Will GTA IV cause RROD on my Xbox 360?

It seems like a lot of these new games are soo powerful that they cause the 360 to get a lot hotter than playing other games...

Should I be concerned with buying GTA IV?

The reason I ask is, when I first bought Gears of War it broke my Xbox. Will the same thing happen with GTA IV?

It seems like a lot of these new games are soo powerful that they cause the 360 to get a lot hotter than playing other games...

Should I be concerned with buying GTA IV?

The reason I ask is, when I first bought Gears of War it broke my Xbox. Will the same thing happen with GTA IV?

SentryGunner411

ROFL, no man, its got NOTHING to do with games, its completly random....one game is not causing your 360 to get any hotter than others......

Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.DZBricktop

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE: http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.DZBricktop

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.SentryGunner411

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE: http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

You've got to be kidding me....that is the most false thing I have EVER heard in my life, its a total joke, ignore it

[QUOTE="SentryGunner411"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.NOD_Grindking

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE: http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

You've got to be kidding me....that is the most false thing I have EVER heard in my life, its a total joke, ignore it

It's not false.

That guy works for Microsoft.

So you expect me to believe Microsoft does not know how they built their console?

Maybe you know more about the 360 than Microsoft does....

[QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"][QUOTE="SentryGunner411"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.SentryGunner411

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE: http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

You've got to be kidding me....that is the most false thing I have EVER heard in my life, its a total joke, ignore it

It's not false.

That guy works for Microsoft.

So you expect me to believe Microsoft does not know how they built their console?

Maybe you know more about the 360 than Microsoft does....

the fact that you would say "he works for microsoft" is hillarious! I can make my own website to and say I had an interview with Bill Gates, does it mean its true? NO...

who's gonna trust an article from 8bitjoystick.com wtf is that......not only is that article old, but its a joke.

The 360 has a design flaw......its a hardware issue, not a software issue....games have NO effect on the heat or stability of the system....I was playing, believe it or not, The Simpsons Game the first time I got the rings, does that mean the simpsons game is a Killer? NO! Because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH GAMES.

360= designed poorly, end of story

i believe the game definitely has an effect....I played farcry for 3 hours straight and the box never rose above room temp...I pop in NBA immediately after and get overheat within 10 minutes, and from what I've seen overheating eventually leads to RRODdan_cicero

this right here proves my point though, its completly random...NBA is not a graphically heavy game, so how do you explain that? Did you sit there and hold a thermometer in your 360 while playing both games? No. Just because the game overheated with NBA doesn't mean internally it wasn't getting hotter with Far Cry.

[QUOTE="dan_cicero"]i believe the game definitely has an effect....I played farcry for 3 hours straight and the box never rose above room temp...I pop in NBA immediately after and get overheat within 10 minutes, and from what I've seen overheating eventually leads to RRODNOD_Grindking

this right here proves my point though, its completly random...NBA is not a graphically heavy game, so how do you explain that? Did you sit there and hold a thermometer in your 360 while playing both games? No. Just because the game overheated with NBA doesn't mean internally it wasn't getting hotter with Far Cry.

How do you know that an NBA game can't push more polygons than Far Cry?

Oh, that's right....YOU DON'T!!

Did you sit there and hold a thermometer in your 360 while playing both games? No. Just because the game overheated with NBA doesn't mean internally it wasn't getting hotter with Far Cry.

NOD_Grindking

I was just under the impression that the external casing of the system wouldn't become instantaeously hot once the internal temps got too high. I do agree though that the system is a huge p.o.s. design, not that I really no anything about it. I have mine on a table with nothing even remotely close to it....One day it starts overheating every 15 minutes, so I place a bottle cap under each of the 4 "legs" and no problems since. I should not have to do something this ridiculous just to play my Xbox.

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.SentryGunner411

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

some one has issues.. "mechanical thing"? lmao. this guy doesnt know what hes talkin about

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.SentryGunner411

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

Thats funny. Not only do you claim this guy supposedly "works for Microsoft", but he evens states in this joke of an interview to keep your 360 cool by "standing it up".

