Why do you hate campers?

there is WAY more camping in MW2 than there is in MW1. at the beginning i understood because every one was new to it etc. but now its like no one wants to stand up and shoot any more, i dont get it whats so fun about sitting in the corner and shooting people that walk by? almost every time i die is because i get shot in the back (due to weird spawns or some guy sitting in a random corner, i seriously have been spawned in front of the other team and right behind them wtf?) in any case if they fix the spawns i will not complain about campers in MW2 again.lil_d_mack_314

I only get annoyed when the majority of a team is camping. One or two campers, big deal, but a whole team just makes the game boring. I can understand it in game types where there is something to be defended or limited/zero respawns. But in Team Deathmatch when a whole team is just camping in one structure, it makes the game dull. There is so much that goes into every map in Modern Warfare 2, I don't want to spend the whole game fighting in the same two door ways.

Just think if everyone camped then no one would get any kills and the match would be slow and quiet. BORING!!!

If the hole game camps, the game ends in 0-0.

If people who want to actually play a game and make sure games don't end 0-0 for everyone in the game, they go out. And we usually get killed by campers, Sure I always kill a camper the second time, but usually someone else kills him by then, and It's a death that I don't really deserve for getting some action going.

I play Battlefield games, so theres no such thing as campers!

If someone tries to camp, I just blow their house up and take them out, easy kills really.

I play Battlefield games, so theres no such thing as campers!

If someone tries to camp, I just blow their house up and take them out, easy kills really.

Grif-yes

Wow everyone here that hates campers must REALLY hate me then, because I always have scavenger perk, so I set my claymore up and camp. Then I kill people. Then once someone dies on my claymore, I just walk over their dead body, get another claymore and set it back up. Rinse, wash, and repeat. By doing this I call in missles, choppers, AC-130, and to me those are fun.

I do this because to me it is fun to go 30-6 - 22-4 - 27-7 - sometimes 30-2. Why would I want to run around and go 22-22? I am sorry but I like to kill more than I die. It is not more fun to me to run around and kill just as much as I die. The fact is when I run around in FFA as soon as I kill someone, someone else is shooting me in the back.

I suggest all the people that hate campers get over it, and just finda way to get us out of our spot.

No, I don't hate campers. I don't camp myself but I hate the amount of whining about campers. There are hiders and there are seekers.

Face it people...if you give the option to people to go wherever they want in a video game there will be camping. It's just human nature. There's never going to be some univeral agreement or terms of use that state camping is wrong. It is never going to go away as long as first person shooters exist.

Personally I think the argument that it is a lack of skill is ridiculous. As far as I'm concerned you should never be killed by a camper more than once or twice. If you don't know how to find / flank / grenade out a camper then you my friend lack the skill. As I was saying, hiders and seekers. You can study the mindset and psychology of people who play FPSs and it will only promise you that camping will always be there.The way I see you guys should be glad you have UAV and killcam for MW2.

Adapt and overcome, that's my two cents.

SnipeyMcSnipe

This. And for those that don't like campers you may want to try out some historical shooters were you can all line up in a line and shoot at each other from across the field, no hiding or sneaking just straight up testosterone. Honestly I'm not gonna get dragged into this one (this will be my only post) as it's the exact arguement that made me leave the Modern Warfare 2 boards. I honestly couldn't take the whining and complaining. That said I'll mention this. What's fun for some isn't what's fun for everyone. So if you don't like to stay still and wait for your kills and you think it's dumb and boring... well more than likely the "campers" think how you play is stupid and ridiculous. See it goes both ways, and more than likely they think you're ruining the game for them. Get over it.

I don't camp alot. Camping gets boring after awhile. If there's a camper, find a way to flush him out or just ignore them and they'll come out eventually.

I'm fine with it the first couple of times. But if I keep getting killed by campers (not just the same guy) then its time to get my Tar w/Noobtube, Rocket launcher (dont remember what the first one called) Semtex 'nade with Scavenger Pro, Danger Close Pro, and Commando pro. Usually gets the job done against campers :P

I don't find campers really annoying at all. you can always just go around or find a different route to take. I do hate how in demolition once you take one objective it is almost impossible to take the 2nd because the other team just spawns their and they all take a corner and wait for your team to try and plant. That [isses me off.

