Star Ocean 4 is touted for XBOX 360, though I think it will still release on PS3 in Japan only. Last Remnant is coming out of XBOX 360 first. XBOX 360 is the RPG game console.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/880/880434p1.html

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/880/880435p1.html

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[QUOTE="Br00klyn-"]There is Never too much, and you never played the game, so you don't know how much there is narutophilip6k

Last I heard the game would take somewhere around 100 hours to complete if you do everything. By my standards and I'm sure Rockstar's as well, that's more than enough for one game.

they also said gta sa would take 60-80 hours to do everything...

Perhaps this one will actually take 60-80 hours to do everything since they said 100. Haha.

There is Never too much, and you never played the game, so you don't know how much there is narutoBr00klyn-

Last I heard the game would take somewhere around 100 hours to complete if you do everything. By my standards and I'm sure Rockstar's as well, that's more than enough for one game.

but is the downloadable content something they could have put in the game in the first place...? or is all this talk just about their plans to make itag1002

It's too much content, there is already more than enough in the main game. If they were to add it to the full game, GTA 4 would release in 2009.

"I think the mission packs with the episodes are going to be pretty deep, offering another full-on adventure in this world," he told Edge. "I think we will be in a position to market them not a million miles away from the way the boxed game is marketed."

That pretty much says it all. It's a full on adventure just like the primary mission in the game. It's so big in fact that he says they'll be able to market it not unlike the way they plan to do with the full boxed version of the game.

"And if they like the episodes it will probably make sense to market them aggressively, and we want people to be there on that first day as much as is realistic. Our goal will be to fry those Xbox Live servers - we want to have as many people tune in at that moment as possible."

Full story - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184564

The downloadable content for GTA 4 on XBOX 360 is going to be massive. Look at the gap between the first episode of the exclusive content that will be releasing later this year, and the next episode which will be coming afterwards. It's almost a whole year after the first one. They're making a lot of content for them.

64 players on Frontlines is for PC ONLY. 360 IS 50. Maybe you should do your homework.DZBricktop

Or, perhaps the commercial should be more specific?

In my eyes, I dont think they really care about Lost Odyssey, or else they wouldnt have butchered the game so bad. I happen to think that LO was an amazing game. I rate it a 9.5. See how reviewers dont matter to me? Who cares about what they say half the time? If you believe them so much, you'd miss out on an entire section of good-great games. I almost didnt buy Lost Odyssey because of this problem. So I learned to make my own judgement. Good for me, lol.Elann2008

Yeah, I've basically lost all faith in the reviewers on most sites. They aren't thorough or consistant enough. Their methods create a big window for errors.

they review the game they are given by the devs... it's not their fault they didn't get a final copy. Secondly, stuff gets updated all the time, seriously, what are you talking about?mfp16

I don't care what is given to them by the developers, I only care about what I will be purchasing in the store. Perhaps they should only review copies of the game that come from retail to ensure accuracy, not just hope it's the right copy. The fact is they aren't ensuring accuracy to consumers. Rushing to get out a review before everyone else isn't worth it if you're releasing uninformed trash.

arent all the problems you just said ONLY on GS?KGB32

No sadly, many sites give out misinformation and they don't fix the information even after they find out about it. It makes me wonder why I even read information from these sites at all.

First it's the faux load times hampering reviews of Lost Odyssey, which was due to outdated reviewers copies of the game.

Then there's the review of Frontlines: Fuel of War saying that it only has 50 players at a time, when it's actually 64. Yet the information never seems to get updated, or changed. And, the reviews weren't redone for Lost Odyssey. It's hard to even trust anything game sites say anymore. It seems to be getting worse over time.

How do we know that these reviewers don't often times get outdated reviewers copies of games?