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#1 mpalacio
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Would you vote for this law to pass if it decreased young kids playing "M" rated games on Xbox live like Gears or Rainbow Six? Just curious.

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#2 darkface
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Sure, why not? Since I am above the age of 17 I could care less if it was illegal. Muahahahahaha!
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#3 Strife88
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It was annoying when I was 16 trying to buy Killzone and GTA, they should probably change it.
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#4 aco512
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Would you vote for this law to pass if it decreased young kids playing "M" rated games on Xbox live like Gears or Rainbow Six? Just curious.

mpalacio

what do you mean "law to pass"

isn't it already a law

but do stores enforce it? most of the time, no

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#5 mpalacio
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[QUOTE="mpalacio"]

Would you vote for this law to pass if it decreased young kids playing "M" rated games on Xbox live like Gears or Rainbow Six? Just curious.

aco512

what do you mean "law to pass"

isn't it already a law

but do stores enforce it? most of the time, no

Is it a law? Didn't know that? Is it a state-by-state or federal law?

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#6 SouL-Tak3R
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It is already a law, am I right?
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#7 NismoZZzz
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No, it's not law like selling rated R movies. The ESA is a independent organization and has nothing to do with the government. Publlishers can choose to have their games rated, but they don't have to. Most, if not all, do so though. It's more along the lines as a guideline to show parents what these games contain. Why do you think you always read about states trying to pass the law to make it illegal and then keep getting shutdown?

So far, I think GameStop is the only place under CORPORATE POLICY to follow the M rating of 17 and not selling to anyone under that age or the staff gets in trouble or something.

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#8 Legolas_Katarn
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Why would I want such an idiotic law to pass? Sure most kids should be banned from Xbox Live, then again, so should most adults.
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#9 Akm4everz
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yup make the illegal everything else in america is illegal so who gives...
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#10 zidan4000
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its useless , even if its an agressive law and make the person who sells M games to minors go to prison , if im an 8 years old boy and i want an adults game , i only send my big brother or my daddy to buy that game for me and i play it in home , and ESRB is useless here in my country it means nothing.
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#11 sonic0491
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wtf! in australia you can buy m games are made for 15+ but you can buy them if your a little younger

with ma you HAVE to be 15.

why the heck do you have to be 17 just for m? that means you have to be 17 to play tony hawks project 8 and stuff HAHAHA

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#12 hollywood6258
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i dont believe that any media should be illegal to distribute ever however then again it is nice to have censors so that three year olds arent watching porn, but i do not thing that the legality should be discussed but maybe like some kind of consent system? parental permission required idk but no i would never vote for any law allowing the censorship of media
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#13 DarthLukeboy
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I'm 16... I have no problem getting them though.

However, I think playing with anyone 12 and younger is ridiculous. Hell, 14 and younger. That's partly why Halo 3 will be... sad. It'll just be a party game for me and my friends, for a while.

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#14 marinebro0306
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I'm keeping with my idea that the third option was extraneous. "Yes" or "No" is fine, the third throws off the results.

That being said, I think 16 is a fairer age.

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#15 Gen007
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it isnt a law yet but yeah most majot stores like eb games wal mart, best buy ect have policys that say they wont sell M rated games to people under 17. the only problem is that alot of times for me people forget to check id and just sell the game.

only place i know that always checks id is the eb games at the mall next to me because the manager cuaght them selling oe before

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#16 chaoscougar1
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i dont care lol, in Australia the oldest u need to be is 15 (16 now)

but i guess in saying that im not looking forward to having a halo 2 repeat in halo 3 with rude, loud, racist and obnoxious

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#17 baseball24707
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yo why does every1 over 17 make it a big deal its not changing our mind i ve plat gta gow cod halo 1, 2, and the halo 3 beta
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#18 chaoscougar1
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yo why does every1 over 17 make it a big deal its not changing our mindi ve plat gta gow cod halo 1, 2, and the halo 3 betabaseball24707

its not about how desensitised you are, its how mature you are in dealing with other people, kids lack any sort of subtlety in what they say, they lack the knowledge to think before they open their mouths

