The secrets to avoiding the 3 RROD

I notice how many people who consider buying a 360 are scared of a breakdown. Here are some tips to not become a part of the very minor minority who happen to get the RROD.

I have had my 360 for about a year and a half. Ive left the console running for hours at a time and sometimes overnight by accident. Ive also consistently turned it off and on when obssesively compulsively checking out different games and DVD's at a time and have one time dropped it from 3 feet high in the back of my van.

I have not faced the RROD. How is this possible? I guess part of it is luck. But I would say that the significant majority of it is basically the atmosphere my system is in.

First I have it sitting in a spacious area. My friend had his 360 for about 3 months before he got the RROD, I say its because he put it in such a tight compartment of his entertainment stand that it harboured the heat the console was radiating when playing excessively.

Also, pace yourself when gaming, a few hours at a time. Don't go overboard.

It ain't hard folks I can guarantee you more than half the people who got the RROD either left the console running too long or just the fact that it may be in a tight space and overtime that can stress the system out.

Anyone else who would like to contribute a tip is more than welcome. I know I was nervous about the RROD but not anymore.

I notice how many people who consider buying a 360 are scared of a breakdown. Here are some tips to not become a part of the very minor minority who happen to get the RROD.

I have had my 360 for about a year and a half. Ive left the console running for hours at a time and sometimes overnight by accident. Ive also consistently turned it off and on when obssesively compulsively checking out different games and DVD's at a time and have one time dropped it from 3 feet high in the back of my van.

I have not faced the RROD. How is this possible? I guess part of it is luck. But I would say that the significant majority of it is basically the atmosphere my system is in.

First I have it sitting in a spacious area. My friend had his 360 for about 3 months before he got the RROD, I say its because he put it in such a tight compartment of his entertainment stand that it harboured the heat the console was radiating when playing excessively.

Also, pace yourself when gaming, a few hours at a time. Don't go overboard.

It ain't hard folks I can guarantee you more than half the people who got the RROD either left the console running too long or just the fact that it may be in a tight space and overtime that can stress the system out.

Anyone else who would like to contribute a tip is more than welcome. I know I was nervous about the RROD but not anymore.

LivingReceiver

I'm sorry - but that's just not acceptable. If Microsoft didn't take the time to stress-test the console in an enclosed space, like a Entertainment center shelving unit, then it's a bad system. It should be a GIVEN that most people are going to store their consoles in an entertainment cabinet of some sort. Microsoft apparently didn't test the system in that type of enviornment and as a result they're spending millions of dollars in Repairs.

Hopefully the newer hardware, if it even exists, will solve the RROD problems.

You totally forgot to mention the absolute most important part to avoiding the RRoD: keeping the 360 horizontal. If you keep the 360 vertical it will stand on it's cooling intake vent and the vent will become useless thus causing the 360 to overheat and display the RRoD. Keeping it vertical will also make the disc drive more prone to scratch discs.

I can't believe Microsoft actually advertises the 360 as a vertically standing console, because if you do stand it vertically you will kill it.

Why should we, as consumers, even worry about what may eventually happen to our console?? When I invest in a $400 gaming console, I want to know that I could enjoy plenty of gaming hours without having the constant thought of my console dying on me at some point in it's life. I've had my 360 since December 2005 (couldn't find one at launch) and have been lucky enough to have not experienced the RRoD but I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product. I've been an avid gamer for most of my life starting with my Sega Master system and still have consoles that are over a decade old that still work (my Sega Saturn/N64) and have played those machines for hours on end.

What i'am getting at is that it is pretty sad when a strategy is needed to ensure that our consoles will enjoy an average lifespan. I certainly hope Microsoft goes back to the research labs and invest in quality hardware next time they release a system because having good games can only get you so far; There's no point in investing in a ticking time bomb when all you want to do is play good games.

End rant

Thanks for reading

You totally forgot to mention the absolute most important part to avoiding the RRoD: keeping the 360 horizontal. If you keep the 360 vertical it will stand on it's cooling intake vent and the vent will become useless thus causing the 360 to overheat and display the RRoD. Keeping it vertical will also make the disc drive more prone to scratch discs.

I can't believe Microsoft actually advertises the 360 as a vertically standing console, because if you do stand it vertically you will kill it.

