Too Human REVIEWED - What a surprise!

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#1 Magebane
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Not.

6.75 from gameinformer...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330989

Is anyone surprised? I wonder how bad it'll hurt to have made a game for 10 years and then lose money on it?

I really wanted a Diablo-esque game again - so I DL'd D2 and will play that instead of this crapmonstrosity.

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#2 Aaron89
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I expected a score around 7.0 to begin with, so not surprising. Plus, this game hasn't been developed for a straight ten years -- it's been off and on (mostly off) for the entire time.
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#3 Hatefish2
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Yay I hope everyone is so satisfied that a game that has absolutely no ties to their life isn't getting good scores, congratulations guys!

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#4 torontomapleafs
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Good got what it deserves. Maybe this will make people realize the full game is no different from the demo.
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#5 dkdk999
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Not.

6.75 from gameinformer...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330989

Is anyone surprised? I wonder how bad it'll hurt to have made a game for 10 years and then lose money on it?

I really wanted a Diablo-esque game again - so I DL'd D2 and will play that instead of this crapmonstrosity.

Magebane
lol no im not surprised its so different and unique ive been telling people its gonna get some 8-9s then some 6-7s. i mean its gonna get a wide variety. previews show this. some previews were extremely posative some were very negative some were inbetween. and would people stop saying its been in devolopment for 10 years this version as a fact is its own and completely different versions then the ones before. not in anyway similar.
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#6 Magebane
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Who said I was happy? I felt let down when I played the demo, and yes I was being sarcastic about the surprise element - because of the demo.

I hope it's not Canadian pride thats fueling this defense for Too Human, is it!?

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#8 dkdk999
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Good got what it deserves. Maybe this will make people realize the full game is no different from the demo.torontomapleafs
your very wrong that was the first level and i thought it was quite fun.
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#9 Jaysonguy
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Wow a link to a forum about a summary of a review that wasn't in depth?

You can't beat journalism like that

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#10 Snowboarder99
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It's also been reviewed 3 other times in which it's scored a 93/100, a 5/5 and some AA score. All of which, including Gameinformer, are not very credible places. You are taking a score from the place that gave Kameo and Lair nearly the same score. So how about you wait for reviews from places such as Gametrailers, IGN, 1up and of course here. But I guess you're too much of a noob to enjoy this game anyways. Maybe if they added chainsaws...

And have you seen the amount of preorderes this game has? It will be just fine without you and Gameinformers opinion.

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#11 ronnet
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Plenty of threads about it so yeah not really a suprise...anymore. If you find something on the internet that is 5 minutes old then there is no point in posting it, especially not an active site like gamespot.

As for the score, Im a bit suprised since I thought the setting was going help give it an 8.0 but there are more reviews to come. For all we know its going to end up with an 8.5 average. Oen fo the biger magazines also rated GTA4 a 7 so you never know.

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#12 dawso0n
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omg lmao i hated the demo
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#13 Snowboarder99
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Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

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#14 Hatefish2
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omg lmao i hated the demodawso0n

Good, I liked how you stated your reasons... but judging by your post I'm assuming it's at least one of the following.

- I don't like the genre or the controls.

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#15 torontomapleafs
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[QUOTE="torontomapleafs"]Good got what it deserves. Maybe this will make people realize the full game is no different from the demo.dkdk999
your very wrong that was the first level and i thought it was quite fun.

I enjoyed the BF:BC demo and it was the first level of the campaign.

Jeez stop making excuses.

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[QUOTE="dkdk999"][QUOTE="torontomapleafs"]Good got what it deserves. Maybe this will make people realize the full game is no different from the demo.torontomapleafs

your very wrong that was the first level and i thought it was quite fun.

I enjoyed the BF:BC demo and it was the first level of the campaign.

Jeez stop making excuses.

Comparing a FPS to an RPG? Good job...

But there will be many things different in the full game. Just read this thread

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26533664

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#17 SSCyborg
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This is a love-hate game. Personally I loved the demo.
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#18 Jigsaw9798
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Game Informer tends to highly overrate (Assassin's Creed 9.5, Cod 4 10, Blue Dragon 9, Unreal Tournament 3 9, Super Paper Mario 9.5, Spiderman 3 8etc.) and underrate games(All Party games 1-5, No More Heroes 6.75, and many,many more).
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#19 Magebane
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Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

Snowboarder99

Actually it was a seven...

