5 from gs

So it's not okay for the OP to voice concerns about a game, but the million posts saying "i can't wait for santa to bring me borderlands because it looks sooooo awesome" are okay?

billyd5301

I guess so lol.

Everyones opinion matters as long as it agrees with your own...

the game is going to be epic. i expect 9.5 from gs

Carnifex726

I'm sure that the developers, who just happen to have a success rate of about 100% with Call of Duty games, are going to completely, and purposely ruin this game. I mean, come on.. Adding more features? Really? This game is going to suck! I wish they would have just packaged a copy of COD4 and took out all the perks that everyone says made it great. That would be the best game EVER!! I can't wait for it to flop just so they can release the next one with NO new features. Who want's to buy this game anyway? I heard like no one pre ordered it lolz.

At first I was like -_-. Then I was like ^_^.

They should add the Beowulf into the game. That would kick ass. Sure it isn't good past 200 yards but it is well worth it lol.

Personally, I like the idea of getting extra health if you die to many times. It helps those out who are new to the game.

And I love everything I've seen so far, I can't wait!!!

If you don't like the added features to the multiplayer, just play offline and single player mode. If you truely are a fan of CoD these minor additions should'nt affect you at all.

You mention the deathstreaks as a negative. Actually it's to show how skilled you are... if you keeping the same guy and get ten kills you get a bunch of perks, while the guy who died 10x in a row gets a perk to help him stand up to you. If you're still able to kill him with his upgrades/perks then you're the man, but if the boost helps him enough to kill you then it did it's job to stop your spree. It's all about balance which I think will make this game much more fun than Modern Warfare Part 1.

AtlanticRock

[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

If you don't like the added features to the multiplayer, just play offline and single player mode. If you truely are a fan of CoD these minor additions should'nt affect you at all.

You mention the deathstreaks as a negative. Actually it's to show how skilled you are... if you keeping the same guy and get ten kills you get a bunch of perks, while the guy who died 10x in a row gets a perk to help him stand up to you. If you're still able to kill him with his upgrades/perks then you're the man, but if the boost helps him enough to kill you then it did it's job to stop your spree. It's all about balance which I think will make this game much more fun than Modern Warfare Part 1.

Bl3ss_The_F4ll

true that very rediculous looking...but thats still not gonna stop people from buying it...

but i see your point it seems like the develepors spend 99.9% percent of there time on the multiplayer...thats all fine and good...

if they would of tweak it a little and i o mean a little...not completely...

and pesonally the campaign doesnt look as good or as emersive as the first....simply beacause its overshadowed by the mutiplayer...

damn you infinity ward...YOU MESSED UP...

true that very rediculous looking...but thats still not gonna stop people from buying it...

but i see your point it seems like the develepors spend 99.9% percent of there time on the multiplayer...thats all fine and good...

if they would of tweak it a little and i o mean a little...not completely...

and pesonally the campaign doesnt look as good or as emersive as the first....simply beacause its overshadowed by the mutiplayer...

damn you infinity ward...YOU MESSED UP...

-NOXiK_AOPK-

There is like 15 minutes of a 6 hour campaign seen by the internets, how can you tell?

[QUOTE="-NOXiK_AOPK-"]

true that very rediculous looking...but thats still not gonna stop people from buying it...

but i see your point it seems like the develepors spend 99.9% percent of there time on the multiplayer...thats all fine and good...

if they would of tweak it a little and i o mean a little...not completely...

and pesonally the campaign doesnt look as good or as emersive as the first....simply beacause its overshadowed by the mutiplayer...

damn you infinity ward...YOU MESSED UP...

Ellimem

There is like 15 minutes of a 6 hour campaign seen by the internets, how can you tell?

my point exact...wheres the rest of the campaign videos...like i said Multiplayer overshadows the campaign...

beacase no1 really cares this time around...everyone just wants to prestige and get there gold guns...o and talk **** over live...just to proof there **** tough (OVER A VIDEO GAME)...i still to this day play COD4...for fun,not competively like most of the jerk offs on there,thinking they have a point to proof because they just beat your clan...i say who gives a s*!* its just a F***ing game...

my point exact...wheres the rest of the campaign videos...like i said Multiplayer overshadows the campaign...

beacase no1 really cares this time around...everyone just wants to prestige and get there gold guns...o and talk **** over live...just to proof there **** tough (OVER A VIDEO GAME)...i still to this day play COD4...for fun,not competively like most of the jerk offs on there,thinking they have a point to proof because they just beat your clan...i say who gives a s*!* its just a F***ing game...

-NOXiK_AOPK-

OK, I got you, it's probably because everyone knows how the campaign works and showing off more footage is like giving away spoilers. I don't need to see any videos of it. I know it will be sick.