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#1 -Bill-Gates-
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[QUOTE="fkholmes"] Also I have to say that theboxmike is the one who is winning this argument, now I might get called a "lem" or something even though I'm not, -Bill-Gates you are making stupid comments calling him stupid, retarded and you "owned" him which just makes you seem very fanboyish.

ur right... you are a lemming and are just backing him up, you are just as lost as him, you know why ? cus i never called him stupid or retarded and he was the first to directly call me a fanboy for saying sixaxis had 10 bit sensitivity, which was funny to say the least. so no you have no credibility and your opinion is invalid.
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#2 -Bill-Gates-
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Why do you keep saying that you owned me when there is clearly no ownage there?:|

Ok i will start again

The 360 controller is better for racers becuase it has triggers ok? better than the ones on the terrible sixxas atleast, the only thing bad on the 360 controller is the d pad, but you would have to be a newb to use those:lol: for a racer. Face buttons? i think there great no better no worse than the Sixxas and it's soo funny how you still think that sales mattar over scores:lol:

Go to gamerankings which game has the higher score? that's right forza does

i went into mass damage? Clearly you did!! for starters i started talking about scores and owned you, then you brought out the sales and on how sales means a better game:roll: so how does that mean that you owned me? clearly you cant take the fact that anybody who has played forza and GT4 will tell you that Forza is the much better game.

Serouisly by giving me insults all the time just makes you look even more fanboyish

theboxmike

dude you just keep selfowning dontcha ? i was the one who said before anything was said abouts scores that 10million people agreed with me, then you brought in the scores, when will the ownage on you stop ? when did i say that forza didnt have a higher score ? you keep spewing the same stuff iover and over repeating urself. that means you have nothing to say and are getting owned. a noob to use those for racers ? why cus the 360 has one of the worst dpads of all time ? any pro gamer uses the dpad its much more accurate, the noobs like you use the sticks. again i never said sales mean a better game just that 10 million people agreed with me that GT is the king of racers, YOU KEEP GOING INTO MASSIVE DAMAGE CONTROL LOL. i never seen a person get owned so much and self-owned in one thread :lol: forza much better ? a couple points does not constitute "much" better especially when the console was capable of much more, do you school much:lol;? .4 is not a massive number dude. im giving you insults ? you were the one who called me a fanboy first for stating that sixaxis has 10 bit sensitivity which was already widely know, real gamers do their research, real fanboys like you dont and get owned massively like you are now.

and its funny that you try to say that the face buttons are no better or no worse, the true sign of a hardcore lost lemming, you can never admit that anything on ur system is inferior in one way or another, unless its according to you non-vital to the controller like the dpad. you are seriously just sad. we all know who won here, well everyone except you :lol:
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#3 -Bill-Gates-
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are you on wireless ?
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#4 -Bill-Gates-
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="TheSpidren"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]MGS4 is going to take place in 3 different locations all around the world. So, using a resized picture of a game that hasn't been completed to claim ownage is typical Lemming work. :roll: Lemmings.TheSpidren
I resized both of them. FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~

OH EM GEE MGS4 IS TEH UGLIEST GAME EVAR RELEASED!!!!! FAILLL!!!!! Oh wait, it hasn't been released.

I'm not saying it's ugly. I'm saying it's more washed out than Gears of War so cows should stop using 'washed out' as an insult to Gears of War. That is all. Btw MGS sucks but that's off topic :D

good thing everyone on here considers you a joke and doesnt take you serious, if MGS sucks then i hate to think what splinter cell is... maybe we can compare SC to dog doo doo or sumthin ?
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#5 -Bill-Gates-
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ugh i just couldnt resist, you seriously are mentally challenged, and its obvious now. where exactly did i say it didnt sell 100 mil? i said it did, you are just going into the worst damage control i ever seen. i said there is no reason why forza shouldve failed like it did and that GT was still the king of racers and 10 million people agree with me against 1 million forza owners. the reason is people can see through the bull and rather have a good racer with amore than a handful of cars with a tacky sticker feature tacked on. the fact that you had to use the lol face so much proves you know you lost the argument, cus you even keep regurgetating the same stuff you posted last time, even after i explain clearer for ur 3rd grade comprehension level. forza only scored a few points higher despite being on a much stronger system and having unlimited funds, now if GT4 had the online feature that was promised it prolly wouldve scored the same or higher. now GT5 will have online and will be better, quote me i dont give a ****. if a tech demo built off of a ps2 engine looks better than forza 2 then GT5 on a whole new engine and still having more cars will look better and play better cus the CELLs physics and AI capabilities. you seem to try to shake off the fact that polyphony actually had to do some work with GT4 and optimize and get sounds and tweak the gameplay for each individual car and the forza devs didnt have to do that for near as many cars as they did. and yet the game only looked slightly better and they threw stickers on to make up for the lack of cars.

