Why the possible 360 with HDMI is not a big deal.

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for ritzuki
ritzuki

27

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 ritzuki
Member since 2003 • 27 Posts
OK.  I can't sit back and listen to people complain and go back and forth over this anymore.  There is speculation that MS (Microsoft) will redo the Xbox 360 with an HDMI port.  Yes that will deliver the best in HD quality, bringing in the image at 1080p if you have an HDTV that will handle that.  That's great.  What isn't great is all these people crying about how people who already have a 360 are getting ripped off.  People, MS is not screwing you over.  Companies are allowed to update and better their product.  I've seen people say that it wont be so bad as long as MS will let you send in your current 360 and have them send you the new one.  That's like saying I should be able to bring back my '06 Honda and get an '07 just because they updated their product.  Yeah, it kinda sucks, but so if that's the worst thing that's going on in your life than you really shouldn't be complaining.  Besides, it's not even an official upgrade yet.  When MS announces that they will do this, then I'll consider trading in the 360 I have now, and just paying the difference.  Honestly, I don't even have a 1080p TV.  Mine tops out at 1080i, so I would probably upgrade my TV first.  I'm Morgan, and that was a minute.  ...Wait.  I'm not Morgan.  (Not too many people will get that, probably.)
Avatar image for bobbybritton89
bobbybritton89

215

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#2 bobbybritton89
Member since 2004 • 215 Posts

i wasnt too upset about it, but i know a lot of people were and the car example is perfect. well said. 

p.s. i woulda helped if u said morgan webb... maybe

Avatar image for FUBAR24
FUBAR24

12185

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#3 FUBAR24
Member since 2005 • 12185 Posts
agreed. dont complain.just get on with your gaming or buy one of the new ones
Avatar image for Oemenia
Oemenia

10416

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -2

User Lists: 0

#4 Oemenia
Member since 2003 • 10416 Posts
Its as silly as complaining about a price drop.
Avatar image for wildmatt
wildmatt

1242

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#5 wildmatt
Member since 2003 • 1242 Posts
yep, it's a really silly thing to complain about as many other systems went through this, the PS2's disk drive, the original xbox's disk drve and power supply, the ps1's disk drive... THE DS!!!! that's nowhere as near as the 360 having an HDMI port, it's not the next xbox, it's just a 360 with an HDMI port... wow, that will really change everything, unlike most people beleive 1080p IS possible with component.. anyways it's really the stupidest thing to complain about, because it was bound to happen

Oh another thing that some people complained about is the larger hard drive, actually that's way more stupid to complain about then the HDMI port because this was definately expected. It's modular, of course it'll be, sending your 20gb in and demanding MS to send you a bigger one won't work, they'll probably keep it just because your so stupid
Avatar image for II-FBIsniper-II
II-FBIsniper-II

18067

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#6 II-FBIsniper-II
Member since 2005 • 18067 Posts
Nice example with the car. Summed it up perfectly.
Avatar image for Rossdaboss777
Rossdaboss777

2417

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#7 Rossdaboss777
Member since 2005 • 2417 Posts
i know it happens all the time i mean look at cell phones our ipods it like all the time
Avatar image for ritzuki
ritzuki

27

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 ritzuki
Member since 2003 • 27 Posts
So.  I just read over my post and noticed that in a couple of spots the grammer was kind of... ungood.  I hate that.  But in my defense, I was giving my daughter a bath while typing on my laptop.
Avatar image for Generic_Dude
Generic_Dude

11707

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#9 Generic_Dude
Member since 2006 • 11707 Posts

OK.  I can't sit back and listen to people complain and go back and forth over this anymore.  There is speculation that MS (Microsoft) will redo the Xbox 360 with an HDMI port.  Yes that will deliver the best in HD quality, bringing in the image at 1080p if you have an HDTV that will handle that.  That's great.  What isn't great is all these people crying about how people who already have a 360 are getting ripped off.  People, MS is not screwing you over.  Companies are allowed to update and better their product.  I've seen people say that it wont be so bad as long as MS will let you send in your current 360 and have them send you the new one.  That's like saying I should be able to bring back my '06 Honda and get an '07 just because they updated their product.  Yeah, it kinda sucks, but so if that's the worst thing that's going on in your life than you really shouldn't be complaining.  Besides, it's not even an official upgrade yet.  When MS announces that they will do this, then I'll consider trading in the 360 I have now, and just paying the difference.  Honestly, I don't even have a 1080p TV.  Mine tops out at 1080i, so I would probably upgrade my TV first.  I'm Morgan, and that was a minute.  ...Wait.  I'm not Morgan.  (Not too many people will get that, probably.) ritzuki

Well put... but consider this...