Moreover, I know I posted in a manner which incites anger from fanboys - and yes if it had chainsaws I'd probably give it a 10 without even playing it.

For now I will say..

Too Human on 360 = Hellgate London on PC!

FLOP :(

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#20 Jigsaw9798
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Game Informer tends to highly overrate (Assassin's Creed 9.5, Cod 4 10, Blue Dragon 9, Unreal Tournament 3 9, Super Paper Mario 9.5, Spiderman 3 8etc.) and underrate games(All Party games 1-5, No More Heroes 6.75, and many,many more).Jigsaw9798

Oh and to top things off in the overrated section, they gave Lair a 7.75 or 8.

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#21 Snowboarder99
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[QUOTE="Snowboarder99"]

Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

Magebane

Actually it was a seven...

Moreover, I know I posted in a manner which incites anger from fanboys - and yes if it had chainsaws I'd probably give it a 10 without even playing it.

For now I will say..

Too Human on 360 = Hellgate London on PC!

FLOP :(

It's an 8. Look closer at the magazine instead of believing what that website told you. I hope your capable of thinking for yourself

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#22 resident-shell
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Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

Snowboarder99
Second opinion is a 7. Based off of the demo, I was thinking the game would be a solid 7 or 8. Game Informer always seems to be higher or lower than my expectations, but it doesn't really matter. It's better a game get a lower score than it deserves than a higher score, I've always thought. And as much as people may want to gripe about how reviewers suck, they are proffessionals, and generally their opinion is worth more than yours so take that into consideration.
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#23 Magebane
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[QUOTE="Magebane"][QUOTE="Snowboarder99"]

Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

Snowboarder99

Actually it was a seven...

Moreover, I know I posted in a manner which incites anger from fanboys - and yes if it had chainsaws I'd probably give it a 10 without even playing it.

For now I will say..

Too Human on 360 = Hellgate London on PC!

FLOP :(

It's an 8. Look closer at the magazine instead of believing what that website told you. I hope your capable of thinking for yourself

Which one of us is on drugs?

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:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best. Almost 1 point for every year in development! lol Next time they should try for an 11!
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:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best.EnderSR388

Good for you, you're also the reason humanity will fail.

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#26 resident-shell
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[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best.Hatefish2

Good for you, you're also the reason humanity will fail.

Yeah but I think dinosaurs will also play a big part.
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#27 Hatefish2
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[QUOTE="Hatefish2"]

[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best.resident-shell

Good for you, you're also the reason humanity will fail.

Yeah but I think dinosaurs will also play a big part.

Very true.

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[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best.Hatefish2

Good for you, you're also the reason humanity will fail.

:lol: Good! I hate you all anyways! :D

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#30 Hatefish2
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[QUOTE="Hatefish2"]

[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]:lol: and people thought this game was going to be awesome!? My suspicions with the demo were right! Average at best.Magebane

Good for you, you're also the reason humanity will fail.

Whats the deal with some of you? Were you so busy touching yourself at night at the thought of playing Too Human that your mind is actually clouded in the face of reviews? First one guy says second opinion is an 8 - several times - even though its a 7...

And now you accuse someone of the reason why humanity will fail?

Hatefish2 is a good name for you I guess, you do hate and you are a fish.

I can't say anyone outright hated Too Human, alot of us were spurned by the demo and now begins the flood of vindication indicating the game is less than stellar and you are so diluted that you just need to randomely attack people?

If EnderSR388 is the reason that humanity will fail, what are you? Let me guess, you're the hypemonkey that still has your Y2K certification card for interstellar moon residency?

I dunno, I think you overthought that one a little bit.

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#31 Snowboarder99
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Other gripes...

- No health regeneration for any characters except Bio Engineer, except through health orbs that are used on contact thus causing all characters playing alone besides a Bio to die A LOT which leads to..

- Lengthy death sequence, with no way to skip.

- Poorly designed boss fights. He doesn't go into detail, just says the bosses have a large amount of hitpoints and seem like parodies.

