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#1 nicg2
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i have a tv that i am using to play my xbox on with the normal av cables but i think the tv can be used as a pc monitor as it has a vga cable slot ( it looks smaller then the one on my computer monitor and says pc-dsub above it ) and i was wondering if i could a xbox vga cable with it for high definition.

this is it http://www.ciao.co.uk/Samsung_LW17M24CPX__6543588
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#2 Bane_v2
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That is not an HDTV so using the VGA cables will not give you a high definition picture.
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#3 nicg2
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ok thanks , i thought pc moniters could display hd thogh

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#4 TheCrazed420
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Dont listen to that guy, he's misleading you. That is most definitely a High-Def monitor and yes, if you plug in a VGA cable, you can get a res of 1024x768, which basically translates to 720p.

Seriously, why people feel they could give advice when they don't know what they're talking about is beyond me....

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#5 OoSuperMarioO
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Yea it can accept a hd signal from a vga input which will equal a 720p image.
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#6 Bane_v2
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Excuse me, but 1024 x 768 is not HD. HD is 720p (1280 x 720) and 1080i/p (1920 x 1080). 1024 x 768 is XGA. Using the VGA cable will not give you an HD picture on that particular TV.. Please take your own advice.
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#7 OoSuperMarioO
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Excuse me, but 1024 x 768 is not HD. HD is 720p (1280 x 720) and 1080i/p (1920 x 1080). 1024 x 768 is XGA. Using the VGA cable will not give you an HD picture on that particular TV.. Please take your own advice.Bane_v2
lol 1024x768 which scales a 720p picture isnt HD.
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Excuse me, but 1024 x 768 is not HD. HD is 720p (1280 x 720) and 1080i/p (1920 x 1080). 1024 x 768 is XGA. Using the VGA cable will not give you an HD picture on that particular TV.. Please take your own advice.Bane_v2
BTW anything starting at 1024x768 is a hd resolution in which most hd plasmas uses.You will think someone witha internet will know how to research correct info.
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I think he means its not HD because its not widescreen, which in my opinion is a big thing about HD.
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You will think someone witha internet will know how to research correct info.OoSuperMarioO
Please take your own advice.Bane_v2
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#11 OoSuperMarioO
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I think he means its not HD because its not widescreen, which in my opinion is a big thing about HD.Seemore10
HD mean resolutions in which is above the standard 800x600 and lower.The only problem with 4:3 hd displays is most lcds that disply in that mode cant achieve full HD resolutions like 1080p like crt's.If you think 1024x768 isnt a hd resolution then you shouldnt be posting in this thread simple.
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#12 TheCrazed420
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Excuse me, but 1024 x 768 is not HD. HD is 720p (1280 x 720) and 1080i/p (1920 x 1080). 1024 x 768 is XGA. Using the VGA cable will not give you an HD picture on that particular TV.. Please take your own advice.Bane_v2

Yes it is. 1024x768 is the 4:3 version of 1280 x 720. I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you are in fact mistaken.

When he plugs in a VGA cable, the difference between running his games at 1024 x 768 in comparison to 640 x 480 will be very noticeable.

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[QUOTE="Bane_v2"]Excuse me, but 1024 x 768 is not HD. HD is 720p (1280 x 720) and 1080i/p (1920 x 1080). 1024 x 768 is XGA. Using the VGA cable will not give you an HD picture on that particular TV.. Please take your own advice.TheCrazed420

Yes it is. 1024x768 is the 4:3 version of 1280 x 720. I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you are in fact mistaken.

When he plugs in a VGA cable, the difference between running his games at 1024 x 768 in comparison to 640 x 480 will be very noticeable.

Agreed it will look much better. As someone said before, don't give advice if you don't know what you are talking about... My monitor is 1680 x 1050, that doesn't mean it won't look HD...

