The ring of death maybe your fault!

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#1 rodd76dog
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The ring of death is cause by several things. One major thing is Surge protectors. Due to the constant power needed for the xbox360 your surge protector may cause a slight drop in voltage and amps. Remember the resistance of most surge protectors causes a drop in amps and voltage. If you guys read your manuals before using it, it will state that. Plug your xbox360 directly into the wall, that is all you must do. Think, would you plug a back-up generator into a surge protector. Remember regulation of power is done by the power supply not a surge protector, but when the surge protector arks due to the contacts inside there you go RING of Death. Man I will not get started on those External fan connections, the same principle applies. That is why microsoft havent endorsed such a stupid idea. Those products are for people that just dont know. Products are built to specs so you dont need extra cooling products. The second major thing is heat. If you put anything in a non air circulating, cabinet it will get hot and function improperly. Give it space and free air. Mine never gets hot and I put 8hours almost daily on it for over a year. Knock on wood. AND knowing is half the battle.
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#2 skeeter1255
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well mine just died this week ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! but anyways i dontthink its the problem i mean yes i did have it on a srge protector but it tool a whole year to kill it? thats waht i i dont understand, and now i have to send it and be away from my baby.!!!
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#3 SapSacPrime
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Your post was border line unreadable, but I wanted to post because I read a while back on gamefaq's that the problem with the 360 was actually related to the GPU or its heatsink using very cheap clamps which can't take the heat. I recall a lot of people, just out of warranty I would imagine, managed to actually fix theirs up and the system ran better than ever. The information is not hard at all to find, but you may need to be brave and take a screw driver and a soldering iron to your 360 :P.
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#4 gamerfreak13
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Fought? or fault? Anyway, I agree with what you said, even though you can do everything right and still just have a faulty console.
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#5 searoscoe
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Remember this is the Micro we're talking about. They NEVER EVER WORK ALL THE BUGS OUT. Much of the time it's not you it them.
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#6 Fredrick2003x
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My 360 is in a wide open area and plugged directly into a wall (everybody who has it plugged into a surge protector is a moron anyway).

I also did not mess with any of those third party products.

Yet after 1 year of playing my 360 died.

It isn't anyones fault, they just break.

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#7 PlaTiNuM24k
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The surge protector has nothing to do with it unless you have alot of high powered devices attached to it such as a computer and all the periphrials. I have been using one for the life of my 360 and notihng has gone wrong, i learned about the intercooler problems and took that thing off so yeah, i think thats just a little too farfetched
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#8 online-predator
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almost unreadable . yet that surge protecter thing is wrong. as is you spelling .
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#9 Talldude80
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almost unreadable . yet that surge protecter thing is wrong. as is you spelling .online-predator

I am not really sure the surge protector theory is that true. but i think I will plug my power brick thing into the wall directly just in case. It's not likely to hurt.

BTW, you said "protecter"? You mean protector, that was one of the words the first post got correct. Can't people just use the "ABC" button to do spell check? GEEZ!Ha ha!Just messin!

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#10 jinx-93
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what is asurge protecter?
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#11 killerfist
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Remember this is the Micro we're talking about. They NEVER EVER WORK ALL THE BUGS OUT. Much of the time it's not you it them.searoscoe

true. for them it takes 5 years before they cleared all the bugs. I mean look at XP when it was released and look at it now. It still isnt 100% without problems. Look at Windows 2000/ME edition back in the day and look at it now. lol W2000 is now the strongest and safest on the market after almost 10 years.

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The surge protector has nothing to do with it unless you have alot of high powered devices attached to it such as a computer and all the periphrials. I have been using one for the life of my 360 and notihng has gone wrong, i learned about the intercooler problems and took that thing off so yeah, i think thats just a little too farfetchedPlaTiNuM24k

Ummm like a bigscreen TV, and a hometheatre system perhaps? I fried one quick on a surge protector, next one has been cherry since taking it off. As for plugging a backupgenerator into anything...ummm no, no I would not. I would generally prefer to use the electricity that motor is creating to power other things :)

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#13 xxmystakalxx
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My 360 is in a wide open area and plugged directly into a wall (everybody who has it plugged into a surge protector is a moron anyway).

Fredrick2003x

areu serious?

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#14 rodd76dog
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sorry for the bad spelling. I fixed it for you guys that didnt understand it.
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#15 teebeenz
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The 360 itself isnt designed to handle dirty power, but even a surge protector shouldn't mess with any of that.
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#16 rodd76dog
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If you guys dont understand me call microsoft and they will tell you the same thing. They have found out that alot people are also trying to make there xbox get the ring of death just for a newer model. But look for the ones that called the xbox a bad system, think if you had the choice to get the system with a one year warranty and work fine, Or a three year with possible problems the first year. I will take the 3years over anything. look after the first year and your system brakes your out of luck.
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#17 rodd76dog
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The 360 itself isnt designed to handle dirty power, but even a surge protector shouldn't mess with any of that.teebeenz
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#18 woody411
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what if you have one of those monster surge protectors.are you still not supposed to plug it in to it?
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#19 mhrnw
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I think that you might be right, but the ring of death isn't solely caused by this. If it was then why would Microsoft make changes to their hardware for newer models. Probably because it's faulty. Older models will break no matter what you do or how you have them plugged in.
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#20 clyde46
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ive got mine plugged into a standard extenstion plank, the reason for this is because there are only 1 dual plug socket in my room. is that bad?
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#21 CrazyAzza
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orry if im being a bit stupid here but will the same thing ( ROD ) happen if your xbox is running of an extension lead?

:question:

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#22 Picky1999
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Not True.

Mine died after 8 months of being plugged into the wall socket only. No surge protector was used in the destruction of this Xbox 360.

I got a refurb in exactly a month though.

