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#1 RebornInFlames
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I haven't played Halo 3 in a while, so I was surprised to find that every single playlist but social slayer is tied to the Mythic map pack.

Am I the only one that thinks this is horribly blatant extortion? I paid 60 bucks for the bloody game plus more for the legendary map packs and yet I am expected to cough up another $10 in order to play the game modes the disc came with? NFW, that is complete crap.

I really think that an injuction could be filed to separate the playlists from the DLC, anyone else agree?

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#2 Darkslayer16
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Stop being so cheap and just buy them. You complain but what if you owned them and none of the playlists were tied to mythic? Then you would just whine about that.

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#3 _SOULtoSQUEEZE_
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yeah i think its bogus that you cant play ranked games if you dont have every map pack. its stupid

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#4 _SOULtoSQUEEZE_
Member since 2007 • 1495 Posts

Stop being so cheap and just buy them. You complain but what if you owned them and none of the playlists were tied to mythic? Then you would just whine about that.

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atleast they could do it like cod4, where whenever a game with a map you dont have comes up you just cant play that game. but to just not be able to play any of the ranked game modes, even if the game is on a map you already own, is just retarded.
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#6 Tezcatlipoca666
Member since 2006 • 7241 Posts

Well you obviously can sue Bungie however it is true that they are being cheap bastards with the restrictions. It is entirely possible to have access to all lists (save perhaps a few) without all the map packs. CoD4 does it, you can play any of the online game modes whether you have the map pack or not. I don't know if they will keep this system for MW2 but w/e.

This is just a case of Bungie trying to force people into spending another $30 on a game they already paid for.

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#7 MissMorphine
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actually i agree with you. if i couldnt play RB/GH online bc i dont have new SONGS i would be UBER mad. actually i remeber something like that happening with GRAW2 sometimes i couldnt join friends game bc i dont own the DLC. and i got mad.

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#8 MaddenBowler10
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i just find it weird that how before these map packs came out, you could play all these game modes. wasn't that what was advertised? now you have to pay more to play, which is very bogus.
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#9 a55a55inx
Member since 2004 • 4188 Posts

i'm pretty sure that it's a Microsoft thing not Bungie. This never happened in Halo 2 (when Bungie owned the Halo license)

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#10 cthecoffee
Member since 2003 • 1432 Posts

so i take it you wont be buying ODST on launch day.

btw your topic name is missleading, i came here thinking i would get a laugh.

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#11 chaoscougar1
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hahahahahaha good luck
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#12 craigalan23
Member since 2006 • 15879 Posts
hahahahahaha good luckchaoscougar1
He can do it they don't have an army of lawyers. :P
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#13 Flairlend_l337
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ODST...thats all

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#14 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]hahahahahaha good luckcraigalan23
He can do it they don't have an army of lawyers. :P

not yet haha but they definately have the funds to, plus im sure microsoft wouldnt mind sparing a few
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#15 hawksie
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Make sure to keep us updated on your lawsuit

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#16 RebornInFlames
Member since 2006 • 1192 Posts

so i take it you wont be buying ODST on launch day.

btw your topic name is missleading, i came here thinking i would get a laugh.

cthecoffee
well I was going to originally but now I don't know. Even if I was, I still wouldn't be able to play ranked or rumble pit or anything else until Sep 22
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#17 Smitticus
Member since 2005 • 20519 Posts
If you love the game buy it. If you don't buy another .. if you're carefull .. next time don't follow the hype and read up on a game before you buy
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#18 WeaponXY
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Good luck with that.

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#20 kozzy1234
Member since 2005 • 35966 Posts

It kind of sucks yes, but you will NOT win at sueing M$ over something like this (a playlist or two).