i feel sorry for you:lol: have fun playing with half the amount of cars with gimped visuals when ill be enjoying GT5 the best racing game of all time(quote me for the future) in all its glory :D-supercharged-

Hmm with a screen name as bill gates and posting something like that you either A. Like Windows or B. Fakeboy 

in secret i love sony i hide in my 100million dollar mansion while playing motorstorm and making fun of my daughter playing viva pinata, somehow the story got out but its all good though.
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#6 -Bill-Gates-
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[QUOTE="-Bill-Gates-"][QUOTE="theboxmike"]I acually dont mind about the price of the controllers....there not overpriced and the 360 controller is really nice, better than the sixxastheboxmike


i dont know last time i checked the dualshock design was the one with all the awards, only the fanboys on the webs say its better but in reality its only better for FPS type games which are better on PC anyways. and sixaxis is getting rumble back already so thats not an issue, and it also uses 10 bit sensitivity.

So? most polls and people on the forums will tell you

X360 Controller>>>Sixxas

And yes i have used it at eb with motorstorm. And the 360 Controller is better for racing games as well

The only place where the Sixxas is better is fighting games


exactly dumb random polls and forums, like i said fanboys on the internet. its not better for racing games, what using the triggers makes it better ? nah that makes it worse, i rather use those for switching gears pretending like i was in a ferrari. also the face buttons are much better for racing on sixaxis and 360 has some retarded face buttons and its shoulder buttons is for midgets or something. also 10bit sensitivity also makes sixaxis better for racing and a lot of other types of games.

No:|

Racing games = 360 Controller

FPS = 360 Controller

Fighting Games = Sixxas

RPGS = 360(but yet to really see but if its like fable for the orginal xbox the 360 wins)

Button Mashers = Sixxas(great D pad)

Overall = 360

And triggers are better for racing games, i dont know about you but i hate using the x button for Accelation and the Square button to stop/Reverse hurts my fingers for rubing and not enough sentivity


again you only prove how misinformed you are, i said 10 bit sensitivity, all other controllers use 8 bit and therefor the sixaxis controller is much more sensitive. so that made ur last straw argument pretty moot, also i hated using the triggers on GTA on xbox1 to drive, it was just retarded. the dualshock design is better for everything besides FPS and the awards prove that, keep owning urself. you cant honestly tell me playing GTA on xbox was better thatn ps2, because even gamespot disagrees with you and thats the biggest game in the history of gaming basically.

Well that's your're opinoin which is fine, but just remember GTA is not a racer!! go play Forza or PGR3 and tell me it's not better go on

And since when did the 360 have 10 bit sensitive? id like to see a link or some facts to back that up, becuase right now it just sounds like fanboy talk


how much do you drive in GTA ? a lot its a main function of the game, and you basically admitted it was better for driving games right there. i played PGR#, nice game but the whole time i was wishing the 360 had better face buttons so i could drive with them without getting thumb sores. and last time i checked most people agree with me cus GT4 sold 10 million and forza sold 1million.

i think you meant when did ps3 have 10 bit sensitivity, well its well known and it even states on wiki.

"The Sixaxis features finer analog sensitivity than the DualShock 2, increased to 10-bit precision from the 8-bit precision of the DualShock 2. The controller also features more trigger-like R2 and L2 buttons, with an increased range of depression. "

that means more precise actions especially in a racing game where i use the dpad cus its much more precise anyways.