With the level design of MW2, nobody should really be complaining. It's been mentioned umpteen times that you can simply kill them because they're stationary. Plus, if two people smartly rush a camper, they shouldn't have a chance.

I don't camp (i.e. stay in one spot/building), but I do play more cautiously than most players. Sort of a nice balance between the two extremes ... and it seems to work.

It doesn't take skill to do it.

Charging in and getting 3 headshots in a row with an asault rilfe in Battlefield Bad Company 2 Beta, now that takes skill.

i hate people who complain about campers more, especially since in every game i have won someone on the other team calls my team campers. oh, so sorry we stayed in the house in estate while you rushed up like idiots over andover again. i guess i should have run out to the middle to get killed instead...

Campers aren't winners, it's that simple

The only reason to play a game should be to win but campers play not to lose. They don't gain anything and slow down the experience for everyone else.

They purposely set themselves out of harm's way and avoid as much of the action as possible relying on playing some sort of pseudo "peekaboo" game rather then trying to win the game

Campers aren't winners, it's that simpleJaysonguy

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Campers aren't winners, it's that simple

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Campers aren't winners, it's that simplecraigalan23

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Campers aren't winners, it's that simple

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Campers aren't winners, it's that simple

I don't really care if a person camp unless they are exploiting a glitch. I camp sometimes.

Besides, in the end do you want to be the one who wins, who has the better stats, or the one who played the game the supposed "fair" way and lost?The_Blockey_One

you cant throw a flash into every room you go in to because you only have like 5 flashbang grenades.i hate them cos you are beating them and then they just sit round a corner (lack of skill) and just kill people.if the people who made cod mod 2 and other games wanted people to camp then wouldnt they have made smaller maps?people who sniper arent campers just that they use there brains.

Becuase i dont buy shooters to play Hide-N-Seek?

jad206

I don't care about whether or not people camp. If this game is supposed to be the most modern tactical war game around then I don't blame people for thinking tactically.The_Blockey_One

i laughed at that, heard of a game called operation flashpoint by any chance?

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lack of skill.

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lack of skill.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="vp22"] this wwervin

In other words, he's saying thatthere is only one way for people to play the game..........hahaha. That's why there are multiple perks to choose from, a plethera of different guns and classes to create as a result,multifaceted level designs for different types of play and strategy, various game types, etc., etc. It makes perfect sense that everyone should develop the same type of strategy in order to make your experience more entertaining. NICE TRY.

What i've learned from this and other camping threads:

Story 1 - campers suck because they sit in a corner and kill you when you run by and you barely have any way to get them because they find a spot that's hard to clear
Story 2 - I don't mind campers at all because I can flank them and then kill them easily

Story 1 - campers have no skill, they just sit and wait for there kills to come to them
Story 2 - I don't mind campers because once I know they are camping I can simply go around them

I could go on, but you get the point. The bottom line is that I don't understand how some people complain about campers while others seem to have no problem with them. Is it because the complainers simply aren't skilled enough to beat the campers?

I don't even have to put a counterpoint to this as the arguement that camping is boring is just stupid, here's why... wait for it....Because it's only boring to some. Some people prefer to play that way and find it more fun than Spray and Pray killing but no one seems to complain about them. I'm not sure if anyone knows this but in real life it would be tactically sound and advisable to

1. find a spot were you're relatively safe and stay there until there's a reason to
2. camp a chokepoint to cut off your enemies progress and to hinder there movement
3. (sniper camping) stay as far away from the battle and danger as you can and kill as many as you can while again controling the battles movement.

I'm for both types of play but man you anti campers complain a lot. Some people find it fun and it's just as right as the way you want to play it. The maps, weapons and common sense say your wrong in thinking it's not legit.