- Game feels designed for co-op, but story elements are completely removed for it. Although, he calls it a blessing because...

- Bad story. Bad cut-scenes that are poorly animated. Supposedly the story gets worse and worse as the game progresses.

Bottom line of the review:

If you enjoy leveling and looting, then it's worth a look. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.

The second opinion guy is a little nicer, but still comes up with the same bottom line.

Here are some pros it gives also...

- Good sound, decent voicework

- Great customization options, very deep. Lots of loot to collect and customize.

- Great graphical affects and character models (Environments and animation is negatively viewed)

Gameinformer

He's complaining because there is no health regen? 1) If all characters had this, that would make the Bio-Engineer ****completely useless. Lost credibility with his first gripe

Next he complains about the lengthy death scene. It is lengthy for a reason. Really good armor is set throughout the levels of the game. The longer it takes you to get to it, it is more likely for the armor to be gone. So if you're dying all the time, you aren't going to get that armor. And that is the punishment for death in this game. Guess the reviewer didn't do his research.

I haven't played the bosses myself, but from other places I hear they are good and oh so big:D

Of course the story is removed for the co-op. That is hardly an issue when people will just want to rip machines a new one online.

From what I've played the story is very interesting. And from others who played the full game, they say the same.

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#32 Snowboarder99
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[QUOTE="Snowboarder99"][QUOTE="Magebane"][QUOTE="Snowboarder99"]

Also TC, did you notice how the second opinion on that SAME magazine is an 8? No, I suppose you missed that

Magebane

Actually it was a seven...

Moreover, I know I posted in a manner which incites anger from fanboys - and yes if it had chainsaws I'd probably give it a 10 without even playing it.

For now I will say..

Too Human on 360 = Hellgate London on PC!

FLOP :(

It's an 8. Look closer at the magazine instead of believing what that website told you. I hope your capable of thinking for yourself

Which one of us is on drugs?

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camera1017pz7.jpg

It's an 8

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#33 LUK3isH3RE
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Such a low score doesn't surprise me at all. The demo was absolute cack.
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#34 Faunz
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Uhm guise, this really isnt a legitimate review. The guy who wrote it just listed vague bullet points of the gameplay which he does not even fully explain. Bad story? How so? Bad dialogue, bad charachter movement, bad facial expressions, poorly written? What exactly about the story is bad? ''Bad cutscenes and animation'' dont quite explain his point.

No Health regeneration? Thats the Bio-engineers main advantage and you really cant take marks off for making the classes different so that the rest must heal some other way. Thats just how the game was designed and Its not a flawed system.

''Which leads too... lengthy death sequence''. Lengthy death sequence? Thats it? Well how long is it? Surely you dont mean the valkyrie coming from the sky lifting you up then respawning you that takes all of 20 seconds? Also, if your really dying that much, it just means you suck. Its not the games fault.

Lastly, those animations at the end of the review? Hmm yes that proffesional and thoroughly ads to the legitimacy of that so called 'review'

Thanks for reading.

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#35 Magebane
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That big of a fanboy are we? I'll indulge...

No health regen, no health pots, only one class can heal - YOU PICK HEALTH UP OFF GROUND AND IT TAKES INSTANT EFFECT. So what? You're almost dead on that "good, oh so big" boss and you remember the orb that dropped far away and have to run all the way back to heal yourself? How COOL!?~ How does he lose credibility for telling us the game utilizes a half assed arcane arcade method of dropped health orbs versus carrying methods of healing oneself in the midst of battle?

Why is the death scene lengthy for a reason? You gave no reason...

Loot despawning in the game is considered a penalty for dying? Not because they couldn't code the game well enough to keep items on the ground? Why didn't Diablo incorporate this ingenious idea!

The reviewer CALLED the story thats removed for coop a BLESSING - l2read?

He repeatedly says the story is horrible, you call it interesting because you know "others" who played the full game?

Give me a break. T_T

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[QUOTE="Gameinformer"]

He's complaining because there is no health regen? 1) If all characters had this, that would make the Bio-Engineer ****completely useless. Lost credibility with his first gripe

Next he complains about the lengthy death scene. It is lengthy for a reason. Really good armor is set throughout the levels of the game. The longer it takes you to get to it, it is more likely for the armor to be gone. So if you're dying all the time, you aren't going to get that armor. And that is the punishment for death in this game. Guess the reviewer didn't do his research.

