Video Game Violence and its effect on Children

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#1 Matt-4542
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

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#2 KittensWithBeer
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Matt-4542

1. 3, i think

2. 13

3. Not at all

4. Only to the mentally retarded children

5. They deserve to die.

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#3 SaintJimmmy
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1) 5 Years Old

2)16 Years Old

3)No, Actually If anything i Find it a Decent way to blow of some steam

4)I think it really depends on the players maturity i think it really could effect young children that dont fully know whats Right and Wrong

5)I don't know much about the two ive heard they have a strong negative look on violent video games that i disagree with cause once again i think it depends on the players maturity

Hope i could help

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#4 craigalan23
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1. Around 4-5

2. 17

3. Nope i'm very nice.

4. I think violent video games don't influence NORMAL people or mature enough people that understand what's reality and what's fiction. Mentally disturbed people might get influenced by them though.

5. I can't stand them. They should go after parents for selling the games not censoring games because parents use them as babysitters. It's not that hard to spend time with your children and see what he/she plays. Some kids are mature enough for these games but some aren't parents should keep the immature children away from M rated games and mature kids should be able to get M rated games if they're ready.

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#5 ligerz76
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1. 8

2. 16

3. No. The only time I ever hurt anything was when I was messing around with my brothers. It was just roughhousing, I would've done it regardless.

4. I think many people treat games like devices that are made to turn kids into mass murderers rather than just a game made for shear entertainment and artistic purposes. The games shouldn't be given to immature or troublesome, wily kids but will be fine for anyone who can handle the violent content without an issue.

5. I think they go way overboard and need to get lives.

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#6 bxgt
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1)5 (goldeneye 64)

2)19

3)not really

4)yes but only on stupid people, if you can't tell the diference between digital driving and real driving then you wont go far in life

5)There will always be two sides to a situation so i say ignore them, hilary needs something to make her look good and thompson is crazy.

and if i had children i would educate them about what is real and what is, show them what they cant and can do so yes i would let them play violent games to a certain extent.

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#7 Disturbed_King
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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games? When I was 3 or 4 years old
2) How old are you now? 16
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games? No
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people? Violent games actually decrease violent behavior in kids playing them, not increase.
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton? Thompson is just an attention seeker who always interrupts and "wants to talk the whole time" whenever he's on a news station doing a report, while Clinton, is just another very uninformed activist who actually needs to PLAY the game first before deciding to attack it.

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#8 nahmean187
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video games, like movies have ratings m,t,e etc. its not the video games fault if a kid gets a hold of a m game that has a lot of violence just like how its not the movies fault if a kid sees a violent movie. so no, video games do not "cause" violence in any way.
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#9 Ayronrock
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theres no freakin effect!!!!!!!me and my friend were playing today and laughing are asses off!
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#10 duckdude64
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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games? - 11
2) How old are you now? - 15
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games? - not at all most of the time i fell better
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people? - no not at all
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton? - um... there ok i guess
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#11 cupcake_JR
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a lil biased just to inform u. if u come here and ask about this every1 is going to say "im fine aint i?" but go to a religious forum and ask the same thing and we are demons awaiting the utter abyss and the nothingness that awaits us. might wana get some1 elses perspective on this =P

Edit: and would also like to say there will NEVER be a right answer too this conflict because studies cant prove anything since every1 is different, there test people could just be more aggressive then one annother so there goes everything.

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#12 LeviLRP
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I don't remember how old I was the first time I played violent games.

I am 23 now.

The only time I think that games influence a persons behavior is when they would have had the same problem any way or have problems already. I don't think video games inplant violent behaviors in people. I do think it may bring out violent behaviors or tendencies that people already have and make them worse.

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#13 bedram793
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1) 4

2) 14 (near 15)

3) No, not at all. In school I'm known as kind of a quite guy (even though I talk a lot to my friends, just don't get caught). I have straight A's. I have never gotten in trouble (not even minor trouble, like seriously, no trouble at all, no detention or lunch detention at all).