Rick_Dickland

Yea- that's just stupid on their part. They rushed their development and testing on the X360 and now it's coming back to hurt them.

It's a shame too - because it could be the best console on the market if not for these shortcomings.

Why should we, as consumers, even worry about what may eventually happen to our console?? When I invest in a $400 gaming console, I want to know that I could enjoy plenty of gaming hours without having the constant thought of my console dying on me at some point in it's life. I've had my 360 since December 2005 (couldn't find one at launch) and have been lucky enough to have not experienced the RRoD but I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product. I've been an avid gamer for most of my life starting with my Sega Master system and still have consoles that are over a decade old that still work (my Sega Saturn/N64) and have played those machines for hours on end.

What i'am getting at is that it is pretty sad when a strategy is need to ensure that our consoles will enjoy an average lifespan. I certainly hope Microsoft goes back to the research labs and invest in quality hardware next time they release a system because having good games can only get you so far; There's no point in investing in a ticking time bomb when all you want to do is play good games.

End rant

Thanks for reading

ray03314506

True but you have to remember they were in a rush to get it out before Sony got their PS3 out. In the end even if the 360's were having a problem everyone was and is still buying the console because the 360 has the games. They weren't going to take any chances, they got lucky either way.

I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product.

ray03314506

No console manufacturer in their right mind would ever do something like that (unfortunately). It would mean completely losing their foothold in the "console war".

[QUOTE="ray03314506"]

I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product.

Rick_Dickland

No console manufacturer in their right mind would ever do something like that (unfortunately). It would mean completely losing their foothold in the "console war".

yeah true. just put yourself in the place, no one wants to admit what might be just a minor issue to them into something big. They figured if they waited for the results of how people are actually having this problem they can confirm it. At the same time they are making money, unfortunately loosing it back giving the 3-year warranty. Although you do have to give M$ credit for extending such a warranty, but it replaces it with the fact that a $400 console shouldn't have this issue in the first place.

[QUOTE="ray03314506"]

Why should we, as consumers, even worry about what may eventually happen to our console?? When I invest in a $400 gaming console, I want to know that I could enjoy plenty of gaming hours without having the constant thought of my console dying on me at some point in it's life. I've had my 360 since December 2005 (couldn't find one at launch) and have been lucky enough to have not experienced the RRoD but I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product. I've been an avid gamer for most of my life starting with my Sega Master system and still have consoles that are over a decade old that still work (my Sega Saturn/N64) and have played those machines for hours on end.

What i'am getting at is that it is pretty sad when a strategy is need to ensure that our consoles will enjoy an average lifespan. I certainly hope Microsoft goes back to the research labs and invest in quality hardware next time they release a system because having good games can only get you so far; There's no point in investing in a ticking time bomb when all you want to do is play good games.

End rant

Thanks for reading

gokuofheaven

True but you have to remember they were in a rush to get it out before Sony got their PS3 out. In the end even if the 360's were having a problem everyone was and is still buying the console because the 360 has the games. They weren't going to take any chances, they got lucky either way.

Yes, they wanted to capture as big of a market share as they possible could before the PS3 launched but putting out an inferior product just to make it to market first is unacceptable. To me, the problem stems for an inability for the GPU to disperse heat which causes the Planar board to overheat which is never good for an electronic device. These are problems that are easily identified through stress tests and should've been resolved before the manufacturing process took place. Because of negligence on Microsoft's behalf, we are left with a ticking time bomb that has a good line of games but a very short life span.

BTW, I had some Albacore sushi the other day and it was amazing. Too bad it's really expensive.

Why? because you got the RROD you notice all the topics made about the RROD and you come to the conclusion that this is not a rare occurence? If you tally up all 360 owners and ones who got the RROD I GUARANTEE you the majority didn't have any problems. OR if you did get the RROD it's because it overheated after you binged on gaming while it sat on the radiatorLivingReceiver

[QUOTE="ray03314506"]

I'am extremely upset with Microsoft for not admitting that there is a fault with their product.

Rick_Dickland

No console manufacturer in their right mind would ever do something like that (unfortunately). It would mean completely losing their foothold in the "console war".

They've been downplaying the issue this entire time. They know there is a problem with their system and the three year warranty extension that they've implemented is proof of that. They don't want the bad PR that would ensue if they publicly came out and mentioned that their console is faulted.