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#19 baseball24707
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umm yea im mature theres no problem wit me im 15 is there a difference
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#20 chaoscougar1
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umm yea im mature theres no problem wit me im 15 is there a differencebaseball24707

who said there was:|

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#21 pepperman33
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Here in the UK it is a law, and a few shops enforce it, however nowhere near as strictly than films. ITV (Tv station) did a program where they sent 11 year olds into shops to buy games like manhunt and doom3, and about half actually refused them. But seriously, things like manhunt 2 - would you seriously give it to a kid aged 8-9? its just as bad as an 18 film so why should they be able to buy it (manhunt is just an example, i don't hate it or anything)
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#22 -Halftime-
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Sure, why not? Since I am above the age of 17 I could care less if it was illegal. Muahahahahaha!darkface

What he said.

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#23 Bladefighter23
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I got GTA3 when I was 13 so I don't think even though there are rules that the workers care.
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#24 blue_tape
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It should be illegal for people to have children without passing a series of exams. Question #1. Your 13 year old child wants to buy a game rated M for Mature. What do you do? Disqualifying answers would have to be: Buy the game for my child because I don't want him to have a fit. Pretend like I don't see the content in the game. Wait, I have a child?
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#25 jchaff
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In Tennessee you must be 17 to buy a rated M game.

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#26 Z-Bombz
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first off if u are underage and a regular into a gamestop or wherever they will usually sell it to you anyways...But since im 18 lol i could care less becuase i mean i dont have any trouble haha
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#27 bri360
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I dont really care, im only 1 year away from being able to buy them myself and if I want it now, I just get my older bro to come along and get it for me.
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#28 YourLastDay86
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I see it like this. If you have to be 17 to get into "R" movies that contain explicit violence, drug use, nudity, etc. then why not make it 17 to buy a game that contains some if not all of those?
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#29 Ranger_ISO
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I see it like this. If you have to be 17 to get into "R" movies that contain explicit violence, drug use, nudity, etc. then why not make it 17 to buy a game that contains some if not all of those?YourLastDay86

I completely agree. Now I do see the argument that some teenagers are more mature for their age--thats due to good parenting. If your under 17 and your parents know Johnny/Jane can handle Mature content-then those parents should go ahead and get the game/movie for them. When the ESRB first started(I was already 17), but I told my parents about it since my little brother that was 7 would be growing up in an industry where they eventually push the envelopes. That helped them to get the proper games as my brother grew up.

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#30 SentryGunner411
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Parents should buy kids violent videogames at THEIR discretion. Kids don't know right from wrong. There are too many bad parents. So basically the government has to be your parent and tell you no. Which is of course how they do it in Cuba under a dictatorship.

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#31 linkin_guy109
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the problem isnt the law, its the parents buying these games for there kids and store clerks who dont pay attention to game ratings, and i would love to see action tooken against kids who play m rated games because they can be very immature, like most age groups of people, but i guess those high pitched voices just get really annoying after a while
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#32 adrincole
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I was lucky to become of age long before they started rating games. But I still think its a waste of time. Just another example of Lazy Parents and an Overbearing Govt. Parents need to start watching what there kids do and play.
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#33 BigDaveyDogz
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It is a law to SELL videogames rated M to minors without their parents. It is not illegal to PLAY M rated games once you get them to your home.
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#34 Ares0nFire
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i dont know about you guys, but i hate hearing freaken 9 year old voices on gears of war. they are annoying as all hell. but whats worst than a 9 year old voice is an english 9 year old cause you cant understand them at all.
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#35 SolidSnaku401
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As much as I hate censorship, I hate 13 year old kids on XBL even more who are playing games they probably shouldn't be playing. A shame that proper parenting isn't more common, eh?

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#36 SentryGunner411
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There are a good amount of 12 year olds and older who are very mature on Xbox Live. I keep those on my friends list who are mature and really good at multiplayer. I have heard some very annoying kids though. Its really a shame to hear thse little kids cuss and call people noobs and crap. All you can do is mute them.