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#21 RebornInFlames
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If you love the game buy it. If you don't buy another .. if you're carefull .. next time don't follow the hype and read up on a game before you buy Smitticus
Read up on a game before you buy? Do you even read the things you type before you post them? Yeah I don't remember a press release that said "Halo 3: Finish the Fight, At Least Until We Release Maps Then We Shall Disable Half The Game's Features"
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#22 RebornInFlames
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It kind of sucks yes, but you will NOT win at sueing M$ over something like this (a playlist or two).

kozzy1234
I think it is a clear-cut case of consumer rights violation. I mean what if you bought a DVD and it stopped working after two months unless you buy the director's cut? This is absolute unmitigated BS and they should have their eyes sued out or their studios firebombed.
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#23 BLAS1AN
Member since 2003 • 3508 Posts

micro$oft is to blame not bungie. its upsetting that this may be the new trend in gaming

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#24 KC_Hokie
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I stay away from anything Halo and have been happy.
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#25 RebornInFlames
Member since 2006 • 1192 Posts

micro$oft is to blame not bungie. its upsetting that this may be the new trend in gaming

BLAS1AN
I think filing an injunction against Bungie might (looooong shot) be effective as it is not the publisher that makes the playlists although I'm sure it was MS's idea. Bungie still has control over the playlists I think.
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#26 Shmiity
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Please don't be like every other jerk who sues people for every little thing...

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#27 RebornInFlames
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Please don't be like every other jerk who sues people for every little thing...

Shmiity
Please don't be like every other moron who lets companies piss on their customers after taking their money...
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#28 Shmiity
Member since 2006 • 6625 Posts

OH NOOOOOOOOO

You know your going to spend about 1000% more money on lawyers then just spending 10$ on maps right

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#29 sirkibble2
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LOL What in the world would you get from suing them? It certainly wouldn't be any monetary gain.
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#30 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Please don't be like every other jerk who sues people for every little thing...

RebornInFlames

Please don't be like every other moron who lets companies piss on their customers after taking their money...

You are right, i bought the maps but it is bull, they should make a mythic playlist..

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#31 RebornInFlames
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OH NOOOOOOOOO

You know your going to spend about 1000% more money on lawyers then just spending 10$ on maps right

Shmiity
Yes I do but that is not the point. You sound like you are a child so I'm not expecting you to understand. If I am successful I can recoup some legal expenses anyway.
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#32 sirkibble2
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

OH NOOOOOOOOO

You know your going to spend about 1000% more money on lawyers then just spending 10$ on maps right

RebornInFlames
Yes I do but that is not the point. You sound like you are a child so I'm not expecting you to understand. If I am successful I can recoup some legal expenses anyway.

He may sound like a child but you sound like a fool.
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#33 RebornInFlames
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LOL What in the world would you get from suing them? It certainly wouldn't be any monetary gain. sirkibble2
An injunction is not for monetary gain. An injunction's goal is to halt improper business practices. And seriously, sirkibble, how can you possibly disagree with me? I understand you may not like Halo but if this is allowed to continue you will have to buy every map pack for every game and that is something no one wants.

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#34 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

OH NOOOOOOOOO

You know your going to spend about 1000% more money on lawyers then just spending 10$ on maps right

LOL What in the world would you get from suing them? It certainly wouldn't be any monetary gain. sirkibble2
You guys are missing his point. Its not about $10, its about a shady business practice, and mistreating your player base. The OP is obviously not gonna sue MS, but he has a right to complain about this. I think its bunk too, good thing I moved away from Halo a while ago...:P
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#35 Shmiity
Member since 2006 • 6625 Posts

I am under 18, yes, but at least Im not some dumbass who is suing Bungie over an 8$ map pack..

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#36 sirkibble2
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I'm not missing the point. It's just a stupid way to go about the subject. Just say "Bungie's ripping us off" or something.
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#37 RebornInFlames
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I'm not missing the point. It's just a stupid way to go about the subject. Just say "Bungie's ripping us off" or something. sirkibble2
Look the only way to get anything done in this country is with lawyers. What, you think if you're vocal enough MS and Bungie will care? But seriously, you are all acting like this is some indominable force here. I'm sure there are numerous commerce codes that can be cited in this sort of situation, and I do recall a fat lady recovering $2 million from McDonalds cause she spilled coffee on herself. All I want is TO PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME I PAID 70 BUCKS FOR!!!!!!!!

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#38 sirkibble2
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So play the game.

You can play Lone Wolves, Squad Battle (Heroic Maps are free), MLG, Team Snipers, Social Slayer and Social Skirmish. Enjoy your game.
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#39 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

It kind of sucks yes, but you will NOT win at sueing M$ over something like this (a playlist or two).