[QUOTE="LivingReceiver"]Why? because you got the RROD you notice all the topics made about the RROD and you come to the conclusion that this is not a rare occurence? If you tally up all 360 owners and ones who got the RROD I GUARANTEE you the majority didn't have any problems. OR if you did get the RROD it's because it overheated after you binged on gaming while it sat on the radiatoratreyu27

The return rate for GameStop alone is over 35%, that is not including every other place that sells them. Also you are going to go low enough to blame the red ring on the consumer for over playing the system? That is sad, they should have made the system that can be played for hours at a time, just like every other system sense the Brown Box. I guess it is The 360 and not the PS3 that came out one year too soon.

It's a shame too - because it could be the best console on the market if not for these shortcomings.

Netherscourge

Microsoft would have to put quite a bit more into properly engineering the 360's hardware to make it the best console this generation, in terms of hardware. The 360 has really poor internal reinforcement, it has (or had) piss poor cooling solutions, it's got a wicked loud disc drive that is known for scratching discs, and it's power supply is pretty damn cheapo.

Where the 360 has a better selection of software at the moment, the PS3 is still the best console hardware on the market this generation. Sony really made sure that thing was a tank before shipping it. all of the vital components are reinforced in steel casings, the disc drive is about as silent as someone breathing, the power supply is completely internal, and it's cooling solution is a giant heatsink/fan combo. I know it's blasphemy saying something like that on a 360 forum but it's just the truth, it's not even my opinion.

it's just a matter of luck now. if it dies just get it fixed. let's hope M$ somehow extends the warranty longer than the 3 yrs, which is most likely not going to happen.gokuofheaven

more than 3 years is unessacary, who would give more than 3 years gurantee on a product for nothing. if ur console breaks after 3 years then its not the makers fault its just one of them thigns with electrical kit

it's just a matter of luck now. if it dies just get it fixed. let's hope M$ somehow extends the warranty longer than the 3 yrs, which is most likely not going to happen.gokuofheaven

more than 3 years is unessacary, who would give more than 3 years gurantee on a product for nothing. if ur console breaks after 3 years then its not the makers fault its just one of them thigns with electrical kit

I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.Shacks210

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

I don't know if there's really any way to quote-unquote "avoid it", I think it's just a matter of whether or not the system was faulty to begin with. From there, I believe it's only a matter of time.SocialAnXieTy

I think it is all "when will it happen". I have two friends with 360's. One plays it all the time non stop. The other plays probably 5 hours a day, if that and they both are on their 3rd system.

I don't know if there's really any way to quote-unquote "avoid it", I think it's just a matter of whether or not the system was faulty to begin with. From there, I believe it's only a matter of time.SocialAnXieTy

You don't have to type "quote-unquote" and then proceed to use a quote and an unquote. That's a bit redundant.

[QUOTE="atreyu27"][QUOTE="LivingReceiver"]Why? because you got the RROD you notice all the topics made about the RROD and you come to the conclusion that this is not a rare occurence? If you tally up all 360 owners and ones who got the RROD I GUARANTEE you the majority didn't have any problems. OR if you did get the RROD it's because it overheated after you binged on gaming while it sat on the radiatorShacks210

The return rate for GameStop alone is over 35%, that is not including every other place that sells them. Also you are going to go low enough to blame the red ring on the consumer for over playing the system? That is sad, they should have made the system that can be played for hours at a time, just like every other system sense the Brown Box. I guess it is The 360 and not the PS3 that came out one year too soon.

...i could have honestly waited too, because i didn't get the 360 until last summer. I was in no hurry. I waiting basically for the fact that i wanted to see if PS3 was going to have the games I wanted to play. In the end i ended up with the right choice but left with this issue that my 360 will die one day. Quite trouble-some.

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.ray03314506

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

The console is not well-made for consumers. Even the original Xbox was prone to problems..but it has the best games so it makes up for it. Its my opinion. I was thinking the same thing as you until you look around and it happens to A LOT of people. I know people that RARELY play on the console and it freezes and has gotten the RROD. Why are you standing up for it? It has the best games but it also has hardware problems for more than the "minority". Before you tell me that you "GUARANTEE" most people don't have problems actually get your facts straight and just ebcause it hasn't happend to you yet doesn't mean it won't happen bud.

[QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.atreyu27

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

[QUOTE="atreyu27"][QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.atreyu27

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

I am just stating facts, that is all.

[QUOTE="SocialAnXieTy"]I don't know if there's really any way to quote-unquote "avoid it", I think it's just a matter of whether or not the system was faulty to begin with. From there, I believe it's only a matter of time.Rick_Dickland

You don't have to type "quote-unquote" and then proceed to use a quote and an unquote. That's a bit redundant.

It was just for show...

I'm sorry I offended you? Egh.

[QUOTE="atreyu27"][QUOTE="atreyu27"][QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.Shacks210

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

I am just stating facts, that is all.

Facts to you.Why bother even posting because your sig tells everything of how you feel about the 360 LoL.

[QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.atreyu27

Go away TROLL. Your the most obvious I have ever seen..

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

what?...PS3 has what?...2 decent games that are exclusive?...the rest are on the 360 which i rather have. I just wish PS3 had better looking versions and more exclusives. Even though exclusives aren't the answer to everything...it sells the consoles. This is turning out to be system wars topic. /ends rant

[QUOTE="Rick_Dickland"]

[QUOTE="SocialAnXieTy"]I don't know if there's really any way to quote-unquote "avoid it", I think it's just a matter of whether or not the system was faulty to begin with. From there, I believe it's only a matter of time.SocialAnXieTy

You don't have to type "quote-unquote" and then proceed to use a quote and an unquote. That's a bit redundant.

It was just for show...

I'm sorry I offended you? Egh.

Guess he is picky? lol

[QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.Shacks210

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Judging from your sig, you are indeed trolling and you are a bit far from your PS3 bridge. Dead Rising, Oblivion, Ghost Recon, Condemned...The list can go on and on of quality games that were released before Gears but this is not the thread topic. I don't know why the PS3 comparisons always have to be made; this thread is about the reliability of the 360 and does not involve the PS3. If you've got a 360 and have an insight, please feel free to comment but if not, then please stop the trolling.

[QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.ray03314506

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Judging from your sig, you are indeed trolling and you are a bit far from your PS3 bridge. Dead Rising, Oblivion, Ghost Recon, Condemned...The list can go on and on of quality games that were released before Gears but this is not the thread topic. I don't know why the PS3 comparisons always have to be made; this thread is about the reliability of the 360 and does not involve the PS3. If you've got a 360 and have an insight, please feel free to comment but if not, then please stop the trolling.

Well said.

[QUOTE="ray03314506"][QUOTE="Shacks210"][QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.atreyu27

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

Judging from your sig, you are indeed trolling and you are a bit far from your PS3 bridge. Dead Rising, Oblivion, Ghost Recon, Condemned...The list can go on and on of quality games that were released before Gears but this is not the thread topic. I don't know why the PS3 comparisons always have to be made; this thread is about the reliability of the 360 and does not involve the PS3. If you've got a 360 and have an insight, please feel free to comment but if not, then please stop the trolling.

Well said.

[QUOTE="ray03314506"]

[QUOTE="Shacks210"]I don't think PS3 games has anything to do with it. It is all about price. The PS3 has plenty of games as good as the 360, some which are better. When they dropped the PS3 60gb model price it was out selling 360's everywhere. Everyone wants what is cheaper, and the hardware problems with the 360 shows how much cheaper the 360 really is.Shacks210

Let's not kid anyone. The PS3, almost in it's first year cycle, has only but a handful of good games. Price, quality, timing and games are the determining factors for the success of a game console. The 360's got all of them except for quality which is quite a shame.

Yes, lets not kid anyone, the 360 had garbage games until Gears Of War hit a year after launch, so the fact that the PS3 has a "hand full" of games in less then that should tell people that "no games" is a BS excuse used. PS3 has games, the quality of the system and games are better. The timing problem with Sony is games being pushed back, that is the only problem Sony has with games.

No good games until GeOW?!!

Ghost Recon AW

Oblivion

PGR 3

Viva Pinata

Dead or Alive 4

Condemned

PD0

Call of Duty 2

and a bunch more I cant remember, not to be argumentative, but your statement was flat out wrong