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#14 Bane_v2
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Okay. I'm not trying to be an ass either, but I think we're getting caught up in semantics here. High Definition television is by definition widescreen. There is no 4:3 version of High Definition television. If your TV is 4:3 it's not HD. Please Google "what is hdtv" and have a look. Here are a couple of samples of what you'll find. http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatishighdefinition

HDTV uses a “widescreen format.” “Widescreen format” refers to an image's aspect ratio, which is a comparison of screen width to screen height. Analog television has an aspect ratio of 4 by 3, which means the screen is 4 units wide by 3 units high. The aspect ratio of HDTV is 16 by 9, similar to a movie theater screen. HDTV programs can include Dolby Digital surround sound, the same digital sound system used in many movie theaters and DVDs.

http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/whatisHDTV.htm

High definition television is the highest form of digital television. It has a 16:9 aspect ratio, which is the same as a movie theater screen. This is possibly HD’s biggest selling point. The other is the resolution. High definition is the best available picture on a television. It comes in three different flavors: 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

Note the "three different flavors" comment as that confirms what I said about 1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080. If you want to talk about computer display standards there's a whole lot of them, but most are unrelated to HD televisions or HDTV standards. I believe you're thinking of high resolution, not high definition, which is what I meant about being caught up in semantics. The TC's monitor, at a resolution of 1024 x 768, is definitely not high definition and not a very high resolution either. :)
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Okay. I'm not trying to be an ass either, but I think we're getting caught up in semantics here. High Definition television is by definition widescreen. There is no 4:3 version of High Definition television. If your TV is 4:3 it's not HD. Please Google "what is hdtv" and have a look. Here are a couple of samples of what you'll find. http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatishighdefinition

HDTV uses a "widescreen format." "Widescreen format" refers to an image's aspect ratio, which is a comparison of screen width to screen height. Analog television has an aspect ratio of 4 by 3, which means the screen is 4 units wide by 3 units high. The aspect ratio of HDTV is 16 by 9, similar to a movie theater screen. HDTV programs can include Dolby Digital surround sound, the same digital sound system used in many movie theaters and DVDs.Bane_v2

http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/whatisHDTV.htm

High definition television is the highest form of digital television. It has a 16:9 aspect ratio, which is the same as a movie theater screen. This is possibly HD's biggest selling point. The other is the resolution. High definition is the best available picture on a television. It comes in three different flavors: 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

Note the "three different flavors" comment as that confirms what I said about 1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080. If you want to talk about computer display standards there's a whole lot of them, but most are unrelated to HD televisions or HDTV standards. I believe you're thinking of high resolution, not high definition, which is what I meant about being caught up in semantics. The TC's monitor, at a resolution of 1024 x 768, is definitely not high definition and not a very high resolution either. :)

Please read to me in this link I'm about to post you writes and then tell world that you are what the last guy named you.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Advent-15-LCD-HDTV-Monitor-L1510A/sem/rpsm/oid/163703/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

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#17 Bane_v2
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Please cite a source that backs up any of your claims: * 1024 x 768 is high definition * that there is a 4:3 version of 720p * that any high definition resolutions (720p, 1080i, 1080p) are not 16:9 since aspect ratio has nothing to do with it * that the TC's monitor will display 720p If you can do that you'll be the leet ethug of the day.
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Please read to me in this link I'm about to post you writes and then tell world that you are what the last guy named you.OoSuperMarioO
Dude, it's marketing. The key bit of info at that link is this:

Compatibility: This TV has a resolution of 1024 x 768, and it's compatible with 1080i/720p/480p/480i digital programming.

It's HDTV compatible, meaning it will accept an HDTV signal. It will not display that signal in it's true form, it will downscale it to 1024x768 - which is not high definition. If all your knowledge comes from Circuit City marketing you have much to learn, as is evident by your posts in this thread.
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#19 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Please read to me in this link I'm about to post you writes and then tell world that you are what the last guy named you.Bane_v2
Dude, it's marketing. The key bit of info at that link is this:

Compatibility: This TV has a resolution of 1024 x 768, and it's compatible with 1080i/720p/480p/480i digital programming.

It's HDTV compatible, meaning it will accept an HDTV signal. It will not display that signal in it's true form, it will downscale it to 1024x768 - which is not high definition. If all your knowledge comes from Circuit City marketing you have much to learn, as is evident by your posts in this thread.

I give up you have to be one of the (not even gonna say it).I wish you the best seriously I do and for the guy curious if he can get hd with that set yes you can and game on..

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#20 TheCrazed420
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It's commonly accepted that anything above 800 x 600 is High-Definition. The aspect ratio deosn't really matter.

