sadly it looks like dragon's dogma will flop...bad, i mean real bad

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#1 Trinitarian
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6.0 oxm

48% some other review.

this sucks this was the only game this year besides gtvV that i was SOOO hyped for, oh well it looks like i wont have to sell my left nut for it after all ;/

Edit: I might be wrong as i just found out that Game Informer scored it a 8.5. This is a sign of hope.

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#2 Venom951
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6.0 oxm

48% some other review.

this sucks this was the only game this year besides gtvV that i was SOOO hyped for, oh well it looks like i wont have to sell my left nut for it after all ;/

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Just by the demo I knew the game was garbage it didn't have the level of polish skyrim or the witcher had . Great Ambition but failed execution .
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I don't think I ever heard the word polish and Skyrim used the same sentence lol.
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I don't think I ever heard the word polish and Skyrim used the same sentence lol. Sepewrath
This. I enjoyed the demo I don't really let reviewers change my opinion too much because I tend to overlook problems games have.
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#5 MentatAssassin
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I wasnt hyped for it but I did hope it would be worth playing.

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The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.
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The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.Smokescreened84

Your gut is a pretty bad judge if it thinks that Rockstar is a bad developer.

But I mean if you like sub par games your gut is great for you

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Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.
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I don't think I ever heard the word polish and Skyrim used the same sentence lol. Sepewrath
AWESOME POINT!!!!! :)
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The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.Smokescreened84

well i'm hardly that type of gamer. My favorite game then gen on the xbox is Dark Souls. It doesn't hold your hand and offers up a fair fight although it be unforgiving. The review i read noted that dragon's dogma has been compared to many games like skyrim and dark souls. However, it mentioned that combat seemed like players running around like their heads cut off.

Or that the game world itself is shallow and their is no depth in the RPG elements. Well, given how high my hype meter was running for this game i was hoping it would get instant critical success and that's not because i want to play games with high scores to make me fell good inside. It was because good reviews usually means that particular game in that genre will deliver on the selling points. And the major "hook" in this game is the pawn system, which was reviewed as being a super fiscal addition, sadly.

Well, at the end of the day i will be looking at the metric score and player reviews. I just can't simply afford to risk buying this game new without the assurance this game is what i'm lead to believe. I'm sure i'll be picking this game up soon after release but i'll still be playing the crap out of dark souls. However, if Dragon's Dogma had co-op it would have been a day one for me no questions asked. Whoever it was that decided that this game shouldn't have co-op and went for the pawn system should be fired cause this game could have been the dark souls for capcom.

They worked on this game for the entire cycle of this generation and i'm afraid all that hard work will be for not because of the down right stupid choice not to include co-op. I'm 99.9% sure that if co-op was in this game with classes diversity being a must against a hard PvE it would have made millions of more dollars compared to it now being at risk of a failed investment.

This game has so much potential i just hope its not a total waste.

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Meh, the only thing good about this game is the fact that you can climb on enemies. Like I said before, without co-op this game is a total bust.
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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.Trinitarian

well i'm hardly that type of gamer. My favorite game then gen on the xbox is Dark Souls. It doesn't hold your hand and offers up a fair fight although it be unforgiving. The review i read noted that dragon's dogma has been compared to many games like skyrim and dark souls. However, it mentioned that combat seemed like players running around like their heads cut off.

Or that the game world itself is shallow and their is no depth in the RPG elements. Well, given how high my hype meter was running for this game i was hoping it would get instant critical success and that's not because i want to play games with high scores to make me fell good inside. It was because good reviews usually means that particular game in that genre will deliver on the selling points. And the major "hook" in this game is the pawn system, which was reviewed as being a super fiscal addition, sadly.

Well, at the end of the day i will be looking at the metric score and player reviews. I just can't simply afford to risk buying this game new without the assurance this game is what i'm lead to believe. I'm sure i'll be picking this game up soon after release but i'll still be playing the crap out of dark souls. However, if Dragon's Dogma had co-op it would have been a day one for me no questions asked. Whoever it was that decided that this game shouldn't have co-op and went for the pawn system should be fired cause this game could have been the dark souls for capcom.