4) I don't think they can. For god's sake it's a game where you try to just have fun.

5) They really don't know what they are talking about. Just blame the video game industry for things that isn't the video game industries fault.

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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

Matt-4542

1- 7

2- 29

3- No.

4- My stance is as follows:

In GTA 4 I smashed a random woman's face in with a baseball bat and smiled and said out loud "aw cool!" while smiling". I drive through a group of random pedestrians in GTA 4 and think it's funny. I play Resident Evil games with tons of blood and gore and it doesn't phase me in the least, I play Gears of War and still enjoy tearing up someone with a chainsaw.

Yet when I hear about a murder suicide that recently took place near where I live, I couldn't sleep that night, because thinking about how something like that could happen in real life disturbs me. When I think of the pig farmer that abducted and murdered 26 prostitutes in the Vancouver downtown east-side it terrifies me.

There's a HUGE difference between a video game on the television and what happens in real life.

Do I think Video Games can instill violent behavior into people?

Absolutely not. Someone has to already be unstable to have what he/she sees in a video game have it effect their own judgement applied to anything in real life. Lawyers can try as hard as they want to remove accountability from people who hurt or kill other people, but when it comes down to it, everybody is responsible for their own actions. If it's not video games that are being used as a scapegoat, then it's rap music or action movies or pornographic movies.

5- Jack Thompson has proven that he doesn't fully research games that he speaks out against. As for senator Clinton...I'm not familiar with her official stances regarding video games and it's effect on American culture.

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#15 Food_Nipple
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1) 5
2) 20
3) only on a frustrating section I can't beat
4) Again, only when they're frustrated, but the same is true of frustration due to anything. Violent people are attracted to violent games. Clothes can be a perfect example: You're not fat because you wear large pants. You wear large pants because you're fat.
5) Thompson is a douchebag who is only still on the issue because it gets his name in the headlines. Clinton is just ignorant about the subject. It's not nearly as big of an issue for her and her campaign as gamers are making it out to be. It's just another bullet point on a sheet of stances for her.
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#16 joshua6775
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Here's a chime in from an "older" gamer

I'm 33. I have grown up my entire life playing video games. The first seriously violent game I ever really got into was Mortal Kombat. I was probably 15 or 16. I've seen the evolution of outrage by society of the ever expanding acceptance of violence in gaming, and have always believed that the beutiful thing about America is that these people have a right to their opinions, even if mine differs immensely. I've played the wrost of the worst, from Manhunt to Grand Threft Auto, God of War 1 and 2 and every first person shooter you can think of. I go to work every day, I pay my taxes, my bills and I have never killed anyone, not because of violent games, but because my parents raised me right. Thats the heart of the uproar.....parenting. Moreover, uninformed or apathetic parents who either don't know what their kid is playing in his room by not researching what they buy them, or simply not taking the time to even ask once they have.

I have a 12 year old step son and a 14 yr old step daughter, both heavily into gaming. I play games like Guitar Hero or Rockband with them on my X360, they each have a Gamecube and share their Wii on their own time. Neither of them are allowed to play "M" rated games. Neither of them are allowed to watch me play mine. I do feel that kids should be policed to an extent on any content they see on anything, be it movies, video games, the web, tv or any media they seek out until they can handle it. I treat mine with respect and allow them some freedoms some their age may not get, but beating an old lday to death with a baseball bat for fun on the streets of Liberty City is not one of them. It comes down to parenting in my opinion, even if a kid is going to seek out the more "dangerous" or "controversial " materials on his/her own if it's just held away as taboo. I know I did. Get involved, pick up a controller and play games with your kids. Try and work in some actual real life connection in there if you get a chance. You'd be amazed at how your kid won't go riddle his lunchroom with gunfire tomorrow at school if you do.