RebornInFlames

I think it is a clear-cut case of consumer rights violation. I mean what if you bought a DVD and it stopped working after two months unless you buy the director's cut? This is absolute unmitigated BS and they should have their eyes sued out or their studios firebombed.

Go ahead and try to sue man, but I am 99% sure you will not win.

Yes it sucks what M$ has done, and I agree its a big pain in the butt, but this is something that happens. Save your money dude, lawyers are not cheap.

I wish they would have jsut left it how it was before, with ONE MYSTIC playlist, instead of all of them. That was the best imo.

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#40 BLAS1AN
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[QUOTE="sirkibble2"]I'm not missing the point. It's just a stupid way to go about the subject. Just say "Bungie's ripping us off" or something. RebornInFlames

Look the only way to get anything done in this country is with lawyers. What, you think if you're vocal enough MS and Bungie will care? But seriously, you are all acting like this is some indominable force here. I'm sure there are numerous commerce codes that can be cited in this sort of situation, and I do recall a fat lady recovering $2 million from McDonalds cause she spilled coffee on herself. All I want is TO PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME I PAID 70 BUCKS FOR!!!!!!!!

I admit I'm a Halo fanboy but I agree with how you feel. I feel like all the maps were witheld just so they can release the rest for extra profits. after making millions off the game sales I feel like M$ should have appreciated the fans and let us have the maps free. do petitions work?

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#41 RebornInFlames
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So play the game.

You can play Lone Wolves, Squad Battle (Heroic Maps are free), MLG, Team Snipers, Social Slayer and Social Skirmish. Enjoy your game. sirkibble2

F**k that, that's under half the playlists. If I can't play ranked team, big battle, rumble pit, Swat, or my legendary DLC, the game is broken. If Gears suddenly forced you to cough up for their maps, or be forced to stay in KotH and Warzone, there would be a massive outcry. But of course Halo's fanbase thinks Bungie can do no wrong so they get away with this crap.

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#42 rp108
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I think it is lame but suing Bungie is more lame. Also, if you want to play multiplayer wouldn't you want the maps anyway? It seems to me that getting more maps is a good thing.

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#44 Legolas_Katarn
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It sucks, and is just another reason for me to hate Halo 3's online.
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#45 BigBadBully
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Hey Bungie call up Treyarch, I can play all the game modes without having to buy the extra maps for Call of Duty:World at War.

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#46 codezer0
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Stop being so cheap and just buy them. You complain but what if you owned them and none of the play-lists were tied to mythic? Then you would just whine about that.

Darkslayer16
No. It's stupid to require a pay-for update. If anything the game's server and client-side thing should be updated so that you're only allowed into playlists featuring maps that you do have, WITHOUT requiring a player to then HAVE to buy a map just so they can keep playing.
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#47 aero250
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You vs Bungie and MS errr don't bother.
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#48 codezer0
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i'm pretty sure that it's a Microsoft thing not Bungie. This never happened in Halo 2 (when Bungie owned the Halo license)

a55a55inx
Uh, yes, it did happen there too. While I still had Halo 2, the game DEMANDED that I download the extra map packs that had since been released. Problem was, not all of them were free. There was still one that was marked for $4 USD for download. And even though all the Halo fail-bots here would say "uh, it should be free", it refused to let me download it. And it then also refused to let me play any and all online modes (both ranked and social) because I didn't have that last map pack. And you couldn't use MS points for it either, because I did have some spare points left before and it wouldn't use them either. No... this harks back to when you were required to join a credit card to an Xbox Live account. And thus, was the moment I decided to say **** this **** and got rid of my copy of Halo 2. Seeing Bungie do the same **** with Halo 3 doesn't surprise me, but it's sad that there are so many fanboys now that they can get away with it.
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#49 mohfrontline
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yea this pisses me off. Are they even allowed to do this? I just wanna play team slayer, but nope, I have to fork out yet another 10 bucks on the game. Gears 2 doesn't do this, COD4 doesn't do this, so why is Halo 3? Are they desperate for money?
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#50 mohfrontline
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So play the game.

You can play Lone Wolves, Squad Battle (Heroic Maps are free), MLG, Team Snipers, Social Slayer and Social Skirmish. Enjoy your game. sirkibble2
what about the only two game modes I play: doubles and ranked team slayer. I am not allowed to play them anymore.