Why is the gaming industry rushing games???

I come into the forum expecting people to talk about games like Too Human, or Prince of Persia and I see Gears 2? Really that game was an improvement over gears 1. Games that filled rushed to me are RE 5, Too Human etc they have potential but it is easy to tell they'd have done better given an extra year even.DarthBlivion

lets get this straight, you think RE5 is being rushed? Resident Evil 4 came out in 05 buddy. That isnt rushed and i bet money RE5 will be as good as RE4 because they spent some quality time on it. and i thought too human was in development for like 8 years or somthing, im not sure but i know for a fact it was a crapload of time. It wasnt because they were lazy its because they never made an attempt at a game like that, whereas my arguement comes from SEQUELS! Games that were already good, BUT they were crapped it up. And please let me know why gears2 is better than gears1, really id like to know what in the **** you were thinking.:question:

[QUOTE="DarthBlivion"]I come into the forum expecting people to talk about games like Too Human, or Prince of Persia and I see Gears 2? Really that game was an improvement over gears 1. Games that filled rushed to me are RE 5, Too Human etc they have potential but it is easy to tell they'd have done better given an extra year even.Lamb-of-God

lets get this straight, you think RE5 is being rushed? Resident Evil 4 came out in 05 buddy. That isnt rushed and i bet money RE5 will be as good as RE4 because they spent some quality time on it. and i thought too human was in development for like 8 years or somthing, im not sure but i know for a fact it was a crapload of time. It wasnt because they were lazy its because they never made an attempt at a game like that, whereas my arguement comes from SEQUELS! Games that were already good, BUT they were crapped it up. And please let me know why gears2 is better than gears1, really id like to know what in the **** you were thinking.:question:

RE 5 looks rushed, whether it is or isn't it looks plenty rushed. Gears 2 put more emphasis on the character's personal stories, it had more variety in the action sequences through out the campaign.

All round it was a much more fun experience and the sense of urgency was better portrayed through out the game. Not to mention the gameplay additions, that added depth to the experience. It has it's drawback like Elimination games online, but other online events like Horde are a welcome new addition.

Overall it added gameplay elements, improved the personal stories and told a better overall tale than Gears 1, no one is saying it's perfect but it feels a lot less rushed than something like RE5 or Too Human.

[QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"]

[QUOTE="DarthBlivion"]I come into the forum expecting people to talk about games like Too Human, or Prince of Persia and I see Gears 2? Really that game was an improvement over gears 1. Games that filled rushed to me are RE 5, Too Human etc they have potential but it is easy to tell they'd have done better given an extra year even.DarthBlivion

lets get this straight, you think RE5 is being rushed? Resident Evil 4 came out in 05 buddy. That isnt rushed and i bet money RE5 will be as good as RE4 because they spent some quality time on it. and i thought too human was in development for like 8 years or somthing, im not sure but i know for a fact it was a crapload of time. It wasnt because they were lazy its because they never made an attempt at a game like that, whereas my arguement comes from SEQUELS! Games that were already good, BUT they were crapped it up. And please let me know why gears2 is better than gears1, really id like to know what in the **** you were thinking.:question:

RE 5 looks rushed, whether it is or isn't it looks plenty rushed. Gears 2 put more emphasis on the character's personal stories, it had more variety in the action sequences through out the campaign.

All round it was a much more fun experience and the sense of urgency was better portrayed through out the game. Not to mention the gameplay additions, that added depth to the experience. It has it's drawback like Elimination games online, but other online events like Horde are a welcome new addition.

Overall it added gameplay elements, improved the personal stories and told a better overall tale than Gears 1, no one is saying it's perfect but it feels a lot less rushed than something like RE5 or Too Human.