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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Matt-4542

1) 2 1/2

2) 17

3) Never

4) No, if anything it does the opposite (Bar the .00001% of crazies)

5) Thompson: If he was just fighting for his cause in a legal/normal way he wouldn't bother very many people, but instead he tries to force his beliefs onto people in the form of law even when they violate contitutional rights (not just video games). He SEEMS (not necessarily is) like a meglomaniac (sp.) at times. This point is reinforced further when he finds the cumpulsive need to not only defend himself, but also insult others with inflamatory remarks on gamepolitics.com. Why does he do this? No one may ever know.

If I had children (I don't), it would depend on the game. GTA would come well after, say, Halo.

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#19 a55a55inx
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1) i'd say about 7 years old

2) I'm 22

3) I'm not a violent person in the real world, i never try to hurt anyone...however, in the video game world, that's a whole nother story.

4) I've also done a research paper on this same topic. There is no connection with violence among kids and violent video games. There is no evidence or proof that violent video games causes a child to be more aggressive. In fact, in the year of 2004, (the same year Halo2 and GTA: San andreas came out) violent crimes among adolescence over 12 years old has hit a record low in decades.

5) I doubt that Clinton or Thompson has played a violent video game. They blindly assume that it has an effect just because it's violent. In fact, as soon as the Virginia tech incident happened, Thompson was recorded, blindly accusing video games as the cause of the young man's aggression, almost immediately. However, when the tapes arrived, we all know that this wasn't the case. Many adults still view video games as a children's hobby and adults don't play games, that's why they should be banned.

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#20 a55a55inx
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I would also let my kids play violent games (when i have them) because my brothers and i have played violent games for years, and we grew up respecting and honoring our parents. Not only that, but we also respect other people as well...
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#21 kyrissbp82
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I started playing violent games when I was in elementary school (about the time that the original Mortal Kombat and Night Trap were getting flack from the media). My parents would never have let me play the games, but I played at the arcade or at my friends' houses. Fortunately, I had parents who actually raised me instead of just sitting in front of the TV. I do not think that children are negatively affected by video games if their parents actually take some time to raise them right. I never tore anyone's heart out from playing MK. Violent video games are a great stress reliever. I can hit someone with a car in GTA so I don't have to do it in real life.

As far as anti-game activists go, I think that Jack Thompson is juvenile and will do anything to be in the lime light. Clinton just panders to anyone who will support her. The video game situation now mirrors that of comic books and and magic cards in the past. I believe that once the 'video game generation' begins to filter into politics, things will change.

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#22 Teelee8
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1) 6

2) 14

3) Nope

4) Not really. Only little kids are influenced by violent games.

5) Clinton- Publicity stunt. Obama's gonna win. Thompson- Get a better hobby

When I have kids I'll let them play as long as they play basketball or football.

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#23 nosferatu
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I'll tag this for right now and come back later with my response (I'll just edit this out and replace it).

I'm currently in med school and so feel I have a unique perspective to call "bull" on a lot of what I see as "reported research" etc in the news.

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#25 Angry_Hobo4
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1) About 11

2)15

3)Yes. Especially Assassin's Creed. I walk around like I am Altair and push people out of my way and climbing tall structures

4) Ive heard of psychos learning to shoot of games like Halo then going on a killing spree

5) They dont bug me I dont bug them ( I live in australia)

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#26 cool_baller
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It doesn't effect children, well normal children. Only children who have a predesposition to aggresive behavior would be encourage to try and copy the things in video games. It's been prove by the psychological community. A book came out like a month ago detailing a two year study.
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#27 XxAnubisxX
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1 I would say 8

2 im 19 now

3 No, never

4 I think its a load of crap and institutes as well a universities have proved it wrong every time, thats all I read... and I think thats why this topic isn't as hot as it once was thanks to those studies that proved it wrong. Though Grand theft auto spurred a bit more conflict as it lauched particularly by Glenn Steinbeck who's 4 minute pathetic outburst of biased and incorrect views is probably posted on Youtube.com and you should look it up... Sorry to add even more put if you do find this video he states some "theory" in which he believes that the actually hit rating in war was improved by progressing in simulations of killing people. This is not true because if it was then according to him The Revolutionary war and civil war would have never been violent becuase it is "not within normal human behavior to kill eachother" and thats what he says! even though war and torture was far more cruel since before christ BC!