I haven't played the bosses myself, but from other places I hear they are good and oh so big:D

Of course the story is removed for the co-op. That is hardly an issue when people will just want to rip machines a new one online.

From what I've played the story is very interesting. And from others who played the full game, they say the same.

Snowboarder99

The one gripe that should be discounted is the first one. That doesn't really make sense at all. Other than that the reviewer has valid points that you cannot deny until you've actually played the game. And regarding co-op, the option to view cutscenes and story elements should have been there, the ability to take them out should have also been there. Not everyone will want to play the game first solo just to know what the hell is going on. Your explination for death doesn't make sense. They could have made a shorter death sequence and just had the armor disappear quicker, or after "X" amount of deaths the armor is gone.

You can't just pick apart a review for a game you've yet to play. You just can't. And don't forget that your opinion isn't more valuable than anyone else's unless you've got a degree of some kind.

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#37 Hatefish2
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If we're guilty of being fanboys then you're guilty of being an angry troll who likes to hate constantly. Whether you think the game is good or not we're still going to get it unless between the demo and the full game they destroyed everything that was fun.
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#38 Snowboarder99
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That big of a fanboy are we? I'll indulge...

No health regen, no health pots, only one class can heal - YOU PICK HEALTH UP OFF GROUND AND IT TAKES INSTANT EFFECT. So what? You're almost dead on that "good, oh so big" boss and you remember the orb that dropped far away and have to run all the way back to heal yourself? How COOL!?~ How does he lose credibility for telling us the game utilizes a half assed arcane arcade method of dropped health orbs versus carrying methods of healing oneself in the midst of battle?

Why is the death scene lengthy for a reason? You gave no reason...

Loot despawning in the game is considered a penalty for dying? Not because they couldn't code the game well enough to keep items on the ground? Why didn't Diablo incorporate this ingenious idea!

The reviewer CALLED the story thats removed for coop a BLESSING - l2read?

He repeatedly says the story is horrible, you call it interesting because you know "others" who played the full game?

Give me a break. T_T

Magebane

If all the characters could heal, what's the point of the Bio-Enginner? No one would play as him and that would be the huge design flaw.

I did give a reason and I know you saw it because you talk about it. When getting epic loot is your main driver in this game, taking away loot drops is a great penalty for death. Think before you post.

And yes I believe others opnion more than Gameinformers.

Call me a fanboy all you want, bottom line is you're wrong in this. Give up

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#39 resident-shell
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Uhm guise, this really isnt a legitimate review. The guy who wrote it just listed vague bullet points of the gameplay which he does not even fully explain. Bad story? How so? Bad dialogue, bad charachter movement, bad facial expressions, poorly written? What exactly about the story is bad? ''Bad cutscenes and animation'' dont quite explain his point.

Faunz
Yeah, um, the actual review in the magazine is not vaque bullets, what you read was a summary of the review. Look at the magazine scan.
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#40 Snowboarder99
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You can't just pick apart a review for a game you've yet to play. You just can't. And don't forget that your opinion isn't more valuable than anyone else's unless you've got a degree of some kind.

resident-shell

And the TC can't act as if this review is the most accurate. I said it before, let's wait for reviews from Gametrailers, IGN, Iup, and here before you guys judge the game. But then the TC kept rambling on with his hate so I kept defending

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#41 karriston
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I've been following Too Human for years, and no-one was more disappointed than me when the demo turned out to be a turd. However, I hope for a sequel. The game has potential, but it's all wasted. Blandness and an overall feeling of "...meh" ruled the demo. I shan't be getting Too Human (at least, until the price comes WAAAAAAAAAY down), and Dyack's childish rantings certainly aren'thelping.
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#42 resident-shell
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[QUOTE="Magebane"]

If all the characters could heal, what's the point of the Bio-Enginner? No one would play as him and that would be the huge design flaw.

I did give a reason and I know you saw it because you talk about it. When getting epic loot is your main driver in this game, taking away loot drops is a great penalty for death. Think before you post.