That's all good and well but link to what sensitve the 360 has? and i used to be a GT4 fan..................until i played forza, im sorry to say but its a much much better game than GT4 was, the only the forza lacked was the amount of cars compared to GT4

The funny thing as well is you get you're thumbs sore from using the Anaologs and i get them sore from Pressing the buttons to hard and they rub alot:lol:


the only thing forza had over GT4 was a stronger system(even though that didnt help it look or perform really much better at all) and online, neither of which is an issue this time around. and it seems 9 million people disagree with ur point that forza is better and im one of them. i dont know if ur agreeing with me at the end there about the thumb sore thing, but im saying for a lot of games the xbox controller always made my thumbs purple cus they dont seem sensitive enough and they arent very comfortable. the only thing the xbox controller has over sixaxis is stick placement for FPS games, but i play most my FPS on PC anyways cus i know how much better it is. i will be getting UT3 on ps3 though cus the KB/M support and i dont wanna have to fuss around on my pc to get this game performing great when i just pop it into the ps3 and play with wireless bluetooth.

So you're saying sales = better game?

GT aleady have an installed fanbase, and it had 120 million ps2 owners compared to 20 million who do you think is gunna get the better sales?

Who won in score? Forza!! go look at most websites and it will show you that. Do you serouisly think Sales = better game?

now you are picking for the shortest straw drenched in KY jelly. what did i say ? C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-D, i said 9 million people disagree with you. and install base is no excuse for the lackluster sales, i already expained this to someone else in another thread tonight. GT4 sold 10x what forza did, last time i checked ps2 didnt have 10x the install base. and plenty of 1st time games have gotten well over 1 million in sales including the 1st GT and even games on xbox. like halo1 and others. so thats not an excuse, people rather have a better game with more cars than a game where i can slap stickers on like a handful of cars.

the only reason it scored higher is GT4 had online promised and it was stripped out last second and people were pissed, and forza was on a system at least twice as strong(even though the game only out scored it by abit and the game didnt really look noticeably better) these are not factors for forza 2 and GT5. and forza 2 looks like crud lets be honest here. GTHD a game built on a ps2 game engine and was just slapped together has better car models than forza with its unlimited budgets and resources. Gran turismo is undoubtedly the king of racers and 10 million people agree with me.

Im quoteing this:lol:

Ok go ask you're 10 million people if they all like GT4 better than forza good luck:lol: because my unlces one of them

Now Listen very Carfuly, just because Forza Owned gt4 in scores doesnt mean i think its a bad game k? infact i think its very good, just not as good as forza..........Serouisly you rant just there sounds like a bunch of fanboy damage control.

Now when both Forza and gt4 had come out the ps2 had around 95 million consoles sold, and the Xbox had about 20 million sold.....is it hard to understand which is going to win? GT Already had an Installed Fanbase!! Thats like saying Star Wars: RC would beat Halo 2 in sales:|


do i need to spell out comprehend for you again ? talk about fanboy damage control :lol: !!! im not gonna keep owning you again so im gonna be done after this post for this thread. halo and plenty of other 1st outings on xbox1 sold well out of the gate. install base is no excuse for the lackluster 1 million in sales and GT4 outsold it 10x over, ps2 install base is not 10x bigger, and not all 100 million of those people are racing fans, and simulation racing fans at that. you just cant admit that forza is an afterthought compared to gran turismo. but its the sad truth, teh lemmings will never get a game as beloved and good as GT5 will be. i much rather take extra cars than extra stickers for my cars. polyphony spent all that time building physics and models and everything else for all the extra cars and the forza devs spent time making...stickers :?

So you think you're owning me now?:lol: I think gamespot agrees that Forza>>>> GT4 you cows just cant accept that Forza on its first go owns the hell out of GT4, so you go back to resorting to sales

And what do you mean by the ps2 didnt have 100 million sales? THAT is a fact There has been 125 million Sold as of TODAY!! how many do you think were sold not so long ago?