5) Clinton has no idea of what she is talking about... She is just trying to destroy our rights and freedoms in this country! This sort of governmental control is not necessary and it's up to parents to decide what their children play for entertainment. It's not the govenment's business as to how I entertain myself in the off time if it's not breaking laws enforced currently.

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#28 XxAnubisxX
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http://spillmagasinet.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/64206_dagens-dummeste-video

you should definately follow this link and listen to his obsurd comments. He is basing hit ratios of WWI to modern day without including advancement in modern technology...do you know how accurate weapons are today compared to then?! there is almost no reason to miss a target today but back then weapons sights were very bland in design. And that is a complete lie when he state's that the soldiers couldn't shoot because they just didn't have the willingness to do it...

For thousands of years man has waged war on one another. Torture was used as a form of entertainment for centuries its fact! Stonings and hangings, beheadings, severing limbs, cutting out your tongue, and whippings.

So I refuse to agree with any of his points and I laugh as he clearly states, "It is not within normal human nature to kill one another." if it wasn't then there wouldn't be crime and war and descrimination... all of that hatred spurs violence and disagreements which begat war and death!

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#29 slayer85
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1) 4 or 5
2) 22
3)Ive always been inately aggressive, videogames did not enhance it. Ive always been interested in sports, lifting, guns, and stuff like that, aggressiveness is just natural to me, maybe thats why i like games, but games did not cause it.
4)Video games dont make someone violent, someone will already have violent tendencies and then video games gives people a venue to act on it, if someone wants to kill people in real life but is too much of a coward to do it, maybe they will turn to videogames.
5)meh, people will always try to find reasons behind stuff like virginia tech and columbine, let them grind their axe to no avail

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#30 dandyman94
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

I started at about six or seven im 13 now im not more agressive from video games atleast i havent noticed, i dont think people get bad influences of games unless their retarded i have never heard of those names in my life

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#31 Myke_Brooks
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

I started playing videogames when i was 5, and im 25 now.. I personally dont feel more aggressive after playing any videogame reguardless of how violent the game might be. honestly i would say that it is possible for games to provoke different behaviors in different people.. but games only have the same influence as any movie or music that you listen to.. iwanna say the more weak minded people may fall victim to these influences because me myself have never had this problem.. its all about whether or not you can seperate fantasy and reality.. i personally find videogames as an escape.. and this is coming from someone that has been arrested in his past for numerous things (never any violent crimes) and since ive been able to occupy my idle time with videogames i have not been in trouble.. ive stop smoking marijuana.. ive very successful working for a fortune 500 company(pepsi bottling group) and i have 3 beautiful boys.. as far as Hilary Clinton goes.. i think she is just a victim of the media.. by this i mean.. the media portrays the negatives of videogames and disreguard the positives.. and she focuses on those views only... i also believe if she were to get into office she would cause a lot of problems for a multi billion dollar industry and the fans of it..

and to rap this up.. my oldest son is 5 years old.. i recently bought him a ps2 for christmas and im extremely strict on the games he plays.. my reason for that is he is only 5 and i dont think hes ready for a GTA or Mortal Kombat.. i dont want it to alger his perception on reality and fantasy or cripple his decision making skills... games have age limitations for a reason and when i feel he is ready to responsibly play these games and not fall into the negative statistic he will be able to play any game he wants.. as long as his grades in school and social life arent affected or influence by it

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Violent Games have little or no effect on "normal" children - Normal means no developmental challenges.

Children and adults have the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality, therefore know what is a game and what is real.