I still dont know where you are coming from calling RE5 rushed, it looks fantastic but thats your opinion I guess(let alone comparing it to something as garbage as Too Human), but gears of war 2 didnt put any emphasis on characters but dom, and it was silly and a major drawback as to the story I mean seriously it made the game corny if anything. They didnt even keep up with the story; I dont even know what happened to the queen, she just dropped completely. What is this crap about lambent locusts coming outta nowhere and they are killing one another? That made me laugh when epic pulled that out their butts. but to be honest my complaints about the game were machanics and multiplayer, the games a lot more clunky, you cant get matches until recently (depending on how true that is, havent tried nor do i care to), you cant choose gametypes anymore, graphics wise it looks more cartoony, and physics are terrible now( it used to be when you shotgunned someone in the head their entire body would backlash violently sending their legs in the air also when you blew someone away you could see a single leg stand by itself while the rest went everywhere else in messy fashion) you cant get that in gears2. O and another issue i have, whats the point of leaderboards if you cant even choose your gametype?

[QUOTE="DarthBlivion"][QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"]

lets get this straight, you think RE5 is being rushed? Resident Evil 4 came out in 05 buddy. That isnt rushed and i bet money RE5 will be as good as RE4 because they spent some quality time on it. and i thought too human was in development for like 8 years or somthing, im not sure but i know for a fact it was a crapload of time. It wasnt because they were lazy its because they never made an attempt at a game like that, whereas my arguement comes from SEQUELS! Games that were already good, BUT they were crapped it up. And please let me know why gears2 is better than gears1, really id like to know what in the **** you were thinking.:question:

Lamb-of-God

RE 5 looks rushed, whether it is or isn't it looks plenty rushed. Gears 2 put more emphasis on the character's personal stories, it had more variety in the action sequences through out the campaign.

All round it was a much more fun experience and the sense of urgency was better portrayed through out the game. Not to mention the gameplay additions, that added depth to the experience. It has it's drawback like Elimination games online, but other online events like Horde are a welcome new addition.

Overall it added gameplay elements, improved the personal stories and told a better overall tale than Gears 1, no one is saying it's perfect but it feels a lot less rushed than something like RE5 or Too Human.

I still dont know where you are coming from calling RE5 rushed, it looks fantastic but thats your opinion I guess(let alone comparing it to something as garbage as Too Human), but gears of war 2 didnt put any emphasis on characters but dom, and it was silly and a major drawback as to the story I mean seriously it made the game corny if anything. They didnt even keep up with the story; I dont even know what happened to the queen, she just dropped completely. What is this crap about lambent locusts coming outta nowhere and they are killing one another? That made me laugh when epic pulled that out their butts. but to be honest my complaints about the game were machanics and multiplayer, the games a lot more clunky, you cant get matches until recently (depending on how true that is, havent tried nor do i care to), you cant choose gametypes anymore, graphics wise it looks more cartoony, and physics are terrible now( it used to be when you shotgunned someone in the head their entire body would backlash violently sending their legs in the air also when you blew someone away you could see a single leg stand by itself while the rest went everywhere else in messy fashion) you cant get that in gears2. O and another issue i have, whats the point of leaderboards if you cant even choose your gametype?

You can choose your game type it just comes down to a vote, which is somewhat unfair amd if you have a draw in votes you've got to play submission (at least in Elimination).

As for the rest of your complaints, those are purely aesthetical overall Gears 2 was more action packed with bigger action sequences and larger enemies. Variety is the spice of life and Gears 2 had more variety in than Gears 1.

[QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"][QUOTE="DarthBlivion"]

RE 5 looks rushed, whether it is or isn't it looks plenty rushed. Gears 2 put more emphasis on the character's personal stories, it had more variety in the action sequences through out the campaign.

All round it was a much more fun experience and the sense of urgency was better portrayed through out the game. Not to mention the gameplay additions, that added depth to the experience. It has it's drawback like Elimination games online, but other online events like Horde are a welcome new addition.

Overall it added gameplay elements, improved the personal stories and told a better overall tale than Gears 1, no one is saying it's perfect but it feels a lot less rushed than something like RE5 or Too Human.

