Proof that Playing Games on HDD reduces Quality of Graphics

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#51 Azmod3aN
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[QUOTE="getrdun118"]i was reading and gamespot said that the load times arent that much quicker. so why download a game that is going to take up 6 to 10 gb of space just to make loading a couple seconds quicker. makes no sense to me. Ket87

Alot of people's impressions were made using the Game Informer test which testing start up load times. Which is an unfair assessment because practically every game has start up screens that are unskipable or are cached. Noones really been saying anything about in game.

Plus regardless of load times the fact that the game isn't loading from the disc alleviates a lot of the stress on the console itself. It does not have to run the disc drive so it will run much quieter and cooler than previously with installed games which is what is most important about the update not the fact you can shave of a few seconds here and there. This update will most likely save a lot of consoles from RROD. I can't wait for it solely for Fable 2, it does not sound right when the disc is playing and I already know someone whose console broke while playing Fable 2.

Tested Fable 2 install to HDD and seriously, the graphics are sharper. there is little to no pop-in of textures. I didn't notice significant improvements with load times, but i don't care, because if i can make my xbox live longer by lessening wear and tear significantly that makes all the difference in the world.

I like how you pointed out that it will save a lot of consoles from RROD. How? DVD drive sits on top of the GPU. Come Nov 19, try the HDD install on games like GOW2, fable 2, or fallout 3 or any game that streams data constantly. Normally if you put your hand on top of the console where the drive would be, there's bound to be heat. Not with the HDD install. The drive only spins to validate the disc and then hands off the controls to the HDD.

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#52 Mac8457
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Yea, common sense lends you to believe it will create less heat thus reducing RRoD. We will wait and see if this true though.
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#53 EXLINK
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The exact same data is transferred off the DVD onto the HDD; there would not be a "degradation" of graphics because of that. This is a bluff.
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#54 EnderSR388
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[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]Honestly I couldn't see a difference in graphical quality, but that video is very low resolution so it's really hard to tell either way. I did notice the that the load times are about a second faster then the DVD, but who's to say that the HDD side didn't start a second sooner. Anyways I really didn't notice a huge difference in load times or graphics.Mac8457
Did you watch the higher quality version?

I watched whatever he linked.

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#55 FirstDiscovery
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BS, how can something like this be even true?
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#56 naruto7777
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the dvd is better
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#57 BaconB1ts123
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[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"][QUOTE="Avenger1324"]

You gotta love how people that pirate a pre-release version of software then turn around and start complaining when something doesn't work properly.

Wait for the real thing then judge for yourself.

It shouldn't make any difference to the graphics, but should improve load times and reduce texture pop-up

Avenger1324

Using the update now is not illegal at all. It is a free update so how can using it early be wrong? You won't be able to play online until the official date but that is it.

Downloading not yet released software from a torrent or other site/program instead of the genuine publisher. Yeah that would be illegal.

Installing it on your 360 would break your Terms of Use agreement, something which MS can ban your console and gamertag for.

So take your pick of which reason you want for why using it early could be wrong.

Better take anouther look at MS TOS. Nothing said about using THEIR code being wrong (early, late , what ever). Maybe you could review your law books and give me a ref on why you think your first statement is true because unless you have been in the dark lots of legit stuff can be from torrents, example OpenOffice.org, Linux releases , etc. AND it IS from the "genuine" publisher. But hey, what ever helps you sleep at night!

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#58 nethernova
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Although I'm COMPLETELY neutral on this matter, some people really do have absolute s*** eyesight. In that Fable video on youtube (even if it is youtube), there is BLATANTLY a difference between the two. It's either bad eyesight or simply denial of what some of you don't want to see (e.g you're in full favour of the HDD concept and deny any noticeable image degradativity). Sure, the guy managing this test might have slyly messed around with the colour/contrast settings on those screens to make the HDD picture appear slightly worse, but judging from that video alone, there is definetly an inferior picture on the HDD screen. Personally, I'd describe it as slightly "washed-out" compared to the DVD version.Angurvadal_88

Yes, there may be a difference but that doesn't matter, because anybody with the slightest technical knowledge can tell you that it's definately not because of the HDD. This has nothing to do with denial, it's just common sense.

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#59 DTStone
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There is no reason that transferring a game from a DVD to a HDD will cause graphical issues. Heck -- computer gamers do it all the time, just so they don't have to wait for the DVD. It's not like copying data from a DVD to a HDD is rebuilding the graphics or anything. It just doesn't work that way.

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#60 boyinfridge
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/285345.html

this vid shows the real benefits just look at the time difference at the end of the vid and I dont see a downgrade in graphics either

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#61 PlasmaBeam44
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Lies. It's just the quality of the video on YouTube.
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#62 SgtSilock
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My god what a stupid thread. Youhadn'tproved anything. Why did you say you have? : /
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#63 _Kikode_
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[QUOTE="getrdun118"]i was reading and gamespot said that the load times arent that much quicker. so why download a game that is going to take up 6 to 10 gb of space just to make loading a couple seconds quicker. makes no sense to me. DJ_Lae

Noise. I don't know about everyone else, but my 360's drive sounds like a jet turbine.

Not that I can do anything about it, since I don't have any hard drive space left.

Mine sounds like a cofee machine :)

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#64 DataDream
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Remember that there are already people who have the new dashboard and options.

If you look closely you see a small contrast/graphic reducement on HDD (and no it's not because of the difference in lightning of the environment because there simply is none) not that different but still noticeable to the naked eye.

a bit faster loading times make it up for this but i'd rather play with better graphics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0LoxAlh0Sc&feature=related (Fable II)

DVD or HDD, what do you think?

DutchDoc

That's absolutely ridiculous - that's not how digital information (code) works. As long as the code going to the GPU is the same - guess what - the graphics are the same!

It looks based on coloring like he actually ran 2 different monitors side by side for this video - any graphical differences would be due to that.

Again it's not possible for the media source to affect graphics - that's just not how code works. It could affect transfer rates or speed but that's it.

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