They worked on this game for the entire cycle of this generation and i'm afraid all that hard work will be for not because of the down right stupid choice not to include co-op. I'm 99.9% sure that if co-op was in this game with classes diversity being a must against a hard PvE it would have made millions of more dollars compared to it now being at risk of a failed investment.

This game has so much potential i just hope its not a total waste.

I'm glad it doesn't have co-op and multi player in general, not every game needs such a thing. It would have taken away a lot of the resources for the single player. It's good that they've focused on the single player. We need more single player focused games, not less. Instead of dismissing the game as a 'failure' because it won't cater to the COD/Halo crowd who keep demanding such a pointless feature and are catered to far too often - like the boring multi player slapped onto Mass Effect 3 and other titles having a pointless multi player slapped on just to market to the COD/Halo crowd, why not actually play the game for yourself and form your own opinion by playing the game? Rent it out if you're not sure about buying it, but don't dismiss it just because it doesn't have an unneeded multi player slapped on where it isn't needed.
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#13 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"]

[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.Smokescreened84

well i'm hardly that type of gamer. My favorite game then gen on the xbox is Dark Souls. It doesn't hold your hand and offers up a fair fight although it be unforgiving. The review i read noted that dragon's dogma has been compared to many games like skyrim and dark souls. However, it mentioned that combat seemed like players running around like their heads cut off.

Or that the game world itself is shallow and their is no depth in the RPG elements. Well, given how high my hype meter was running for this game i was hoping it would get instant critical success and that's not because i want to play games with high scores to make me fell good inside. It was because good reviews usually means that particular game in that genre will deliver on the selling points. And the major "hook" in this game is the pawn system, which was reviewed as being a super fiscal addition, sadly.

Well, at the end of the day i will be looking at the metric score and player reviews. I just can't simply afford to risk buying this game new without the assurance this game is what i'm lead to believe. I'm sure i'll be picking this game up soon after release but i'll still be playing the crap out of dark souls. However, if Dragon's Dogma had co-op it would have been a day one for me no questions asked. Whoever it was that decided that this game shouldn't have co-op and went for the pawn system should be fired cause this game could have been the dark souls for capcom.

They worked on this game for the entire cycle of this generation and i'm afraid all that hard work will be for not because of the down right stupid choice not to include co-op. I'm 99.9% sure that if co-op was in this game with classes diversity being a must against a hard PvE it would have made millions of more dollars compared to it now being at risk of a failed investment.

This game has so much potential i just hope its not a total waste.

I'm glad it doesn't have co-op and multi player in general, not every game needs such a thing. It would have taken away a lot of the resources for the single player. It's good that they've focused on the single player. We need more single player focused games, not less. Instead of dismissing the game as a 'failure' because it won't cater to the COD/Halo crowd who keep demanding such a pointless feature and are catered to far too often - like the boring multi player slapped onto Mass Effect 3 and other titles having a pointless multi player slapped on just to market to the COD/Halo crowd, why not actually play the game for yourself and form your own opinion by playing the game? Rent it out if you're not sure about buying it, but don't dismiss it just because it doesn't have an unneeded multi player slapped on where it isn't needed.

well i knew it not having multiplayer from the get go, but i'm sure if it had it it would have been an instant hit like monster hunter or dark souls. And just because something has mulitplayer doesn't mean it caters to cod/halo fans. Think of dark souls, thats like the holy grail of what i'm talking about. Any child just can't pick up dark souls multiplayer and kick ass.

You have to plan out your character and know what the hell you are doing to get good. I've played 200 hours of dark souls and i'm finally kicking ass in PvP and its a very rewarding feeling. So, you can't just dismiss multipalyer like that. When you have a game like dark souls having multiplayer it makes dam sure you spend a lot of time getting the equipment and skills need to be effective. Now with multiplayer aside, i can appreciate a great signal player game if it doesn't have online features.