DarthBlivion

I still dont know where you are coming from calling RE5 rushed, it looks fantastic but thats your opinion I guess(let alone comparing it to something as garbage as Too Human), but gears of war 2 didnt put any emphasis on characters but dom, and it was silly and a major drawback as to the story I mean seriously it made the game corny if anything. They didnt even keep up with the story; I dont even know what happened to the queen, she just dropped completely. What is this crap about lambent locusts coming outta nowhere and they are killing one another? That made me laugh when epic pulled that out their butts. but to be honest my complaints about the game were machanics and multiplayer, the games a lot more clunky, you cant get matches until recently (depending on how true that is, havent tried nor do i care to), you cant choose gametypes anymore, graphics wise it looks more cartoony, and physics are terrible now( it used to be when you shotgunned someone in the head their entire body would backlash violently sending their legs in the air also when you blew someone away you could see a single leg stand by itself while the rest went everywhere else in messy fashion) you cant get that in gears2. O and another issue i have, whats the point of leaderboards if you cant even choose your gametype?

You can choose your game type it just comes down to a vote, which is somewhat unfair amd if you have a draw in votes you've got to play submission (at least in Elimination).

As for the rest of your complaints, those are purely aesthetical overall Gears 2 was more action packed with bigger action sequences and larger enemies. Variety is the spice of life and Gears 2 had more variety in than Gears 1.

Not at all, your just blind to fact, you can say what you want I have proof, im done with your ignorance.

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?sixgears2

I can understand your opinion on that but the question I have is was the story/plot itself entertaining for you?

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?sixgears2

I agree. Rainbow Six Vegas 2 feels like an add-on. I can't tell the difference besides, the multiplayer perks for single player(weapons, ranks and customization) and the sprint button. Hopefully, they put more work into Rainbow Six 7(Please don't be Vegas 3!!!!).

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

Phoenix534

[QUOTE="sixgears2"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="sixgears2"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

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At the end of Vegas, it said, To Be Continued and it set up for a perfect continuation. I haven't finished Vegas 2, but so far I don't see a continuation. I was excited when I got Vegas 2 as I'm a bit of a story-maniac. I started and the first thing I notice was no Logan!!! What the heck! The custom character was cool, but not for Story Mode. Don't make this mistake again UbiSoft. And also, keep Scott Mitchell for Advanced Warfighter 3(which needs to be made).

Lamb, so after catching up in this thread by reading all of the posts, I am very curious and thus have a question. Epic said they fixed how powerful the shotgun was. Were you one of those that depended on it or are you more of a skillful player than that and would avoid rolling around blasting away? I ask because I've heard how cheap and lame that was so I became curious. Makes me realize that Halo 3 MP, Team Fortress 2(I know this is true because of someone in my friend list that plays it extensively) and, possibly COD MP in general but not 100% sure on that(I've only played the MP once), take a lot more skill than just rolling around with a shotty. Whether you did that or not, please don't take offense because I'm just curious. Most of the people who have posted complaints about the MP that I've read were complaining about not being able to play like that anymore and I think that's a good thing because it makes it far more fair for everyone else. The lag in the matchmaking? You're right, it's absolutely inexcusable but the campaign saw gigantic improvements. Multiple cinema scenes were very cool and the scene with Dom and his wife was pretty sad. Personally, I don't like Gears 1 or 2 MP, like I said I prefer Halo 3. I really enjoy Gears 2 Horde mode though, that's a lot of fun. I thought the Gears 2 campaign was significantly improved over the 1st one. There was a lot more plot development both in the story and the characters. Not liking how they did it is entirely your cool and pretty much just opinions that are still subjective. By the way, Too Human was in development for ten years and hopped several consoles and graphics engines in the process, which is why I think it received such a poor score. Considering how much time was actually spent developing it for the game engine that it was released with, it wasn't in development long enough.Lance_Kalzas