Q:Is keeping the 360 horizontal more safe than keeping it vertical?
Vertical exposes more surface area and volume to heat exchange with cooler room air. And i think it opens more vent holes.

It closes HALF of the main vent holes. Any idiot knows this. How could a so-called Microsoft employee who apparently knows so much about this subject not know that? Standing it vertical would actually cause the system to run hotter. Or how about....

Q: Do you think that third party fans like the Nyko Intercooler will make things worse? I dont know.

Really? Microsoft themselves says that using these intercoolers voids the warrenty because they use the 360s power supply to run. Causing the 360 to use more power and run hotter. In essense causing the system to overheat faster. You would think someone working for the company who like i said before, knows so much apparently about this issue, would know this. Excuse me if i dont this guy seriously.

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.SentryGunner411

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

Thats funny. Not only do you claim this guy supposedly "works for Microsoft", but he evens states in this joke of an interview to keep your 360 cool by "standing it up".

Q:Is keeping the 360 horizontal more safe than keeping it vertical?
Vertical exposes more surface area and volume to heat exchange with cooler room air. And i think it opens more vent holes.

It closes HALF of the main vent holes. Any idiot knows this. How could a so-called Microsoft employee who apparently knows so much about this subject not know that? Standing it vertical would actually cause the system to run hotter. Or how about....

Q: Do you think that third party fans like the Nyko Intercooler will make things worse? I dont know.

Really? Microsoft themselves says that using these intercoolers voids the warrenty because they use the 360s power supply to run. Causing the 360 to use more power and run hotter. In essense causing the system to overheat faster. You would think someone working for the company who like i said before, knows so much apparently about this issue, would know this. Excuse me if i dont take this guy seriously.

[QUOTE="SentryGunner411"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]Wow. Do you honesty believe that or is this a joke? Cause it has ZERO to do with games.DZBricktop

Leave your cave and do some research before posting trash.

Q: Does some games more than others cause hardware failure. Gears of War and Dead Rising were thought to be system killers when they came out.
Of course. Infant mortality, which is a weakened mechanical "thing" like a solder joint with a void in it, are exercised to failure by cyclic stress. The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.

SOURCE:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_the_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

Thats funny. Not only do you claim this guy supposedly "works for Microsoft", but he evens states in this joke of an interview to keep your 360 cool by "standing it up".

Q:Is keeping the 360 horizontal more safe than keeping it vertical?
Vertical exposes more surface area and volume to heat exchange with cooler room air. And i think it opens more vent holes.

It closes HALF of the main vent holes. Any idiot knows this. How could a so-called Microsoft employee who apparently knows so much about this subject not know that? Standing it vertical would actually cause the system to run hotter. Or how about....

Q: Do you think that third party fans like the Nyko Intercooler will make things worse? I dont know.

Really? Microsoft themselves says that using these intercoolers voids the warrenty because they use the 360s power supply to run. Causing the 360 to use more power and run hotter. In essense causing the system to overheat faster. You would think someone working for the company who like i said before, knows so much apparently about this issue, would know this. Excuse me if i dont take this guy seriously.

Thakn you Brick....I just couldn't bring myself to read the entire article.....I'd laugh to much!

By reading what Brick said, i would say, Sentry, YOU should leave your cave and do some research :)pygmahia5

Good posts, but back on topic: Yes, GTA4 will give you RROD. If you you don't clear the first mission in 35 seconds your xbox melts down and gets RROD as a penalty. I read that from a guy who works at Microsoft on the internet. The PS3 also get RROD.

Of course it will, duh! It will also explode, taking you and your house with it!

Don't be stupid, games don't cause RROD....

[QUOTE="pygmahia5"]By reading what Brick said, i would say, Sentry, YOU should leave your cave and do some research :)ck02623

Good posts, but back on topic: Yes, GTA4 will give you RROD. If you you don't clear the first mission in 35 seconds your xbox melts down and gets RROD as a penalty. I read that from a guy who works at Microsoft on the internet. The PS3 also get RROD.

I forgot, it also gives you an achievement. It's called "PWNT," and it's worth 5,000 points.

That article was so stupid... it looks like it was written by a 3 year old... "Does some games"... proper grammer ftw?