Discrimination is wrong anyway you look at it. Age discrimination is no different. If you don't like their voice, then mute them or boot them from your room. :P

Wait....I made absolutely no point in that last statement.....whatever.... hahahahaha

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#37 Cedmln
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Well if youre old enough to play a mature game, then you're old enough to hold a gun and shoot it at someone.
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#38 DryvBy2
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Everything should be illegal. Even forums should be 17+.
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#39 xbxjetraider
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This is a very versatile conflict. As hardcore gamers ranging from all ages, we should all be fair and partial to laws regarding the entertainment industry.

I don't think we need to change the way games are rated. However, we do need to change laws on how to enforce the rating system, and change laws about who can purchase what.

Retailers, major and minor, need to have their employees understand that they should not sell innappropriate content to those who the E.S.R.B determines should not have access to.

Federal Law should fine any retailer who does not abide by the E.S.R.B rating system.

Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony should allow developers & publishers to publish AO rated games.

Retailers shouldn't carry AO rated games on store shelves, but they should still sell them behind closed curtain. (Upon request of the consumer).

Any "M" rated game should not be sold to persons under the age of 17 of course. Anyone under 17 should have parental consent before the retailer sells the game to the minor.

Federal laws should be passed to enforce these concepts.

Censorship is not an option.

With federal regulation of these concepts, activists like Hil Clinton, Joe Liberman, & Jack Thompson wouldn't be able to complain about violence & sex in video games, and blame would be put soley in the hands of the ones truly responsible for having a **** up child - the parents.

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#40 REforever101
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i said yes, to get all those damns kids off
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#41 Halo552
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i am 15 and i find it really annoying that every time i wanna rent or buy a M reated game i have to bring my mom or dad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#42 cool_baller
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Now that I am 17 years old, I don't care. :)
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#43 wwervin
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Most stores require you to be 16 to buy M games, however most of them also don't even ask you how old you are. I don't think a new law is necessary, I just think they need to enforce the laws we have now. And yes, like many have stated, this law is pretty much pointless because a minor will not go in the store himself to get an M game, they'll have an older person there.
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#44 caddy
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Its actually 18 for the same games over here in the UK. I do think age restrictions should stay though. There are reasons why games are rated. This is one aspect where it is the same with movies. Movies are rated and games should be too because some games aren't fit for people who aren't mature enough. Sure, there are people younger than 17/18 who are more than mature enough but there are some that aren't. By the same token, its the same with some people over the limit but that is not the point. By that age, people are deemed old enough to make their own decisions on what they want to play.
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#45 Halo552
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also i think people are forgetting something that most people from they're early 20's-30's are more imature than kids on xbox live,i don't know how many times i've heard ''i did your mom man!''.i'm not saying trying to generlize i'm just saying when you look at every age group on LIVE they are all equaly annoying!!!

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#47 Halo552
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well i think if it's someone under 17's parents think it's alright ,did the goverment raise you NO!!!so if someone of age buys a M rated game for you that's alright!But i still hate the law now but what are you gonna do .plus really all polititions are trying to do is appeal to christian mothers!!!
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#48 wwervin
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I for one, 19 years old, have been more annoying than kids on Live sometimes lol. It's just how it is with the older guys, they get competitive. There's no real way to stop people from being annoying on Live, no matter what age group they belong to. Like I said though, no new laws, just enforce the ones we have now.
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#49 club-sandwich
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wtf! in australia you can buy m games are made for 15+ but you can buy them if your a little younger

with ma you HAVE to be 15.

why the heck do you have to be 17 just for m? that means you have to be 17 to play tony hawks project 8 and stuff HAHAHA

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mmm no because THP8 is rated T here, T is 13 and above :| and games that are rated M18 over there are rated M (17 or above) here in America so... no hahahahaha :|
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#50 Akm4everz
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i am 15 and i find it really annoying that every time i wanna rent or buy a M reated game i have to bring my mom or dad!!!!!!!!!!!!!Halo552

awwww thats cute