I really liked the shotgun a lot but I did not rely on it, I didnt have any complaints with the shotgun. I will say i would rely on my shotgun above all other weapons you start with, but I feel a lot better when i get a torque bow or a sniper, im really really good at both, and dont get me wrong, dont count out the pistol it is a great weapon as well...i dont prefer the lancer though, but its not a complaint of mine about the sequel( i didnt like it in either game) but i did know how to use it, i am good at gears its just gears2 let me down a lot, i had high expectations for it and i felt they did not do as good of a job as they could have. Yes it does enrage me, it is not that im bad at gears 2 i was pretty good, but it wasnt even close to being as fun as gears 1.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

sixgears2

What you just said is what happened. I mean gears 2 and vegas 2 didnt score bad but that doesnt mean they as good and that is where the deception is at. And isnt our approval what keeps them in business? Think about what you are saying.

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

What you just said is what happened. I mean gears 2 and vegas 2 didnt score bad but that doesnt mean they as good and that is where the deception is at. And isnt our approval what keeps them in business? Think about what you are saying.

Is it me or do games that are coming out starting to seem rushed and under-developed. My favorite game, gears of war was one of these exceptions. To me gears 2 was a flop and it very much upsets me. Vegas2 was also rushed. These were going to be great games if the development teams had not rushed them from development. to store shelves The reason I am writing this is because im afraid they are going to do it again! Modern Warfare was a great game and i truelly appreciated the multiplayer concept \ (as the competitive multiplayer dude I am) but this game seems like it is going to come out WAY before it should. I mean think about how fast vegas2 and gears2 came out. To me it obviously showed when it hit shelves, they were lackluster in comparision to their predecessors. Im tired of it and I dont want to see it happen again to another game I love.Lamb-of-God

I thought GoW2 had a better campaign than 1, and the horde mode was great too, though the multiplayer did need a few more months in development.

The only 2 companies that i trust these days are Blizzard and Capcom, that's it, even Valve proved how greedy they can be by releasing a Counter-Strike: Source mod called Left4dead for the price of 60 bucks.

The only 2 companies that i trust these days are Blizzard and Capcom, that's it, even Valve proved how greedy they can be by releasing a Counter-Strike: Source mod called Left4dead for the price of 60 bucks.

great_rulo

I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else. The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.dukebd699

They're releasing games faster and faster because the average consumer doesn't want to wait 4-5years for agme to come out . . . I personally don't mind waiting that long because you usually end up with a GREAT game, like Metal Gear Solid 4 or Killzone 2 (at least it looks that way).ace070590

YESSIR

The only 2 companies that i trust these days are Blizzard and Capcom, that's it, even Valve proved how greedy they can be by releasing a Counter-Strike: Source mod called Left4dead for the price of 60 bucks.

great_rulo

yeah i was wondering about that game it did look sketchy. btw i was a fan of capcom til devil may cry 4, i thought it was silly compared to 1 and 3, hell 2 was bad 4 was meh, maybe 5 will be awesome! re5 looks great though i think that will be a great game!

[QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"][QUOTE="sixgears2"] Aren't all corporations inherently greedy? I'm sorry, but all of you who are angry at game companies for trying to make money: what do you expect them to do? This is a capitalist society, and we all want to make money. The idea is that if an inferior product is released, you should pass it up and go for a better-made product. That's how the western economic system works. If you don't like it, think it has been rushed, or think there is something better out there, don't buy it...Hell, if I could sell you a rock for a million dollars and you were dumb enough to buy it, you bet I'd do it. So would you. So please stop blaming companies for trying to cash in on unwise consumers and read reviews and comments before you buy something. Or maybe we should just tell game publishers and devs that from now on they will not be getting paid and will instead have to live on your approval alone. sixgears2

What you just said is what happened. I mean gears 2 and vegas 2 didnt score bad but that doesnt mean they as good and that is where the deception is at. And isnt our approval what keeps them in business? Think about what you are saying.