As mentioned earlier and I agree with, some people consider the only "skilled" way to play that of twitch gaming... my finger is faster at aiming than yours therefor I'm better. Well I hate to tell you this but for the amount of time it took you to see others and aim is probably the amount of time that lag has changed the dynamics of that shoot out anyway. Yeah people can say I play with no lag at all, really? Cause i'd be willing to bet that a lot of people that think they have no lag actually have lag, just not enough that theyrealize it's effecting there game. In a twitch shootout i'm willing to bet that the milliseconds add up quickly. Therefor the most "skilled" gamers in that type of game are the host and the ones with the fastest/cleanist connection.So at this moment I declare that the host is always the most skilled gamer and should be viewed as such.

If I were someone would was getting say 100 to 130 ms connection in my game i'd probably be more weary of the run and gun type of game as there's bound to be people playing in the 60 ms range that should always have the advantage over me.

Don't believe me, I get a seemless and smooth connection that I would say doesn't hinder my game at all. But why then does the killcam always show something different than what I see happining. Maybe not by much but hey even 1 bullet is a world of difference when you're up in someones face being "skilled".

Yeah, I said I was only gonna post once .... I got bored.

I kinda camp sometimes, but only really when guarding choke points. If you're stupid enough to keep running through the same choke without changing your strategy, then you deserve to get killed.

IT'S A LEGITIMATE STRATEGY!!!11!!11!...please don't flame me, it was a joke.

What i've learned from this and other camping threads:

Story 1 - campers suck because they sit in a corner and kill you when you run by and you barely have any way to get them because they find a spot that's hard to clear
Story 2 - I don't mind campers at all because I can flank them and then kill them easily

Story 1 - campers have no skill, they just sit and wait for there kills to come to them
Story 2 - I don't mind campers because once I know they are camping I can simply go around them

I could go on, but you get the point. The bottom line is that I don't understand how some people complain about campers while others seem to have no problem with them. Is it because the complainers simply aren't skilled enough to beat the campers?

I don't even have to put a counterpoint to this as the arguement that camping is boring is just stupid, here's why... wait for it....Because it's only boring to some. Some people prefer to play that way and find it more fun than Spray and Pray killing but no one seems to complain about them. I'm not sure if anyone knows this but in real life it would be tactically sound and advisable to

1. find a spot were you're relatively safe and stay there until there's a reason to
2. camp a chokepoint to cut off your enemies progress and to hinder there movement
3. (sniper camping) stay as far away from the battle and danger as you can and kill as many as you can while again controling the battles movement.

I'm for both types of play but man you anti campers complain a lot. Some people find it fun and it's just as right as the way you want to play it. The maps, weapons and common sense say your wrong in thinking it's not legit.

As mentioned earlier and I agree with, some people consider the only "skilled" way to play that of twitch gaming... my finger is faster at aiming than yours therefor I'm better. Well I hate to tell you this but for the amount of time it took you to see others and aim is probably the amount of time that lag has changed the dynamics of that shoot out anyway. Yeah people can say I play with no lag at all, really? Cause i'd be willing to bet that a lot of people that think they have no lag actually have lag, just not enough that theyrealize it's effecting there game. In a twitch shootout i'm willing to bet that the milliseconds add up quickly. Therefor the most "skilled" gamers in that type of game are the host and the ones with the fastest/cleanist connection.So at this moment I declare that the host is always the most skilled gamer and should be viewed as such.

If I were someone would was getting say 100 to 130 ms connection in my game i'd probably be more weary of the run and gun type of game as there's bound to be people playing in the 60 ms range that should always have the advantage over me.

Don't believe me, I get a seemless and smooth connection that I would say doesn't hinder my game at all. But why then does the killcam always show something different than what I see happining. Maybe not by much but hey even 1 bullet is a world of difference when you're up in someones face being "skilled".

Yeah, I said I was only gonna post once .... I got bored.

rgsniper1

And we shall call it "Common Sense"! Wait, that name has already been uses, haha.

And yet, people still find ways to argue against campers. Too many children playing an "M" rated game, as far as I'm concerned.

Camping is a sad thing to see in a video game like come on how boring is it that you run to the same corner everytime your on this map its just sad.