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#1 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

natal knows who you are, where you are, what you are saying and doing.

havent seen clips of sonys motion controller, but i know that you need a controller

Natal doesnt NEED a controller, but we've all ready seen it knows what you using, I can see games using both the natal, and a controller of some kind.

but in all it comes down to which system has the better Jedi game...which I wont believe lucas arts wouldnt think of making a game

Sure !! I'll says this again Natal is two PS eyes put together one tracks you upper body while the other tracks your bottom half. nothing more nothing less.
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#2 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[quote="CNET"]

About halfway through a closed-door demo I was in this afternoon of Microsoft's just-announced full-body motion-sensitive control system, Project Natal, another reporter told our host that he was skeptical of what he was seeing.

A minute later, after taking the virtual controls himself of the game "Burnout Paradise" and giving Natal a test, the reporter walked back over to where I was standing and when I asked him if he was still skeptical, he gave me a chastened look and said, "It's interesting." In other words, he was won over.

Here's my quick impression: Natal is for real, and it may well change the way people experience video games, as well as anything else that is run through an X360.

Tsunoda said. Wherever you move your hands, your body or your legs, the system captures it and mirrors it on the screen and in whatever game you're playing. "No (other) controller in the world allows you to control your whole body," he said. "Every part of the body is in play."

Another interesting point was the way Natal recognizes people's skeletal structure and analyzes how we move. Tsunoda made the point that Natal will continue to work even if someone walks in front of a player because it knows how the human body works.

So, if a player had his or her arms blocked, but Natal's cameras could still see part of their arm, it can fill in the rest based on algorithms that tell it how that arm should look.

Tsunoda said the technology behind Natal includes an RGB camera, an infrared camea, a multi-array microphone and a depth map. These features allow the system to track a player in 3D space, as well as to capture spoken commands from multiple people, none of whom have to wear a headset

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I still think PS3 motion sensing was the best as it uses similar technology of proven professional motion capturing techniques.

Precision of Microsoft's natal paint demo was a joke. Nintendo Wii's controller always suffered from precision and delay (hopefully that might be corrected with WM+). The only one that showed impressive tracking speed and precision was the PS3 motion controller.

Sony's was crappy, like a slightly advanced wii remote, but with cameras that detect light sticks... so if the light sticks are blocked... no play. no dice, epic fail.

Um natal is a rehashed Eyetoy so itseven more fail. LOL go back and watch the natal demo again before you hype it as the second coming. They showed a inaccurate paint game whoa oh wheres the precision. I wonder how long it took for them to choreograph the elephant stencil since its not precise enough to actually draw it. Or how about that block game wowzer face it your stuck on one plane of play. You cant really move in any direction. without running in place. what then do you have to doyell out move forward move backward move left or move right?

Hmm what else oh that amazing trailer the showed with all the niffty things you can do. Awesomemore things the PS eye could already do wow talk about innovation. Lets see you can already scan things using the PS eye and I wonder if MS saw this trailer and thought well that looks fun. http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V1267 And don't get me started on Milo I don't want to be mean to the little kid. Natal is at its most basic two PS eyes one follows the motion of you lower body while the other follows the top. If they really wanted to to true 3d sensing they should have had a system of camera's place around you like a surround sound system.

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#3 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Forza 3 - was not news - doesnt matter if it was leaked or not it wasnt official. and the game is news because its impressive Gran Turismo 5 is more impressive still it's not news and it's not a new exclusive which microsoft is in desperate need of. Shadow Complet - an xblive game - who cares its still a great game to play on 360 that you cant on the ps3 it's still not a new game for your xbox it's just an online game, Fat Princess can compete with Shadow Complex if you want but that online games are not on par with full games. Perfect Dark - thats not a new exclusive game - still a pretty big deal been there Left 4Dead 2 not exclusive - i know that apparently you didnt read my post I did but it doesn't change the fact that it's not exclusive so you can count that as much as we can count DC Universe online or Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 or MLB The Show 09 I can play Left4Dead 2 and I have Crysis and I own a PS3 not an Xbox - your not everyone..................... so those 3 games I mentioned counts as PS3 exclusives would you agree ? that = 2 AAAE for playstation then.simslifer

really do you want me to start a list on how many AAAE the 360 would have compared to the 2 you mentioned?

I dont see 1 game coming this year on the 360 that has a chance at AAAE, other than Forza 3.

To be fair SC Conviction has a shot. My only worry is that the exacution button will make it to easy.
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#4 2beers_in_hand
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since when was PS3 backswards compatible?

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way back when in 06, 07. My PS3 is backward compatible.
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#5 2beers_in_hand
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yea well it seems no one has picked up on the fact that you could quite easily add any type of controller for motion controls to Natal.

zaokamura
But that defeats the pupose of natal. They wanted to get away from controllers because the masses deem controllers to cumbersome. Lets turn this around whats stopping Sony from releasing their version of natal with their motion controller? Half the tech MS showed can already be done with the PS eye.
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#6 2beers_in_hand
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Alan Wake running on 360 looks a lot better imo :|

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Yup because all those textures look amazing in the dark.:roll:

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#7 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="shaggygrosser"]NO F-ING WAY That's awesome.Decko5
yeah, holding your arms in the air for 20 mins at a time is awesome... :s

right that's what they said about the wii :| you are knee deep in denial

Um you can put your wiimote close to you body or in your lap like a regular controller with out losing functionality. Take the 20 min challenge then with out hold on to something then

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#8 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="shaggygrosser"]NO F-ING WAY That's awesome.bingbaocao

yeah, holding your arms in the air for 20 mins at a time is awesome... :s

yeah because you don't that with a controller...oh wait

Here do us all a favor stick you hands out in front of you like your holding a steering wheel for 20 mins. I bet after you played for an hour you would be spent and would not be playing for atleast a couple of hours.
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#9 2beers_in_hand
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Isn't it odd that natal can do this? AND it could use the balls on sticks that sony uses? its a simple matter of programming. then you have the fact the balls on sticks sony tech uses old eye toy ps3 camera tech, natal uses much more up to date camera tech.

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Umm natal is using nothing but old Eyetoy tech too Everything that can be dune on natal could be done with eyetoy if Sony felt like it case in point. http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V1267 Mind you this is from a 06 commercial so if I'm not mistaken I think we can see were MS got some of their ideas from.

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#10 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="SirWander"]

LOL, Uncharted 2 is the graphics king, everyone knows that.

Uncharted 2 does look good. Very good. But I believe there are better looking games coming.

Likw which ones? I'm just asking.