Video games are an easy target for politicians to blame violent crimes on. This is not new. Before it was TV or violent movies.

Politicians use this as an easy photo op - great way to get press because they are uninformed and inexperienced, as are most of the news media today. It is much easier to blame youth violence on the games because most adults (read parents) have never actually played 'those evil games' and can be lead like sheep by the slick politcker.

It is much easier to get on the TV and blame the games, than to actually do something that solves the root problems like domestic violence, poverty, hunger, homelessness, street gangs, addictions etc etc. This is what causes violent behavior and there is no easy solution. Not as easy as blaming the big bad video game, or movie or TV show.....

Just some thoughts.

Oh yeah - gamer for over 30 years. Yes I let my kids play games that are appropriate for their maturity level, and yes some of them are violent. But we play/screen etc together. (eg: COD4 = OK/ any GTA = NO).

/end rant.

PS another poster referred to this - but definitely look at Grand Theft Childhood - supposed to be very interesting and dismisses this whole argument (Nope haven't seen it myself - yet).

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1 I was 10 years old.

2 I am now 18 years old

3 Never.

4 I think it lies with the parents because they chose what their child will and wont see.

5 I think we all should let them know we respect their oppinion, and bij doing that we prove them wrong.

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1. 10; Mortal Kombat was the first violent videogame I played

2. 25

3. I have noticed some increase in agressiveness after playing these type of games. These type of videogames do intesify your mood as you continue playing. But at the same time, some games still can help relieve stress.

4. I can see both sides to the argument, but I'd have to say no. There isn't a strong link between violent videogames and violent people. The evidence just isn't there. Violent videogames alone will not create a violent behavior in people. People who are exposed to violence and have experienced violence tend to have a more hostile attitude.

5. I don't believe Thompson and Clinton have even been correctly informed on these type of games. For all we know, they may still consider Mass Effect and God of War porno games. Like all research, you have to really study the subject well and understand how it works. I don't think people like Thompson and Clinton really have a good idea about this. Also, as mentioned, there isn't any strong link that directly links violent games to violent people. There hasn't been any concrete proof available to support that hypothesis.

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Woah, a topic other than "Do you like achievements or not?" All right, stay with me here, 'cause I've got a lot to say.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?Matt-4542

I was 11 when I first played Doom, Doom being the first ultra-violent game I played. I'd played Raptor: Call of the Shadows and TIE Fighter before that, but those weren't near as violent as Doom. Anyone remember when games used to be rated on a violence scale, of 1 to 4? It went like this:

  • Level 1: Damage to realistic objects (I remember this one on combat flight sim games)
  • Level 2: Humans killed (This one was on shooters that had no blood, like Dark Forces)
  • Level 3: Killing with blood and gore (Doom)
  • Level 4: Wanton and gratuitous violence (Haha! Those exact words were on Duke Nukem)

I don't know why they got rid of the violence scale. It seemed like it was a lot more informative to parents and other clueless parties than just "T" or "M."

2) How old are you now?Matt-4542

I'm 24.

3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?Matt-4542

No, not immediately after playing those games. I played almost every shooter that came out between '93 and 2001, then I joined the Army. I always joke that shooters made me crave a life of violence in the military.

In all reality, you'll see crap on anti-gaming websites claiming that the government uses Doom to "train" soldiers and Marines, in order to desensitize them to violence. (It's always Doom that the ultra-liberals/conservatives pick on, never Duke Nukem, Quake, Half-Life, et cetera. Apparently, Doom is all there is in the world of shooters.) Anyway, the USMC did try using a modified version of Doom to train fireteam (four guys) tactics in 1996. The emphasis was on team work, leadership, and small unit maneuvers. It was not designed to program Marines to love killing; there's many other, and more time-honored ways of doing that. Anyone who suggests that videogames desensitize people to violence probably has never witnessed any real violence. Violence on your TV/computer screen and real violence are completely different. Seeing Marcus Fenix cut somebody in half with a chainsaw does not get you ready to go see someone get cut in half with a machinegun. This is my opinion based on personal experience. From a larger and less anecdotal perspective, I would suggest that if videogames are so realistic in their depictions of violence, then we'd see hordes of gamers suffering from PTSD, like the guys coming back from Iraq.