if you are happy with mediocre garbage and happy as you say with them ripping you off spend away, i sir am not one of these people :D

It's all about the money, like garathe said. Companies want to make money off of the games (as much as humanly possible) and are still able to do that with a half-assed product. They know that people will keep buying their games, even if it is of lesser quality (I'm not talking lesser quality like Hour of Victory though). Especially sequels. The people funding the game don't want to continue funding for a long period of time and want to get what they paid for as quick as possible. They make sacrifices to save cash, as well as to try and get it. Ghost_702

[QUOTE="dukebd699"]I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else. The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.ace070590

[QUOTE="ace070590"][QUOTE="dukebd699"]I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else.The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.[/QUOTE]Dude, the economy is not really hitting anyone that hard . . . sure, it is true that unemployment is at a sixteen year high, 7.2 percent; however, this is NOT the highest in history. Basically, and the reason why a lot of politicians are inflating this economic crisis, is because Liberals wanted to get the "stimulus" package passed so that they can implement things that really have nothing to do with stimulating the economy; it is really to try and make this country socialist, which by the way, has never worked before and is not working now. I'm not saying this to bash Democrats and get into a political debate, but I'm saying this because the economy isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be . . . dukebd699

[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="ace070590"][QUOTE="dukebd699"]I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else.The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.[/QUOTE]Dude, the economy is not really hitting anyone that hard . . . sure, it is true that unemployment is at a sixteen year high, 7.2 percent; however, this is NOT the highest in history. Basically, and the reason why a lot of politicians are inflating this economic crisis, is because Liberals wanted to get the "stimulus" package passed so that they can implement things that really have nothing to do with stimulating the economy; it is really to try and make this country socialist, which by the way, has never worked before and is not working now. I'm not saying this to bash Democrats and get into a political debate, but I'm saying this because the economy isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be . . . ace070590

What you just said is what happened. I mean gears 2 and vegas 2 didnt score bad but that doesnt mean they as good and that is where the deception is at. And isnt our approval what keeps them in business? Think about what you are saying.

if you are happy with mediocre garbage and happy as you say with them ripping you off spend away, i sir am not one of these people :D

[QUOTE="dukebd699"]I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else. The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.ace070590

[QUOTE="ace070590"][QUOTE="dukebd699"]I don't know what anyone else has said but this is how I figure it. The economy is hitting the gaming business just as hard as everyone else. The problem with taking years to make a game now is that you will probably lose money as video game rentals and used game sales have become huge. When a company is in trouble(take the makers of Alone in the Dark for example, Atari I believe), they NEED to make money so they made Alone in the Dark as quick as possible but released it without testing for bugs(or at least they didn't work too hard to fix them) and unfortunately, the game suffers. IMO, DBZ and Alone in the Dark would've been alot better but they needed money so they rushed them and we ended up getting 2 decent games while they got alot of money. In this economy, they're doing what they need to survive.sixgears2

Is it me or do games that are coming out starting to seem rushed and under-developed. My favorite game, gears of war was one of these exceptions. To me gears 2 was a flop and it very much upsets me. Vegas2 was also rushed. These were going to be great games if the development teams had not rushed them from development. to store shelves The reason I am writing this is because im afraid they are going to do it again! Modern Warfare was a great game and i truelly appreciated the multiplayer concept \ (as the competitive multiplayer dude I am) but this game seems like it is going to come out WAY before it should. I mean think about how fast vegas2 and gears2 came out. To me it obviously showed when it hit shelves, they were lackluster in comparision to their predecessors. Im tired of it and I dont want to see it happen again to another game I love.Lamb-of-God

Gears 2 was far from a flop. More weapons, more enemies, longer campaign and the new horde mode actually make it a triumph. I think your whole argument applies more appropiately to the music industry. Now THERE IS a DISASTER.