And yes I believe others opnion more than Gameinformers.

Call me a fanboy all you want, bottom line is you're wrong in this. Give up

Snowboarder99
No one gives a good goddamn who's right and wrong, neither of you know what the hell you're talking about because you haven't played the game.
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#43 resident-shell
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[QUOTE="resident-shell"]

You can't just pick apart a review for a game you've yet to play. You just can't. And don't forget that your opinion isn't more valuable than anyone else's unless you've got a degree of some kind.

Snowboarder99

And the TC can't act as if this review is the most accurate. I said it before, let's wait for reviews from Gametrailers, IGN, Iup, and here before you guys judge the game. But then the TC kept rambling on with his hate so I kept defending

Hey, you're not the only one who thinks the TC is a douchebag, but you just need to stop arguing. That's how all these lameass internet arguments are. No one knows when to stop.
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#45 NintendoGamer3
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That's it? Too Human deserves a 8 average from people.
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#46 dkdk999
Member since 2007 • 6754 Posts
[QUOTE="Gameinformer"]

Other gripes...

- No health regeneration for any characters except Bio Engineer, except through health orbs that are used on contact thus causing all characters playing alone besides a Bio to die A LOT which leads to..

- Lengthy death sequence, with no way to skip.

- Poorly designed boss fights. He doesn't go into detail, just says the bosses have a large amount of hitpoints and seem like parodies.

- Game feels designed for co-op, but story elements are completely removed for it. Although, he calls it a blessing because...

- Bad story. Bad cut-scenes that are poorly animated. Supposedly the story gets worse and worse as the game progresses.

Bottom line of the review:

If you enjoy leveling and looting, then it's worth a look. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.

The second opinion guy is a little nicer, but still comes up with the same bottom line.

Here are some pros it gives also...

- Good sound, decent voicework

- Great customization options, very deep. Lots of loot to collect and customize.

- Great graphical affects and character models (Environments and animation is negatively viewed)

Snowboarder99

He's complaining because there is no health regen? 1) If all characters had this, that would make the Bio-Engineer ****completely useless. Lost credibility with his first gripe

Next he complains about the lengthy death scene. It is lengthy for a reason. Really good armor is set throughout the levels of the game. The longer it takes you to get to it, it is more likely for the armor to be gone. So if you're dying all the time, you aren't going to get that armor. And that is the punishment for death in this game. Guess the reviewer didn't do his research.

I haven't played the bosses myself, but from other places I hear they are good and oh so big:D

Of course the story is removed for the co-op. That is hardly an issue when people will just want to rip machines a new one online.

From what I've played the story is very interesting. And from others who played the full game, they say the same.

i know those complaints are stupid as hell.
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#47 EnderSR388
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[QUOTE="Snowboarder99"][QUOTE="Magebane"]

If all the characters could heal, what's the point of the Bio-Enginner? No one would play as him and that would be the huge design flaw.

I did give a reason and I know you saw it because you talk about it. When getting epic loot is your main driver in this game, taking away loot drops is a great penalty for death. Think before you post.

And yes I believe others opnion more than Gameinformers.

Call me a fanboy all you want, bottom line is you're wrong in this. Give up

resident-shell

No one gives a good goddamn who's right and wrong, neither of you know what the hell you're talking about because you haven't played the game.

How is the retail game going to differ other than length and more playable characters/options? The game mechanics have already been set in place (control, camera, etc.), so basically the demo, despite the general disclaimer, is good representation of what the final build will be like. These aren't opinions based on screenshots or previews, we had a demo tha we played and thought was mediocre.

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yeah the demo sucked
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#49 Hatefish2
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No, it didn't.
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#50 dkdk999
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I've been following Too Human for years, and no-one was more disappointed than me when the demo turned out to be a turd. However, I hope for a sequel. The game has potential, but it's all wasted. Blandness and an overall feeling of "...meh" ruled the demo. I shan't be getting Too Human (at least, until the price comes WAAAAAAAAAY down), and Dyack's childish rantings certainly aren'thelping.karriston
i kind of feel bad for you. i dont know what i would do if i was dissapointed.