4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?Matt-4542

There's a key issue here between video games causing heightened aggressiveness and video games actually causing violent behavior. All kinds of things cause aggressiveness. Watching a football game heightens aggressiveness (of course, there's extreme liberal fruitcakes who want to ban football). So, I'm open to the idea that violent games might be a little more exciting than, say, Hello Kitty Island Adventure. As to violent games actually warping kids' fragile little minds and turning them into Ted Bundy...

In 2000, the (American) Federal Trade Commission was directed at the behest of Congress to investigate the entertainment industry and its marketing techniques, to include video game publishers. This inquiry was in response to the Columbine incident, as a follow-up to a 1993 investigation which resulted in the gaming industry's (still) current self-rating system. Although the investigation was directed primarily towards the marketing of video games to children, it also scrutinized the effects of video game violence. The FTC found that although some entertainment companies engaged in advertising that presented mature material to children (individuals under 17), it also found that a higher level of parental involvement would serve to regulate this exposure as much as an alteration in marketing practices. Regarding violence, the panel's words speak very clearly:

"Most researchers and investigators agree that exposure to media violence alone does not cause a child to commit a violent act, and that it is not the sole, or even necessarily the most important, factor contributing to youth aggression, anti-social attitudes, and violence."

If video games were the root of all evil, like some whackos (Thompson/Clinton) think, then one would expect to see patterns of violent behavior amongst the game-playing demographics. Who plays videogames? Middle-income males. Who's responsible for most violent crime? I'll give you a clue; it isn't middle-income males. Violent games do not compel people to commit violent acts. To infer so is unscientific and illogical. Although host of special interest groups condemn violent video games as responsible for societal decay, global warming, and AIDS, research, both experimental and statistical, demonstrates that there is no rational basis for the notion that violent games create violent people.

5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?Matt-4542

See above.

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#36 Matt-4542
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Here's a chime in from an "older" gamer

I'm 33. I have grown up my entire life playing video games. The first seriously violent game I ever really got into was Mortal Kombat. I was probably 15 or 16. I've seen the evolution of outrage by society of the ever expanding acceptance of violence in gaming, and have always believed that the beutiful thing about America is that these people have a right to their opinions, even if mine differs immensely. I've played the wrost of the worst, from Manhunt to Grand Threft Auto, God of War 1 and 2 and every first person shooter you can think of. I go to work every day, I pay my taxes, my bills and I have never killed anyone, not because of violent games, but because my parents raised me right. Thats the heart of the uproar.....parenting. Moreover, uninformed or apathetic parents who either don't know what their kid is playing in his room by not researching what they buy them, or simply not taking the time to even ask once they have.

I have a 12 year old step son and a 14 yr old step daughter, both heavily into gaming. I play games like Guitar Hero or Rockband with them on my X360, they each have a Gamecube and share their Wii on their own time. Neither of them are allowed to play "M" rated games. Neither of them are allowed to watch me play mine. I do feel that kids should be policed to an extent on any content they see on anything, be it movies, video games, the web, tv or any media they seek out until they can handle it. I treat mine with respect and allow them some freedoms some their age may not get, but beating an old lday to death with a baseball bat for fun on the streets of Liberty City is not one of them. It comes down to parenting in my opinion, even if a kid is going to seek out the more "dangerous" or "controversial " materials on his/her own if it's just held away as taboo. I know I did. Get involved, pick up a controller and play games with your kids. Try and work in some actual real life connection in there if you get a chance. You'd be amazed at how your kid won't go riddle his lunchroom with gunfire tomorrow at school if you do.

joshua6775

Ive gotten some younger teenage gamers opinions on gaming and violence (Including my own obviously) but this is the first parent that has posted anything worthwhile. Im going to use this so I thank you very much sir.

