@biggest_loser

Is it really that ridiculous though? (that's rhetorical)

Let me ask you this. Do you have to have it when it is first released? If you can wait then you could have that game for 20 bucks.

What I am driving at is that if the experience is that good, then why wouldn't you pay the 60 dollars. It's a great game that you enjoy playing again and again. While I agree that to a publisher the multiplayer aspect will definately calm some people down in that it could hypothetically add more play time. What if the multiplayer is terrible though? It's a loss just the same.

I think the problem is that we have these people in publishing companies that are afraid to take the chances to innovate. They want to make money (who doesn't?), I get that. This is a entertainment industry, one that is full of creative people. Let them create, don't pigeon hole them, you gotta take chances.

More people need to make single player only games to demonstrate the relevance of having them and demonstrate that they can be great!

@biggest_loser

Movies don't have multiplayer..... and the story they tell never changes. Yet, I buy the ones I enjoy and continue to watch them.

@mediarays

and a great multiplayer component!

I mainly played the single player though.

@deathblow3

I think Wolfenstein was just in the wrong place at the wrong time with Warren.

@Gravity_Slave @gashoe13

I have to disagree here. I don't think people dislike CoD for the reason of it being mainstream or commercialized. To encapsulate peoples opinions of dislike into something so trivial as being "too mainstream" is a little insulting. If you remember when CoD 4 came out it was a defining moment for the FPS genre. The CoD franchise has stagnated for far too long now. It has done little to innovate and has turned into the "Madden Football" of the FPS world.

Multiplayer if done properly can be a great experience. Single player when done properly can be a great experience. The problem that arises from spreading your men too thin and trying to please everyone (publishers...etc) is that either of the two suffers during development. Not to say it can't be done but, let me say this. Despite CoD having a single player campaign, most people I know play those games for the multiplayer. Why not cut the single player out completely and just release and CoD multiplayer game?

I think Warren has a point but, it is one he made in the wrong way. If anything, he has done exactly the opposite of what he was trying to do which is make people think (instead the way he said it just pissed people off). Lets be real,the FPS genre has done little to innovate over the last couple of decades (save for a few, 1998's Half Life stands out) .

Now, don't get me wrong I love the FPS genre. Wolf 3d was one of the first games I played and I am more than thrilled that these Swedes are making a Single Player focused experience set in that fiction. I have a feeling this is going to be good.

I think Warren was speaking to that of the COD franchise.... little innovation (same game engine, same style set pieces, etc ,etc) and constant rehashing makes for a stale experience . Some of us are content with playing the same game new wrapper over and over again but, a creative personality like Warren Spector's probably hates this kind of stagnation.

http://www.wolfenstein.com/game_NA.php

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