@NonEdibleCheese: I'm not saying giving up self defense, I'm asking you to quit thinking that your pea shooters would have any effect on our military. It's the lamest way to justify gun ownership and I really wish the NRA would quit pumping up its people with that nonsense.
So talking about less advanced forces taking on more advanced forces.....do you think you need to own guns so you can do what the U.S. military can't? Do you think the difficulty the U.S. has with insurgents has anything to do with firepower?
You're last sentence is what frustrates me most about gun owners. You think they're heroes without actually doing anything. So do I have you to thank for me not being under the rule of tyrants because you got all the guns? Give me a ****ing break.
@austinp: I think you might be confused about semi- and fully automatic. The AR-15 is semi automatic be design. Most pistols are too. Basically one round with one trigger pull with the casing automatically ejected. Basically, anything with a magazine is usually semi-automatic. Fully auto is hold down the trigger until the magazine is empty.
@NonEdibleCheese: You must be an NRA member with these anecdotal evidences "I need to buy a gun quick because I'm being stalked" and "Guns have saved more lives than taken". What statistics do you have on that? How are you defining that? If a person carries everywhere they go and don't die, do you consider that a life saved by a gun? I don't carry and I'm still here.
Secondly, the statement about defending ourselves against a tyrannical government is laughable today. When America's documents were drafted, weapon technology was such that essentially the government and civilians had weapons of, roughly, equal destructive power. That's not true today and never will be again. You would less than useless going up against the military with your guns.
For all the strength that gun owners think they have with their guns, they have to be the most scared group of people to have ever existed.
@wicked_laugh: I'm always torn about the purpose of the 2nd amendment in that it was designed to push back tyranny from a government that wants to take away freedoms, just as you said. But back then, the military and civilians all had about the same weaponry. Today, civilians are only legally allowed to have certain types of weapons. Today's military has full automatic weapons, tanks, explosives, aircraft, you name it. Civilians really can't fight back against a tyrannical government anymore. The only way they could do that is with votes. So that argument, in my opinion, is a little outdated.
@walbo: Got it. I thought it was odd as I felt as I was being complimentary, then you called me nonsensical. Knowing that it could be taken as sarcastic that makes more sense. Peace!
@walbo: I think America has a unique problem in that the 2nd amendment gives its citizens the right to own firearms. To take that right away would require amending the amendment and I don't see that actually happening. To get into the gun debate further, people have argued, "Just ban assault weapons". Well, I myself don't own guns and, as such, I'd be okay with that ban, but what if someday the government decided to ban fast cars? That would definitely be an issue for me (as you could guess, I'm into cars). Now you're getting into taking away freedoms that, if managed carefully, can be safe. Just because guns are not something I value doesn't mean I should be allowed to consider legislation around them non-objectively. Or is that subjectively? Are those antonyms? Whatever.
It's just not as simple as everyone thinks it is. What I really can't stand is that gun owners and the NRA won't give an inch and at least acknowledge that guns may be out of control in this country. And Trump's plan of arming our teachers to prevent shootings is just terrifying. Many school shooters go into the shooting with intent on turning the gun on themselves when its over. I don't see how armed teachers are going to deter that. In the most recent shooting, an armed officer was present and he stayed out of harm's way. You can't tell me teachers are going to run in the hall, guns blazing, to stop a shooting. They're teachers, not police or military.
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