I loved skyirm even with all the hate it gets over the internet but that was a game dedicated to signal player only yet it still catered to the casual crowed unlike Morrowind. Now, it seems from some early reviews that dragon's dogma signal player aspect is really watered down from the quest, the story and the main hook, the pawn system.

Thus, from my statement we can conclude that just because a game focus just on singal player doesn't mean it will be epic, skyrim cause in point. And just because a game includes some online actions, doesn't mean it negates singal player, dark souls is case in point. And to use ME3's online co-op is just an example of one devs lazy attempt at a good online co-op but does not entail every devs attempt, again, dark souls. Ah well, worst case is i get to play dark souls for 1000 hours as i plan to lol. I was just hoping dragon's dogma was going to be skyrim/dark souls hybrid as many people were making it out to be and early signs indicate it wont. However, i'll be watching it closely to see what the community at large views it and not just by some reviewers.

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Dragon's Dogma sux because even though the demo and none of the many hours of gameplay vids have shown any real glitches or bugs beyond some minor graphical ones, it's "unpolished" Skyrim is teh best because although it is a glitched out bugged filled nightmare with backwards dragons, broken quests, and busted bookshelves (not to mention many graphical errors) it's totally "polished".
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Dragon's Dogma sux because even though the demo and none of the many hours of gameplay vids have shown any real glitches or bugs beyond some minor graphical ones, it's "unpolished" Skyrim is teh best because although it is a glitched out bugged filled nightmare with backwards dragons, broken quests, and busted bookshelves (not to mention many graphical errors) it's totally "polished".sneaky_khajiit
is English your second language or are you young?
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It was meant to mock the fact that most folks who make this backwards argument are mostly young kids. Sigh, sarcasm failed I suppose.
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I played the demo just yesterday. I had fun :)
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Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.Smokescreened84

So your favorite games to play are the ones that aren't very good, that's fine.

I don't have the luxury to play *(@#&* my time is too important.

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Individual preferences, not everyone is going to like the same thing just because high ratings, a big name and fan boy hype demands them to.

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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.Jaysonguy

So your favorite games to play are the ones that aren't very good, that's fine.

I don't have the luxury to play *(@#&* my time is too important.

You mean your time is too important to play games you actually enjoy and you must instead only play highly rated games? I know that's not what you're saying, but that's smokescreen's point; it's entertainment, a hobby, a damned pastime, the whole reason to play games is to have fun. Whether Rockstar games are well made is another point. My sister plays farmville all the damned time - I think the game is a @#$% waste of time, but she loves the crap out of it and isn't ashamed of it. In the end, whether something lives up to someone's arbitrary standards, as long as people enjoy it, it has real value.
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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.

You are misusing the term "gut feeling". What you are describing is whether or not you enjoy the game and the reasons why. That is fine and it's your opinion, but don't keep saying your gut is kicking in while playing a game for a long while. It just doesn't make sense. That being said, hating or liking a game cause you can or can not play as a male or female character is pretty shallow. MOST games have you playing as a white male. If you judge games based on that your selection will be quite limited.
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It should be interesting to see if it does (flop), but I think it'll do alright review wise from what I've seen. It wouldn't surprise me if some reviewers didn't like it, like the two that you referenced, but I 'm thinking that many sites will give it "good" scores on average.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, but c'mon, the demo was pretty darn cool! It seemed great to me, but yeah, a demo's just a demo.

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I had no interest in this game. I decided to play the demo after those who had played it said how good it was. I really didn't like the demo. The game is even worse than I though it'd be. The full game might have some improvements (a proper 16:9 aspect ratio and v-sync would be a good start) but I doubt it.
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The Witcher 2 is the best RPG this year
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I just tried the demo, I enjoyed it, I would have liked to have walked around a little though.
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I was looking forward to it, but I cancelled my pre-order after playing the demo

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I played the demo a couple days ago and I didn't find it very fun.