Also, over on the PS3 forums some guys are asking me to send my essay to them so they can read it so Im just going to post it on both forums after Im done so whoever wants to read it can, and even use it (I couldnt care less).

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I was around 6 years old when I played and even watched my Cousin play violent video games. (Resident Evil, Diablo, etc)

I am now 17 years old.

I really don't get mad, nice, and also patient.

I believe that video games are the least of the problem. (Obesity, child abuse, school shootings and even the internet, are more serious.) I believe since the Government, can't really ban internet, they go after something more palpable, Video Games.

I don't agree with the people's view on video games. (Seems like another way to hype their cause and election)

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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1) Around five or six with the Sega Genesis.

2) I am now 16.

3) Not in the least bit.

4) No, video games themselves cannot instill violence in children. It is when a person too young or too immature is introduced to violent concepts without understanding the meaning, context, or the effects of violence. When parents fail to teach their children to separate reality from fantasy and fail to distinguish right from wrong it results in a child who has distorted moral values and socially unacceptable virtues.

5) I have heard of Jack Thompson through other people, though I have never read or heard any of his "preachings." Clinton, on the other hand is entirely ignorant of video games as are other critics of the industry. They do not read in depth the descriptions of games and at the mere mention of violence they assume that it is terrible. The violence needs to be put into context and the level of such needs to be measured. Also, ratings are put in place for a reason. Many assume that just because it is a video game that it is designed for children. That is a terrible misunderstanding, many of these games are designed by adults and for adults. The average gamer is from 25-32, I believe. The fact that many underaged gamers get their hands on these Mature titles is because of a few reasons:

-Their parents accurately judge their maturity and understand the content of a game. They weigh these properly and purchase the game for the underaged person. (This is my case.)

-A parent does not pay attention to the content of the game or the maturity of the child and spoils them with whatever it is they desire to either appeal to their every whim or to keep the child distracted.

-Sales clerks selling games to minors.

I do hope at one point the distinction between mindless activities and art becomes clear, because there are many that can be easily placed in either category.

*Lastly, I just want to add this: Often critics label acts of real world violence as stemming from the violence of video games. This is untrue. It is either the case that they simply find a violent game in a suspect's home and assume that there is a link between it and the possibly murderous activities of the person. Or, the person who commited a violent act would have eventually snapped even had s/he not played a video game. In this scenario, it would only be a matter of time. It is the fault of the parent for not recognizing the signs of possible emotional and mental instability in their children and not treating it properly. This failure to act is the cause of the real world violence.

Yes, I will allow my children (assuming I have any) to play video games. But, I will use the measures I spoke about previously to determine what is right and wrong for them. I will not allow my 10 year old to play GTA or any similar title. For mature rated titles I will probably set a minimum of age 14 and judge their maturity at the time. If my kid is too immature at 14, then I will not allow him or her to play a violent game. It is truly all about judgement, not the contents of a game. It is a shame that more people do not acknowledge this. I hope one day this truth becomes evident.

Good luck with your paper!

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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games? 2) How old are you now? 3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games? 4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people? 5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

1) I came out of the womb screaming BOOM HEADSHOT!

2) 15

3) how should i know?

4) nope unless they are incredibly dumb and naive

5) Evil crusaders trying to take the joy from the children, and jalous that they didn't have Manhunt as kids

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1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games? 2) How old are you now? 3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games? 4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people? 5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

1.like 10 maybe less

2.19

3.no

4.honestly yes, on younger children but it's up to the adult to tech there child right from wrong. but if your 15+ and blame GTA for you robbing a corner store lmao you have issues "true story btw"

5. dont know much about em but there are real world issues that need more attention than what "lil johnny" is playing and the over hypeness (lol is that even a word :P) of this issue

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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1)VIOLENT video games? 9, I suppose.