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The surge protector has nothing to do with it unless you have alot of high powered devices attached to it such as a computer and all the periphrials. I have been using one for the life of my 360 and notihng has gone wrong, i learned about the intercooler problems and took that thing off so yeah, i think thats just a little too farfetchedPlaTiNuM24k
I've had my 360 plugged into a surge protector for almost two years. I've never had any problems either. It's a fact the RRoD is caused by overheating and MS using cheap parts to make the 360.
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#24 Reaper123456
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LOL, So not true this thread. As a construction manager I can tell you the the socket that the surge protecter is connected to will have no different effect than a direct wall connection.

Surge protecters regulate that electricity does not exceed the wall socket value of 110v 15 amps, anything above that it cuts off.Anything within that value and nothing will change.

Theoretically you can have a drain on a 110v 15amp socket of about 2000 watts an hour on 1 breaker. Meaning that you 205w xbox360 a "1000W Home Theater"Which really use around 375 watts a 50" TV which use up say 400 w and presto you have 980 w usage maybe have a dvd player, a vcr a satalitte box a cable box a modem some lamps and you will not exceed 200 watts on those taking you up to 1180 watts leaving 820 watts to be used before you experience power drain on the circuit or cause the breaker to trip. That will cause you xbox360 to theoretically breakdown, but the surge protecter has nothing to do with it. If Anything It prevents startup spikes in electricity getting to your 360. Anyways it is on an ac circuit which is a surge protecter in itself.

As I would like to say.

You have been owned.

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LOL, So not true this thread. As a construction manager I can tell you the the socket that the surge protecter is connected to will have no different effect than a direct wall connection.

Surge protecters regulate that electricity does not exceed the wall socket value of 110v 15 amps, anything above that it cuts off.Anything within that value and nothing will change.

Theoretically you can have a drain on a 110v 15amp socket of about 2000 watts an hour on 1 breaker. Meaning that you 205w xbox360 a "1000W Home Theater"Which really use around 375 watts a 50" TV which use up say 400 w and presto you have 980 w usage maybe have a dvd player, a vcr a satalitte box a cable box a modem some lamps and you will not exceed 200 watts on those taking you up to 1180 watts leaving 820 watts to be used before you experience power drain on the circuit or cause the breaker to trip. That will cause you xbox360 to theoretically breakdown, but the surge protecter has nothing to do with it. If Anything It prevents startup spikes in electricity getting to your 360. Anyways it is on an ac circuit which is a surge protecter in itself.

As I would like to say.

You have been owned.

Reaper123456

i thought the idea of a surge protector was to protect the stuff plugged into it, not break them.

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#26 rodd76dog
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listen, surge protectors are wall outlet extensions with relays. If I wanted more money from you and you didnt have it you would need to separate the amount you have to a point. Your wall outlet has two sockets for a reason. Have you ever tried to plug a floor heater into one with your tv connected, it will cut off. You must have a real expensive surge protector to protect different voltage regulated items. Listen people call Microsoft and they will tell you not to plug it into a surge protector. Please forget these guys and me, call and get the right answers. They know there product.
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#27 knicknut17
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^^ Thank you for clarifying this with us. The notion that a surge protector would kill the Xbox 360 has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Seriously...if the surge protector is the reason for the Xbox 360 dying, then let the damn thing die. Did anyone ever stop to think that Microsoft is a SOFTWARE company? And yes, they do make crappy hardware, hence the reason 1 in 3 owners' 360s die on them.

RROD my fault? Nonsense...I don't consider it to be a coincidence that the only consoles that have ever broken down on me in my entire life are Microsoft consoles. I've been gaming for the last 20 years...

I use a Mac so I can't really play many PC games. The Xbox 360 allows me to play a lot of those games. Hence the reason I own one to compliment my PS3.

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#28 rodd76dog
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surge protectors protect your products from surges, not uncondition voltage. Surges such as tunderstorms, power surges and line shortages.
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#29 rodd76dog
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I said ONE of the reasons
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#30 EnderSR388
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Mine was never plugged into a surge protector and I got the RROD. Also, the only fans that would work are ones that use the USB ports, since they get their power AFTER the 360 does.
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#31 rodd76dog
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If you needed a fan, it seems your xbox was getting to hot. Alot of times all you do is circulate heat not cool it off. To really cool it off you need a internal fan blowing the heat out not air in.
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#32 rodd76dog
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yes
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#33 solo4321
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i dont think thats the problem i have mine plugged in the wall and it broke down on me twice hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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#35 EnderSR388
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[QUOTE="rodd76dog"]The ring of death is cause by several things. One major thing is Surge protectors. Due to the constant power needed for the xbox360 your surge protector may cause a slight drop in voltage and amps. Remember the resistance of most surge protectors causes a drop in amps and voltage. If you guys read your manuals before using it, it will state that. Plug your xbox360 directly into the wall, that is all you must do. Think, would you plug a back-up generator into a surge protector. Remember regulation of power is done by the power supply not a surge protector, but when the surge protector arks due to the contacts inside there you go RING of Death. Man I will not get started on those External fan connections, the same principle applies. That is why microsoft havent endorsed such a stupid idea. Those products are for people that just dont know. Products are built to specs so you dont need extra cooling products. The second major thing is heat. If you put anything in a non air circulating, cabinet it will get hot and function improperly. Give it space and free air. Mine never gets hot and I put 8hours almost daily on it for over a year. Knock on wood. AND knowing is half the battle.PS3Dude33

No, 360 hardware just sucks. I've always plugged my PS3 and PS2 into a surge proctector with no problems. And I keep my PS3 inside of an entertainment center cabinet not on top of an ice cooler with a fan blowing directly on it. 360 is just a piece of crap hardware. own up to it.

Where do you plug your troll night light??