The people who bought a black and white television weren't talking about how they were screwed by the manufacturer, but rather how magnificent it was that their moving picture box brought the world into their home in vivid TECHNICOLOR!

Don't believe it though... the television is the Devil's Dream Box.

Avatar image for HALFjap001
HALFjap001

471

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#11 HALFjap001
Member since 2006 • 471 Posts
Yeah, it kinda sucks, but so if that's the worst thing that's going on in your life than you really shouldn't be complaining.ritzuki
im not complaining... cause its not the worst thing 1. my parents are getting a divorce 2. i have to change schools (currently a 10th grader) 3. my grades are slipping... especially chemistry, OMG I HATE CHEM
Avatar image for menduco76
menduco76

650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#12 menduco76
Member since 2006 • 650 Posts

i wasnt too upset about it, but i know a lot of people were and the car example is perfect. well said. 

p.s. i woulda helped if u said morgan webb... maybe

bobbybritton89

wellllll i dont know about the car example being perfect.  The auto industry has been built around upgrading their cars every year...thats expected.  Every year there is a new model....with consoles there is a new model every 5 years. Plus, with video game consoles...changing them is a little tricky.  The main reason is its not kosher to have two different kinds of hardware out there running the same software.  The whole point of consoles is to have a standardized machine that everyone will have in common, so everyones games should in theory run exactly the same.  As soon as you start changing the hardware inside you might be opening up a can of worms.  Suddenly some games work better for one version than the other.  Once that starts happening you have some trouble in your hands.  Adding an HDMI port is not as simple as just soldering a port onto the back of the motherboard....there are additional chips and upgrades that are needed, essentially changing the motherboard.  So MS has to be careful about this. 

Cars come out every year...consoles come out every 5 years or so.   IF you had to buy a new console every year, you might as well pimp out your computer every 2 years and quit buying consoles.  People bought the x360 thinking they wouldnt need to buy another console for the next few years...then this happens.  I can understand why some people would be upset. 

Personally i wont be upset as long as the HDMI version costs more than $399....I paied $399 for the premium package...but if the new and improved xbox costs that much you can bet im gonna be pissed...cuz it hasnt even been a year since i bought my console. 

But then again, nothing is official....we have to wait and see what happens.  My guess is that there will be three versions of the x360, with the HDMI one being the most expensive. 

Avatar image for menduco76
menduco76

650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#14 menduco76
Member since 2006 • 650 Posts
I love my 360 im not complaining....but adding this stuff only only a year after its release is a little disapointing.  This is a huge change believe it or not....and it is unprecedented in console history.  Never has there been such an upgrade only one year after release.  Usually, those upgrades are left untill the NEXT generation.  People pointing out black and white tvs versus color tvs, or 06 hondas versus 07 hondas arent getting the point....those upgrades in those products are actually better compared to the upgrades seen from one genration of consoles to the next.  You shuoldnt feel like you have to buy TWO consoles within the SAME generation.  It would be more like Honda putting out a Civic 06, then 3 months later saying "oops...we forgot to add this feature...so here we present the Honda 06 version 2!"....i can guarantee you that more than a few honda owers will be unhappy about that.  Thats more like what we are looking at here.  If you are gonna make analogies, you have to think it through.
Avatar image for III-Rob-III
III-Rob-III

827

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 III-Rob-III
Member since 2007 • 827 Posts
I wish people would stop whining over hdtv in general, im still on a 28ich 60hz tv, and i cope just fine, so what if i cant see the stretch marks on the women in DOA
Avatar image for menduco76
menduco76

650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#16 menduco76
Member since 2006 • 650 Posts

I wish people would stop whining over hdtv in general, im still on a 28ich 60hz tv, and i cope just fine, so what if i cant see the stretch marks on the women in DOAIII-Rob-III

hahahaha nice one dude

Avatar image for incubusoccer
incubusoccer

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#17 incubusoccer
Member since 2005 • 25 Posts
first off it is possible to run 1080p w/ component cables.  also what of the rumors of the new 360 shipping with HD-DVD integrated.  THAT would be the main concern for current 360 owners, not some cable that most people wouldn't even be able to tell a difference with.  Also, the current disk drive on the 360 wouldn't let you run 1080p anyway.  that's why they made the HD-DVD attachment.  so quit worrying about the cable and start worrying about the disk drive.  that's what really matters.
Avatar image for ritzuki
ritzuki