The only thing GT4 was better than Forza was the Amount of cars. That's it

I really really feel sorry for you:lol:

I cant belive i have finally found sombody who thinks Sales = Better game:lol::lol:

And you think im in damage control? more looks like you are with Resorting back to sales rather than acuall reviews/ People Opinoins:lol:


ugh i just couldnt resist, you seriously are mentally challenged, and its obvious now. where exactly did i say it didnt sell 100 mil? i said it did, you are just going into the worst damage control i ever seen. i said there is no reason why forza shouldve failed like it did and that GT was still the king of racers and 10 million people agree with me against 1 million forza owners. the reason is people can see through the bull and rather have a good racer with amore than a handful of cars with a tacky sticker feature tacked on. the fact that you had to use the lol face so much proves you know you lost the argument, cus you even keep regurgetating the same stuff you posted last time, even after i explain clearer for ur 3rd grade comprehension level. forza only scored a few points higher despite being on a much stronger system and having unlimited funds, now if GT4 had the online feature that was promised it prolly wouldve scored the same or higher. now GT5 will have online and will be better, quote me i dont give a ****. if a tech demo built off of a ps2 engine looks better than forza 2 then GT5 on a whole new engine and still having more cars will look better and play better cus the CELLs physics and AI capabilities. you seem to try to shake off the fact that polyphony actually had to do some work with GT4 and optimize and get sounds and tweak the gameplay for each individual car and the forza devs didnt have to do that for near as many cars as they did. and yet the game only looked slightly better and they threw stickers on to make up for the lack of cars.

i feel sorry for you:lol: have fun playing with half the amount of cars with gimped visuals when ill be enjoying GT5 the best racing game of all time(quote me for the future) in all its glory :D

Im not getting into an argument of Forza 2 vs GT4 because like i said i like both but you still cant see to understand that you pathetic fanboy

Really in the long run none of this mattars most post people who have played both will tell you that Forza>>>GT4 it's you who Decides not to understand that into fact.

Now that's over, as much as i think you're a blind fanboy, you are not a dumb one. Just very....blind...............

how ironic calling me the blind fanboy when you cant even comprehend at a 3rd grade level and anything that is negative against ur precious heatbox360 you try to discredit with all you miserable capabilities, i mean that is why you came into this thread right ?i owned you hard, very hard on the controller thing and about the sixaxis is better and you revert to" but teh forza outscored teh GT lol" at least i know who won here, that would be me. the whole point of this was that more people prefered GT4 over forza, and its true cus it outsold forza 10 to 1 and that driving on a 360 game is horrible because of the face buttons and dpad and they force you to use the triggers that are suppose to be for changing gears. but you went itno massive damage control to the point that you dont even remember what the argument started from, how sad, im gonna call you stevie wonder jr. ur so blind :lol:
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#7 -Bill-Gates-
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[QUOTE="El_Fanboy"]This is mostly stuff we already knew, but the ps3 software sales are the big story here. mega ouch

damage control much ??? and where did kotaku get the numbers from ? vgcharts i hope...
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#8 -Bill-Gates-
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i keep reading these excuses about "comparing a game thats been out longer vs a game thats not finished blah blah"....it doesnt take a "thermal nuclear scientist" to NOTICE the ART DIRECTION a game has taken. (that) can be seen VERY early and usually STAYS throughout production.  I see Gears as a more VIBRANT pallette while MGS4 looks like a "constant SANDSTORM".  just my opinion...though i THOUGHT visuals were pretty UNIVERSAL(unless your colorblind) :P  peace yalljazreal
looks like kojima is scared of the water LOL(talkin bout ur sig)
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#9 -Bill-Gates-
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the only problematic ones are the wireless adapters and 20GB HD.

1.) the Memory Unit's pricing is indicative of the reality that they want to give people the option, but push them towards the HDD. it's priced to convince them to upgrade. Just like the up-size at your local fastfood resturants. only $0.30 more gets you a lot more stuff. Same principle applies. the goal is to provide an option but make it clear what they really want you to get is.

2.) the 20GB HDD is high, but it's also specially built and isn't a normal HDD setup. As such, it costs more. From what I understand about the design and how much they (Microsoft) are paying for these, they're not charging too much more than they're getting them for.

3.) Wired and Wireless controller prices are fine. you're just *itching about that.

4.) XBL Vision isn't expensive either. could be less, but why are we crying about something that may be $5-$10 overpriced? when is it okay for the company to make money, in your opinion? Or did we forget that they do in fact need to make profits in order to further R&D and pay their employees?

5.) If the Wireless headset = BT headset price, then what are you complaining about? :|

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all that damage control and no proof. you say we arent paying more than they are paying to make them, but wheres the proof. just admit the milkage and we can move on. the HDD isnt the same ? does it not save files and store them like all other HDDs ? or does it toast bread and spread the butter for me too ?