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#51 joe_anony
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"Hey man.. I am telling you... I just did it. Don't use a wet towel. I think this is the major issue.... When a 360 overheats, two red lights come on. You let it cool, and no problem. When 3 red lights come on its a general hardware failure. If you purposefully overheat it, maybe it tricks the CPU into believing the only problem was a heat one, so when you let it cool, and try to turn it on again, no problem. What I am trying to figure out, is what the actual problem is. The thing seems to work fine. Sure the red lights come on again eventually, but I have done the towel trick like 3 times now, with three successes. The machine boots up, and I can play any game, Xbox Live works fine, no problems with media streaming, I have sound.... Nothing. So whats the problem???"

Let me fill you (and the other guys here) in. This trick does SOMETIMES work, and the science behind it is logical. It has nothing to do with cooling it down or melting the solder. Some background. It is well known that the 360 is a pretty poorly made machine. I'm on my 3rd personally. The problem with the 360 is that the PCB (printed circuit board) material of the mainboard is not properly mounted onto the case. It is only secured at the corners. So you can think of it like a bedsheet with someone holding each corner; one can easily cause it to twist and bend near the center, since it has no support there. This is were the achilles heel of the xbox 360 lies. The heat generated by the 360, and the thermal stress of the machine turning on and off, warming up and cooling down, can cause the motherboard to warp and bend near the middle, particularly around the CPU and GPU chips. The result, then, is not melted solder, but disconnected solder, caused when the board literally bent away from the chips. (Many people assume that the 360 "overheats", or generates too much heat. This is actually not the case. The heat generated by the 360 is not unreasonable for a machine of its power, its just that the lack of support on the motherboard means that the machine cannot withstand normal operating temperatures. Seriously.) This is where the towel trick comes in. Basically, the trick consists of completely wrapping the 360 in a towel, covering all the exhaust vents, and then turning it on for at least fifteen minutes before turning it off for a half hour or so before use of the temporarily ressurected machine. How it works is simple. Heating the machine excessivly, which the towel trick definitly does, inflicts a tremendous amount of thermal stress on the board, which can (emphasis on can) cause it to warp back up to the chips and make contact again. This is not just theory; it really can work, and I've successfully done it twice. Unfortunatly, it is only temporary, and the best use of the trick is to keep it alive long enough to play while you wait for your M$ shipping box. On a side note, another poster mentioned an "X-clamp replacement". He is referring to the method by which the CPU and GPU heatsinks are fastened to the chips. Replacing them with a solution that bolts through to the case, rather than simply sitting on the motherboard like the stock X-clamp does, provides support for the center of the PCB and negates the warping problem altogether. Anyway, I hope I've helped some people understand exactly what the hell this towel trick is and how it works. For a more brief summary, check out the wikipedia page on 360 technical problems, to which I contributed. 8) Cheers!

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#52 RocklandUSA
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i can probably expect this to work....i mean think about all the other things that work and dont make sense!
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#53 joe_anony
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Um, it makes sense. Please read my above post.
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#54 trickazzmark
Member since 2005 • 463 Posts
dont do sumthing stupid like that. the hot air is not escapin. just put ur 360 next to an AC or a fan. works for me.
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#55 iMuffins
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lol i wouldnt if i were u. the 360 is already really hot..and im sure throwing a hot towel over it will just make it cool off right? totally. thers no reason i can see that would make this workchronogamer27

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#56 omegadrake25
Member since 2005 • 399 Posts

the towel trick indeed does work, its not permanent though. there are dozens of videos on youtube about this and im sure alot of forums u can find about this on google.

its not as simple as just throwing a towel on the 360 either...dont be ignorant

lastly...there are better solutions to fixing ur 3red light problemĀ 

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#57 Soupass1
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[QUOTE="chronogamer27"]lol i wouldnt if i were u. the 360 is already really hot..and im sure throwing a hot towel over it will just make it cool off right? totally. thers no reason i can see that would make this workiMuffins

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Youtube URL http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQĀ 

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#58 AL13NK1LL3R
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A better way to fix the three red lights is this: Right after your 360 freezes, quickly unplug it and put it into the microwave for 5-6 minutes (btw if your microwave has a "popcorn" setting, use that because it works best).Goldeneyemaster

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hahahaha :lol: oh my god that was HilariousĀ 

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#59 aws_2000us
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i did it on mine and it worked for about a week, but now i am going to send in my 360 for repairs but not tell them i did it so they will still do the replacement
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#60 blackdragn
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Wow, If you learn how to use a little Google, this topic wouldn't be needed. First off, the towel trick does indeed work. My 360 got 3 red lights 2 months ago, I used the towel trick and it's still kicking strong. You wrap it with two DRY towels. Not wet, not hot, not flaming, but DRY towels. Turn your 360 on for 10 minutes, turn it off and let it cool. This only works for people with hardware failure do to the GPU solder points having a weak connection. If you get 3 red lights, press the small connect button and then eject to get a code for the specific error. What the towel trick does is heat the solder points on the GPU to create a better connection. You can also use a hot air gun on the GPU. It is more effective but more dangerous to your console if you don't know what your doing. You all talk about warranty, but like many other people, when my 360 messed up it was 1 year and 5 months old. If you can fix it then why pay 130.00 to get MS to fix it :)
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#61 virusts32
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The funny is that it does work. I have launch 360 and in the last month it stopped working completely. So for about two weeks it sat there idle not working with the three rings.Ā SoĀ IĀ said screw it, turned it on, laid it on the ground, and wrapped it completely with a towel and let it sit for an hour. Unwrapped it and turned it off then on and it worked for about a week. Did again after week started to work again. It trick does work, but only temporary. It doesn't fix your 360.