why fallout 3 is better than new vegas (spoilers alert)

Interesting opinion.

O_0 thats uhhh really long for a first post.....and yes fallout 3 is much better more power armor focused =)

I could list a whole bunch of reasons why I don't agree, but I think one of the strongest reasons I preferred New Vegas to Fallout 3 is that NV actually felt like a part of the Fallout series, while Fallout 3 felt like an irrelevant and nonsensical spin-off.

Oh, and I disliked Fallout 3's story because it was essentially just a mashed-together version of the first two games, plus the father story. Water purification and super-mutants were already done in Fallout 1, and the Enclave and the GECK were done in Fallout 2...so Fallout 3 really didn't have much new on offer (nor did it make much sense that the mutant would be there in the first place, or why all of the factions were much more stupid/simplistic).

...and before this starts turning into a list, I've got to say that New Vegas definitely had better roleplaying. Fallout 3's choices ranged from the black-and-white (Megaton) to the broken/restrained/plot-hole-y (the final sacrifice) - it was far more interesting to choose between NV's factions, especially after seeing what the NCR had become.

so. much. reading.

Mate, I doubt you'll get flamed, a lot of people are going to agree with you. New Vegas was a massive let down, I only hope they don't do the same with Skyrim :Sxoneringx

tl;dr.

tl;dr.

Drakebunny

I with you.

I could list a whole bunch of reasons why I don't agree, but I think one of the strongest reasons I preferred New Vegas to Fallout 3 is that NV actually felt like a part of the Fallout series, while Fallout 3 felt like an irrelevant and nonsensical spin-off.

Oh, and I disliked Fallout 3's story because it was essentially just a mashed-together version of the first two games, plus the father story. Water purification and super-mutants were already done in Fallout 1, and the Enclave and the GECK were done in Fallout 2...so Fallout 3 really didn't have much new on offer (nor did it make much sense that the mutant would be there in the first place, or why all of the factions were much more stupid/simplistic).

...and before this starts turning into a list, I've got to say that New Vegas definitely had better roleplaying. Fallout 3's choices ranged from the black-and-white (Megaton) to the broken/restrained/plot-hole-y (the final sacrifice) - it was far more interesting to choose between NV's factions, especially after seeing what the NCR had become.

Planeforger

[QUOTE="xoneringx"]Mate, I doubt you'll get flamed, a lot of people are going to agree with you. New Vegas was a massive let down, I only hope they don't do the same with Skyrim :SPlaneforger

Quite a bit of reading there fella. But I so agree and say Fallout 3 is better. When i first played it, It blew my mind away and I was totally engaged in it. New Vegas is still good though, but It was what i was expecting.

Fallout new Vegas had great ideas but it lacked the key element. . . fun. Fallout 3's buildings actually had a story to them and you actually wanted to explore them. The awe inspiring prewar monuments with twists such as the museum becoming a entire city of ghouls, the creepy dunwich building and it's dark secrets, the struggling village of arefu, the eerily unsettling 50's archetype towns that were nuked to hell. Plus the seemingly normal 50s family in Andale. . . who are also cannibals. As we all know these are just a few examples. Fallout 3 had a more epic story. Okay I know I'll get flame for this but hear me out. In fallout 3 you were involved in an epic struggle between the enclave and the brotherhood of steel with the super mutants at the throats of both who are coming in mass seemingly out of nowhere. Many settlements like bigtown and arefu are struggling just to survive against hostile wildlife let alone mini hulks that can use guns. So what happens? You. The bad ass vault 101 guy comes in and cleans house all the while your great deeds. . . or misdeeds are reported on radio by three dog giving you a satisfying sense of accomplishment. I can see how some people can like new Vegas' story but not me. Let's face it, if everybody stopped **** each other over for two seconds everything would be fine, about the only town that is really in a bind is Sloan and that's because the morons won't give up there job for the slight inconvenience of a DEATHCLAW ATTACK. Nothing I do really seems to serve much of a purpose, sure once in a while Wayne newton reports monotonously what you do on the radio about what you did but by the end of the game I was thinking. . . wait I got who a new sheriff. . . oh that place. . .yeah. In fallout new Vegas I just felt like a politician with guns and frankly non of the sides appeal to me, that might be okay with this if it were actually believable. The whole if you side with faction A the brotherhood must die but if you side with faction B good springs will suffer often felt contrived at times just to give you the shaft at the end. I suppose this can appeal to some but in the words of little buster "I'm a little sensitive about my **** Fallout 3 had funner side quests Fallout 3 had longer, bigger side quests with better back stories Fallout NV side quests: Kill nameless thugs then trek halfway across the desert to talk to some guy about getting a sherff, literally gets 10 seconds of air time on the radio which is unexciting and repeats far to much. short quest to get a power plant up and running, no radio coverage, no real consequence no matter what, the robots were pretty fun to destroy but that's about it Fallout 3 side quests Help out a boy running away from something and being led into a town with giant ants. . .THAT BREATH FIRE as you discover there origins in a fairly long quirky story with a pretty epic boss battle if you decided to kill the ant queen. Deliver a girls letter to her parents to find that they are dead, the same ragtag village is under siege and the plots thickens from there with the boy being "kidnapped" by a secret gang of cannibals/vampires Think I'm exaggerating how repetitive and bland radio NV is Take a loot at the disparity of the amount of dialog between 3 dog and Mr new Vegas http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Radio_New_Vegas http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_News_Radio Not even close Fallout 3 has more memorable moments Such as More or less telling Colonel Autumn to eat a dick by giving him the wrong password Marching next to a fifty foot tall robot spouting anti communist phrases while he shoots lasers from his eyes and throws mini nukes like footballs Killing the behemoth at GNR with the fat man. Tranquility lane Seeing Oasis Fallout new Vegas just didn't have this for me, the closest it came was when me and Boone saved bitter springs, the final battle might have been if it got some creativity instead of just you fighting waves of generic troops then a brief conversation before killing the enemy general, I'll admit thought it was pretty fun insulting legate lanius Fallout 3 is awesome. . . pretty broad I know but there is no other way to describe it These are all the little things that make up the big picture, three dog talking about my "shotgun diplomacy" the way he reacts to your characters actions, As I good character I liked hearing his praise of me and if you like being a bad character you should like him as well, I mean the guy makes you out to be the Darth Vader of the wastes. I love the blend of the retro the sci-fi and the in jokes that to me compliment a serious story rather than hinder it most often. I liked all the little nuances likes andale and how they are just a seemingly normal family. . . but what is in that locked cellar and how they always subtlety let you know that something is a bit off here. I got that vibe in Andale. When Mr Burke was talking to me in Megaton I just know he's up to no good even before he started talking about blowing up the town Same With John Henry Eden, his voice is very soothing but you just get the feeling something isn't right, like this is propaganda and his vision of restoring America might not be what you would expect Now fallout 3 has often been criticized for it's voice acting (though since this is NV vs fallout 3 its irrelevant because they both have been criticized for bad voice acting) But many of the voices especially the unique ones like john Henry Eden and Mr.Burke are skilled enough to put these thoughts into you just from the way they speak, when a voice actor can make me think not just about what they are saying but how they are saying it that is a skilled voice actor. I liked how it combined sci-fi, a hint of western in some places, retro, horror and many other themes into various parts of the game. I didn't get the feeling that NV took these risks, it seemed largely like a straight forward western with some sci-fi mixed in and honestly It didn't always blend well IMO. Anyone agree? Disagree?Madax132