2)19

3)Never. I refuse to become desensitized to them and always keep a firm hold on reality.

4)Only if they dont realise that what happens in games is NOT a realisation of the real world i.e they dont realise what they are doing is virtual and the lines become blurred.

5)I really dont mind, as long as I get to play the games I want.

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1) Around 8 years old.

2)17

3)I would say that when playing aggrevating games that I can't beat (say for example, certain levels) I get mad. That is however only when i'm playing and doesn't carry over when i'm done for I know I shouldn't be mad and games shouldn't change me in a negative way. I haven't ever become violent due to a game (such as physically abusing someone or something, except for the occassional punching of one of my pillows).

4)I think that video games can instill violence in people, just the same as movies can. The thing is that people need to be more mature and be able to differentiate between the real world and the virtual world. This is where a lot of people lack. Some think they can do as characters in games and movies do and thus end up causing disturbances in society. On the topic of maturity, this is where ratings come into play and why they are so necessary. I'm sure you can figure out for yourself why we don't want little kids playing games like GTA. At such a young age, the mind is like a sponge and absords all this information, not being able to sort through it, determining what is right and wrong. This is also where parents come into play. Parents need to teach their kids right from wrong so that when they do come of age to play mature rated games, they aren't affected by it in a negative way.

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Glad I can help, man. Good topic, hopefully and even better presentation.
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#45 krish117
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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1. when i was 4

2. I'm 17 years old

3. No...im well sorted out since childhood ((never even had therapy or councelling)) !

4. Yea, games can instill violence in every person...The bottomline is that they CAN .

5. I dont know them,sorry,i live in another country! But if they really believe in what they say,then good for them,but they have absolutely no right to mess around with other peoples heads.

6. Nope,no kids (atleast I think so) and yes,i would let them play video games in the future.

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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1. I probably played GTA first when I was 10, but my parents wouldn't even by me Halo until I was 14.

2. 18

3. I do feel like I'm more aggressive than I was when I was younger but I think it has more to do with my parents trying to shelter me when I was young.

4. The people on the news that are "influenced" by video games always show a history of psychological problems for a very long time. It might be possible, but never to the extent that they are falsely given credit.

5. JT and Clinton are completely out of touch with reality. My dad was listening to Bill O Reily or some other talk show in the car the other day and they brought up a story where 3 adolescents dug up a body in a cemetery. The very first excuse was violent video games like everyone's favorite scapegoat, GTA. I can't believe that this slander passes for journalism.

I plan to let my children play games like Halo at 13 and GTA 15. I will definitely play with them at first and when I know they understand it, I'll let them play them by themselves.

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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1) violent video games 9 normal ones 4-5

2)13

3)no

4)if they r retarded then YES but NO i played GTA when i was i think....10 or somthing and im fine!

5) i think they havent played HALO, GEARS or GTA before...

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This is a great survey! Will you please post the results?
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http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/video-games-turn-kids-into-killers-not-so-says-new-book/1212550

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Hello everybody. Im doing a research essay on this topic and I'd like to hear from you. Yes, you all will get credit (Im not taking credit for somebody elses opinions) but I will only put in the detailed opinions so I'd really like to get 2 or 3 of them. I just need to ask you several questions.

1) How old were you when you started playing violent video games?
2) How old are you now?
3) Have you noticed more agressiveness after playing these video games?
4) What is your stance on this subject. Do you think that video games can instill violent behavior in people?
5) What do you think of activists like Thompson and Clinton?

And if any of you have children, would you let your children play the games you do or not, and why?

Thank you all very much for your time. This is the grade that decides if I pass or fail for the last quater of the school year so I want to make this good.

Edit- Keep it serious and clean, please.

Matt-4542

1) 5

2) 17

3) Nope

4) Not at all

5) They belong in Hell