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html

Scroll down youll see that it states 1024 x 768 as an HD resolution. Also google High Definition 1024 x 768 and see the many pages of HDTVs being sold with a 1024 x 768 resolution. I can agree with you that its the lower end of HighDef, but it is not a Standard TV resolution.

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#21 Terami
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Dont listen to that guy, he's misleading you. That is most definitely a High-Def monitor and yes, if you plug in a VGA cable, you can get a res of 1024x768, which basically translates to 720p.

TheCrazed420
You can get as high as 1920x 1080p with the 360 VGA cables. It all depends on the display you're connecting to.
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http://www.ixbt.com/dvd/benq/pb7220/connectors.jpg my laptop has that RGB IN so thats that work?
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http://www.ixbt.com/dvd/benq/pb7220/connectors.jpg my laptop has that RGB IN so thats that work? ragogt

Most laptops won't have the thruput connector needed to connect your 360. You need a standalone monitor.

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thanks for answering but what is the thruput connector?
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Okay. I'm not trying to be an ass either, but I think we're getting caught up in semantics here. High Definition television is by definition widescreen. There is no 4:3 version of High Definition television. If your TV is 4:3 it's not HD. Please Google "what is hdtv" and have a look. Here are a couple of samples of what you'll find. http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatishighdefinition

HDTV uses a "widescreen format." "Widescreen format" refers to an image's aspect ratio, which is a comparison of screen width to screen height. Analog television has an aspect ratio of 4 by 3, which means the screen is 4 units wide by 3 units high. The aspect ratio of HDTV is 16 by 9, similar to a movie theater screen. HDTV programs can include Dolby Digital surround sound, the same digital sound system used in many movie theaters and DVDs.Bane_v2

http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/whatisHDTV.htm

High definition television is the highest form of digital television. It has a 16:9 aspect ratio, which is the same as a movie theater screen. This is possibly HD's biggest selling point. The other is the resolution. High definition is the best available picture on a television. It comes in three different flavors: 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

Note the "three different flavors" comment as that confirms what I said about 1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080. If you want to talk about computer display standards there's a whole lot of them, but most are unrelated to HD televisions or HDTV standards. I believe you're thinking of high resolution, not high definition, which is what I meant about being caught up in semantics. The TC's monitor, at a resolution of 1024 x 768, is definitely not high definition and not a very high resolution either. :)

Ok, you're being very silly now.

1024*768 is a higher number than 1280*720 (to put it in laymans speak)

HD is HIGH DEFINITION, not nice widescreen. It refers (primarily) to the number of pixels making up the image (the more the better). HD is not set in stone as 720 or 1080p. There's a reason why using the vga cable with the 360 gives different resolutions.

As for it not being widescreen, it's not ideal, but the 360 will scale it to be 1024*768 (which isn't a widescreen resolution, but still a high definition resolution), it's a widely known fact (DO NOT DISAGREE ON THIS BIT) that pc monitors have been widescreen for very long, but most of them are NOT widescreen. It does not make a difference to it being HD or not.

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I really tried to avoid this thread, but it's like a bad car accident and I can't help but look. You guys are still missing the point. High Definition is a television standard defined by the International Telecommunication Union and yes, is set in stone unless the ITU decides to change it. There are three standards defined: 720p, 1080i and 1080p. All of these are widescreen resolutions, so high definition, and HDTV's, are widescreen by definition - as I've already stated. A high resolution monitor, on the other hand, can be widescreen but doesn't have to be. HUXGA is a 4:3 resolution with 30,720,000 pixels - nearly 15 times the resolution of 1080p (2,073,600 pixels) which is the best high definition has to offer at the moment. 1024*768 is not a higher 'number' than 1280*720. That statement alone proves to me you're confused. 1024*768 (XGA) = 786,432 pixels 1280*720 (720p) = 921,600 pixels You can't argue with math dude, numbers don't lie. The reason the vga cables allow resolutions other than those defined by the ITU is because they are likely to be used to connect the 360 to a computer monitor, the resolutions of which are not defined by the same standard as high definition televisions. The reason the vga cables also allow HDTV resolutions is because most HDTV's have a vga connection as well as HDMI and component for high definition signal input. That doesn't mean all of the resolutions allowed by the vga cable are high definition. This isn't rocket surgery we're dealing with here, yet so many are having such a hard time grasping the concept of the difference between HDTV's and computer monitors. They are not the same thing.