I don't mean to take away from your topic but did they ever fix some of the bugs with New Vegas?Wilfred_Owen

On the console versions? No

[QUOTE="Drakebunny"]

tl;dr.

Jagged3dge

I with you.

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[QUOTE="Drakebunny"]

tl;dr.

fm_coyote

I with you.

It was. I hate that people don't care enough about the topic to read about it, but DO care to make sure everyone knows they don't care enough to read it. On a side note. I totally agree with the post. I was really let down by vegas.fm_coyote

I hate that people care enough about how people don't care enough to read a topic, but they do care enough about said person's opinion to make another post about it.

Ave atque vale.

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"]It was. I hate that people don't care enough about the topic to read about it, but DO care to make sure everyone knows they don't care enough to read it. On a side note. I totally agree with the post. I was really let down by vegas.Drakebunny

I hate that people care enough about how people don't care enough to read a topic, but they do care enough about said person's opinion to make another post about it.

Ave atque vale.

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"]It was. I hate that people don't care enough about the topic to read about it, but DO care to make sure everyone knows they don't care enough to read it. On a side note. I totally agree with the post. I was really let down by vegas.Drakebunny

I hate that people care enough about how people don't care enough to read a topic, but they do care enough about said person's opinion to make another post about it.

Ave atque vale.

[QUOTE="Drakebunny"]

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"]It was. I hate that people don't care enough about the topic to read about it, but DO care to make sure everyone knows they don't care enough to read it. On a side note. I totally agree with the post. I was really let down by vegas.fm_coyote

I hate that people care enough about how people don't care enough to read a topic, but they do care enough about said person's opinion to make another post about it.

Ave atque vale.

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"][QUOTE="Drakebunny"]

I hate that people care enough about how people don't care enough to read a topic, but they do care enough about said person's opinion to make another post about it.

Ave atque vale.

Skampp

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[QUOTE="fm_coyote"] Witty retort sir. However, my post was also a response to the conversation. Not simply there for the sole reason of trying to look cool on the internet. Hats off to you indeed.fm_coyote

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"][QUOTE="Skampp"]ooooh how delightful an exquisite battle of wits i must say :P

Skampp

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[QUOTE="fm_coyote"] Gotta have fun somewhere no? lol.fm_coyote

Looks like I'll have to wear my monocle to be able to post in this thread any more, good sirs and/or madames

Looks like I'll have to wear my monocle to be able to post in this thread any more, good sirs and/or madames

Rhino53

Looks like I'll have to wear my monocle to be able to post in this thread any more, good sirs and/or madames

Rhino53

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Looks like I'll have to wear my monocle to be able to post in this thread any more, good sirs and/or madames

Skampp