27

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 ritzuki
Member since 2003 • 27 Posts

I love my 360 im not complaining....but adding this stuff only only a year after its release is a little disapointing.  This is a huge change believe it or not....and it is unprecedented in console history.  Never has there been such an upgrade only one year after release.  Usually, those upgrades are left untill the NEXT generation.  People pointing out black and white tvs versus color tvs, or 06 hondas versus 07 hondas arent getting the point....those upgrades in those products are actually better compared to the upgrades seen from one genration of consoles to the next.  You shuoldnt feel like you have to buy TWO consoles within the SAME generation.  It would be more like Honda putting out a Civic 06, then 3 months later saying "oops...we forgot to add this feature...so here we present the Honda 06 version 2!"....i can guarantee you that more than a few honda owers will be unhappy about that.  Thats more like what we are looking at here.  If you are gonna make analogies, you have to think it through.menduco76

I see your point, but consider this.  Why would Honda release an '06 2 when it would release the '07 a few months later anyway.  One year is alot easier to wait to release something than 5 is.  I imagine ( I said imagine, not know.  I'm no expert.) that Honda would lose money doing that when comparing the cost to add whatever, and not making the sales (on the same car, maybe with a new ipod hook-up) to back it up.  If MS sees that people would prefer the PS3 because of HDMI, a disk drive, or whatever is giving Sony the edge,  it would benefit MS to do everything they can to compete and get people into their product.  If a have a lemonade stand, and the guy down the street has lemonade with pulp,  I'm gonna put pulp in my lemonade.  you don't have to agree with me.  That's just how I see it.

Avatar image for jmartinez1983
jmartinez1983

3949

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#19 jmartinez1983
Member since 2006 • 3949 Posts
I'm Morgan, and that was a minute. ...Wait. I'm not Morgan. (Not too many people will get that, probably.) ritzuki
I got it, but unless you are a blazing hot chick who has been in Maxim, no, just no. And I agree with what you said. Its becoming increasingly more common for companies to release new version of their units all the time now. Did people gripe about the new ipods? Well, if they did they shouldn't have, you got what you paid for, now the market has advanced. Want to be safe? Don't buy anything, that way you never have something that is outdated.
Avatar image for stevenk4k5
stevenk4k5

5608

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 stevenk4k5
Member since 2005 • 5608 Posts
The car example sold it. Nice work.
Avatar image for littlestreakier
littlestreakier

2950

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 littlestreakier
Member since 2004 • 2950 Posts
yea a 360 with an HDMI port isn't going to change the gameplay what so ever.  people just need to stop complaining.  companies update products allllll the time.  the "fat PS2" the "slim PS2".  the evolution of the iPod over the years.  it's nothing new.  just stop complaining about it.
Avatar image for KurupSoldr
KurupSoldr

4094

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#22 KurupSoldr
Member since 2006 • 4094 Posts
who cares about hdmi if you have a newer hdtv as of like november last year you can get 1080p with component cables, ummmm color i could care less about and only thing i want is the bigger harddrive, hopefully its not like 300$ since it was like 100$ for the 20gb, thats the only thing i like about the ps3 how you can swap it out for bigger and not that expensive
Avatar image for wildmatt
wildmatt

1242

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#23 wildmatt
Member since 2003 • 1242 Posts
first off it is possible to run 1080p w/ component cables.  also what of the rumors of the new 360 shipping with HD-DVD integrated.  THAT would be the main concern for current 360 owners, not some cable that most people wouldn't even be able to tell a difference with.  Also, the current disk drive on the 360 wouldn't let you run 1080p anyway.  that's why they made the HD-DVD attachment.  so quit worrying about the cable and start worrying about the disk drive.  that's what really matters.incubusoccer
it's official this guy has no idea what he's talking about... 1080p would be possible with a 256mb flashdrive, it has nothing to do with the HD-DVD... Virtua Tennis will run in native 1080p, DIG IT! and they'll never make an intergrated HDDVD anytime soon(like within the next 4 years), they haven't even talked out it, it's really just HDMI port, smaller processor and bigger disk drives