who hates M$ (fees)

the fee for Xbox Live makes sense if you compare it to the pc:

sure, the PC games out there has free online play, but the cost of a computer that can run call of duty 4 and 5 is kinda about 600 decently. your getting out pretty well. the DLC, though, is a different story. Being a rock band player, i found myself spending about 30 dollars just for extra songs. also, I find it funny that people have to buy content for games like Call of duty 4 on xbox 360 when people on Pcs can just got get it without forking up any form of cards.

There is nothing we can do, though. we already took the bait, and now they are reeling us in. Mad about the cost of xbox live? blame the first 9000 players for even paying for halo 2 online. . .

(Oh, and no, i don't care about PS3 online, thank you)

Aslyum_Beast

i hate that i have to pay for my gold and gt subscriptions and they force developers to put fees on there dlc that they want to give out for free like epics games didnt want make any fees for dlc for gears and bungie was angry for the price that they had to put there ledgendery map pack and the price of every (accesories) M$ give us a break i bought a x360 just to play gta iv and other console exclusives then to find out i wanted more and every started to suck! who else doesn't like this :[

Captyc

Don't be so soft, Live is less than four quid a month. And of course you have to pay for dlc! Would you want to work for free? Well neither do game dev's or dlc server providers.

We get a good deal (at least it's not PSN, my PS3 feels malnourished when it comes to online service!)

i don't have a problem paying for live but i do hate paying for game content. the PC has free mods that the 360 would have to pay for. iam2green

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="patrickhorta87"]

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

patrickhorta87

yeah so he expects to get a group of maps fro free when we paid 60 for gear new and that was our little gift for buying it new.

I need to clear up all the BS im reading on here.

develepors like Epic, Bungie and Valve actually wanted there DLC to be free but M$ forces them to charge the consumer.

Halo 1 included 20+ maps. Halo 3 shipped with a measly 11 maps witholding the rest for purchase. Halo 3 was unfinished and still made megamillions. Is it so hard for M$ to hook the fans with free maps?

Lastly, theres no way you can convice me that we should be charged for gamerpics?

Stopped paying for Live Gold a few months ago.

Whats the point when i can play titles on my PC, or yes PS3 for free online, instead of dealing with extra fees - that cost as much as a new release title here.

Never pay for what should be free content (they make a killing off what should be simple map packs, to extend the longevity of games, and boost communities).

MS are greedy; Braids creator raised this with his own Braid theme being forced to have a price tag.

i hate that i have to pay for my gold and gt subscriptions and they force developers to put fees on there dlc that they want to give out for free like epics games didnt want make any fees for dlc for gears and bungie was angry for the price that they had to put there ledgendery map pack and the price of every (accesories) M$ give us a break i bought a x360 just to play gta iv and other console exclusives then to find out i wanted more and every started to suck! who else doesn't like this :[

Captyc

I need to clear up all the BS im reading on here.

develepors like Epic, Bungie and Valve actually wanted there DLC to be free but M$ forces them to charge the consumer.

Halo 1 included 20+ maps. Halo 3 shipped with a measly 11 maps witholding the rest for purchase. Halo 3 was unfinished and still made megamillions. Is it so hard for M$ to hook the fans with free maps?

Lastly, theres no way you can convice me that we should be charged for gamerpics?

[QUOTE="BLAS1AN"]

I need to clear up all the BS im reading on here.

develepors like Epic, Bungie and Valve actually wanted there DLC to be free but M$ forces them to charge the consumer.

Halo 1 included 20+ maps. Halo 3 shipped with a measly 11 maps witholding the rest for purchase. Halo 3 was unfinished and still made megamillions. Is it so hard for M$ to hook the fans with free maps?

Lastly, theres no way you can convice me that we should be charged for gamerpics?

Lance_Kalzas

Yes it costs more $$$ to make games today but so did game prices. Halo franchise made megamillions for M$ off the game and merchandise. Dont you think Microsft made enough from it to give us the "unfinished maps" for free?

I have no problem with paying for xbox LIVE or content that would extend the games length but when developers want to give us the extra content for free and Microsoft says NO... dont you see that as being a bit greedy?