Yeah, it's all about money now...gaming industries are caring less about being innovative. Main reason why I prefer older games, when everything hadn't been done before, kind of like moviesgarathe_den

[QUOTE="sixgears2"][QUOTE="ace070590"]Dude, the economy is not really hitting anyone that hard . . . sure, it is true that unemployment is at a sixteen year high, 7.2 percent; however, this is NOT the highest in history. Basically, and the reason why a lot of politicians are inflating this economic crisis, is because Liberals wanted to get the "stimulus" package passed so that they can implement things that really have nothing to do with stimulating the economy; it is really to try and make this country socialist, which by the way, has never worked before and is not working now. I'm not saying this to bash Democrats and get into a political debate, but I'm saying this because the economy isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be . . . Lance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"][QUOTE="sixgears2"] Yes, it is. But remember that the primary aim of these companies is to increase profits, not make you happy. That's why you don't buy a game if you don't approve of it instead of whining about how the company should not have released it a year later. That way, the sales show your disapproval and none of us have to waste our time complaining about the "evil" corporate schemes to "steal" our money. All companies want to make money, videogame or otherwise, andif the best way to do that is to rush a game out the door, they will do it. I don't think you can blame the companies for doing that. I'm not sure what you are trying to argue in terms of reviews....R6V2 and GeoW2 got generally favorable reviews because they were generally good games and I never said they weren't. Do I wish Ubi had done more with Vegas 2, of course. But do I blame them for rushing it out to try to cash in ont he remaining buzz from the first Vegas, not one bit. On the other hand, if a company rushed a game out and it got, say, all 6's, just don't buy it instead of lashing out at the company for rushing it.sixgears2

if you are happy with mediocre garbage and happy as you say with them ripping you off spend away, i sir am not one of these people :D

Your right I am having issues with your writing skills, but like I said before, if you are happy with the unfinished product go buy it, I will not be buying it. And why should I not be mad at them? I can be as upset as I want if they sold me a beta game for full retail price. Dont be mad at me because I dont agree with your small thought process.;)

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

sixgears2

I know that that's the point, but some companies care about the wants of the gamer. They don't release yearly rubish, but non-annual masterpieces, which might not make as much, but satisfy the customer.

if you are happy with mediocre garbage and happy as you say with them ripping you off spend away, i sir am not one of these people :D

Your right I am having issues with your writing skills, but like I said before, if you are happy with the unfinished product go buy it, I will not be buying it. And why should I not be mad at them? I can be as upset as I want if they sold me a beta game for full retail price. Dont be mad at me because I dont agree with your small thought process.;)

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[QUOTE="sixgears2"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Some game companies are greedy, uncaring corporations. They gain hype for their next "Leap in Gaming History" and then let you down at release. Although there are still reliable companies, such as Relic(PC RTS developer), Bethesda(Western RPG maker), Vavle(FPS makers, inventors of Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike), Lionhead Studios(British RPG maker, Fable and Fable II) and the companies behind Tom Clancy's titles(FPS, TPS, RTS and soon Combat Flight Simulator developer for UbiSoft). You can always trust that these companies spend time on their games and work to satisfy the customer, not their CEO's wallets.

I know that that's the point, but some companies care about the wants of the gamer. They don't release yearly rubish, but non-annual masterpieces, which might not make as much, but satisfy the customer.

[QUOTE="great_rulo"]

The only 2 companies that i trust these days are Blizzard and Capcom, that's it, even Valve proved how greedy they can be by releasing a Counter-Strike: Source mod called Left4dead for the price of 60 bucks.

moose_knuckler

I don't think the game itself is bad at all, but it can't compare to those other games Valve brought us for only 20-40 bucks, like Half-Life 1 and 2, Counter strike, Team Fortress and even Portal.

L4D was only 4 or 5 hours long with only the replay value to hold it longer, even then it wasn't as great as expected, the 10th time a Boomer puked on you passed from amazing experiences like "HOLY SH... everyone inside the house!!" to "damn, everyone, hold your left rigger until the zombies are all dead".