All console games are optimized for the console... it isn't like a PC where all options can be modified and the components run hotter and harder to increase settings... all games are optimized to run at one level on the hardware... if one game looks better... it doesn't mean it is using more of the 360s power... it means that the developers optimized the game extremely well...

Wow, it's like a High School political debate in here. EVERYONE'S an expert all of a sudden, and of course thinks that they're automatically right about everything. All I know is that I had ZERO overheating problems with my 360 before picking up GTA IV. Every time I attempted to play it I made sure the AC was on and the thing still overheated the console within half an hour each time. Now some of my other games, Halo 3 and GRAW2 in particular, are accompanied by this problem, but none of the others (RBSV2, COD4, Armored Core 4, Gears, etc.). You're all correct, games themselves don't cause the 360 to overheat, just GTAIV coupled with an older console that had an absolutely impeccable record up to that point.

And Squeets, proper "grammer?" Talk about the pot and the kettle.

Q: Do you think that third party fans like the Nyko Intercooler will make things worse? I dont know.

Really? Microsoft themselves says that using these intercoolers voids the warrenty because they use the 360s power supply to run. Causing the 360 to use more power and run hotter. In essense causing the system to overheat faster. You would think someone working for the company who like i said before, knows so much apparently about this issue, would know this. Excuse me if i dont take this guy seriously.

DZBricktop

Actually, Nyko was being cited for the opposite reason.

POWER SUPPLY => NYKO -> X360

Because it was placed between X360 and its power supply, there were speculations that Nyko's three fans were consuming too much power so that there was not enough left for the poor console. Accumulated over time, effect of this scenario would eventually cause X360 to fail.

The convenience of that design was that it would turn fans on and off automatically, with the console. That is why MS went on to recommend cooling solutions with external (usually: USB) power. Pelican used to make console stand with fan built in the base. It was powered through the USB but it had on/off switch because X360 does not terminate the power throught the USB when it is turned off (so that you can charge your controllers when you're not playing, but it also keeps the Pelican fan working).

The 360 has a design flaw......its a hardware issue, not a software issue....games have NO effect on the heat or stability of the system....I was playing, believe it or not, The Simpsons Game the first time I got the rings, does that mean the simpsons game is a Killer? NO! Because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH GAMES.

360= designed poorly, end of story

NOD_Grindking

I got the rrod last week from playing Duke Nukem 3D.

Dosnt seem like its the games, but even though i got the rrod, it still gives me a little joy that Duke Nukem was just too bad arse for a microsoft console ;)

[QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"]

[QUOTE="dan_cicero"]i believe the game definitely has an effect....I played farcry for 3 hours straight and the box never rose above room temp...I pop in NBA immediately after and get overheat within 10 minutes, and from what I've seen overheating eventually leads to RRODSentryGunner411

this right here proves my point though, its completly random...NBA is not a graphically heavy game, so how do you explain that? Did you sit there and hold a thermometer in your 360 while playing both games? No. Just because the game overheated with NBA doesn't mean internally it wasn't getting hotter with Far Cry.

How do you know that an NBA game can't push more polygons than Far Cry?

Oh, that's right....YOU DON'T!!

appartently you already know everything about the 360 overheating. so why are you asking us the questions? we should ask you since your the all knowing 360 god

Wow, it's like a High School political debate in here. EVERYONE'S an expert all of a sudden, and of course thinks that they're automatically right about everything. All I know is that I had ZERO overheating problems with my 360 before picking up GTA IV. Every time I attempted to play it I made sure the AC was on and the thing still overheated the console within half an hour each time. Now some of my other games, Halo 3 and GRAW2 in particular, are accompanied by this problem, but none of the others (RBSV2, COD4, Armored Core 4, Gears, etc.). You're all correct, games themselves don't cause the 360 to overheat, just GTAIV coupled with an older console that had an absolutely impeccable record up to that point.

And Squeets, proper "grammer?" Talk about the pot and the kettle.

Gogfreak21

Do you realize how old this thread is?

The only effect games have on the RROD is the sense that if you play a game for a long period of time, you are indirectly increasing your chances of getting RROD.