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Considering I don't like the genre to begin with, I was going to pass on this anyway.

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The game isn't some dumbed down shooter rehash, so of course it would be too complicated for those who want their hands held all the way from beginning to end, who want to run around shooting things and who don't want to think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' I'm going with my gut feeling for the game, and the gut feeling is that I'm going to enjoy the game a lot. And that gut feeling has never let me down. I don't pay attention, nor care, about the reviews from 'professionals' who regard boring junk like Rockstar's games as incredible and the yearly shooter rehashes as the greatest thing ever. I'll just follow my heart and my gut feeling instead. It's more reliable.Smokescreened84

You can't be serious :lol:

You honestly sound like someone who had high hopes for this game and feels like it may be a flop, and is now reaching to justify purchasing it anyway. You act like big review sites only appreciate Rockstar games and popular shooter titles, which is just plain laughable.

I'm sure you'll be playing Dragon's Dogma for the 10th time, still searching for your justification of purchase, when we're all sinking our teeth into GTA5.

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I'm more interested in Dragon's Dogma than anything else, very little has interested me this year. So far only Kingdoms Of Amalur - which I like, Mass Effect 3 - which I like for the most part and Dragon's Dogma have caught my attention in full this year. Everything else either has no interest at all to me, or has a slight bit of interest for me but not very much. I have no desire to only go for games like Rockstar's games just because the name is popular. I find those games boring beyond words and I doubt that will ever change. The same with the considerable amount of shooters that are coming out and have been released. I have no interest in the yearly shooter rehashes, no interest in the sports rehashes, no interest in any movie licence games. Dragon's Dogma interests me and I'll be buying it happily, I want to.
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11 of 14 reviews are at 79% or higher.

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#32 ztg360
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I am interested by it although I would disagree with you that rockstar games are boring...they practically invented the open world game. I am not a cod fan either but I pity you for only finding those three interesting when there are more games than those out that are great but to each his own I guess.

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meh, i love the demo and will buy it day 1....couldnt really care what critics say

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i dont care about reviews
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Will have to try! before i decide its a flop.

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#36 JayQproductions
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and it should, it's made by crapcom.

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#37 Megaflush24
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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.Jaysonguy

So your favorite games to play are the ones that aren't very good, that's fine.

I don't have the luxury to play *(@#&* my time is too important.

Purely an opinion... If your time is too important, then why waste your time commenting on this... Unless of course it is important to you to tell someone that they like playing bad games. I am excited for dragons dogma. I like how the night is realistic... And you can only see with a torch
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#38 firefox59
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Rockstar's games bore me, my gut feeling never kicked in for those. I tried them, hated them and I now refuse to ever play them again since they tend to be too much of the same - uninteresting male lead only, lack of fun, boring stories, boring game play. The gut feeling tends to kick in the most with open world or near to open world or linear, but long lasting games that allow for playing as female - rare that they are and I only like to play as female. With male lead only games the gut feeling doesn't kick in and I know to avoid the game since it will have nothing of enjoyment.Megaflush24

So your favorite games to play are the ones that aren't very good, that's fine.

I don't have the luxury to play *(@#&* my time is too important.

Purely an opinion... If your time is too important, then why waste your time commenting on this... Unless of course it is important to you to tell someone that they like playing bad games. I am excited for dragons dogma. I like how the night is realistic... And you can only see with a torch

But you have magic. Why not create some kind of light source. It shouldn't be - night hits = so you basically die now.
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#39 Smokescreened84
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There are spells that can light up the area, but the effect is short lived. Using the lamp and making sure you have plenty of oil is a helpful thing to do from what I've seen. Once night hits the games becomes a little like Resident Evil, back when Resident Evil was good and not just another shooter series, when the undead rise and overwhelm you.