there is also "world of goo" which is great...

1) Braid - but I warn you it is difficult and requires thinking but it is awesome, with great controls and an epic story...

2) trine - much easier then Braid and alot of fun

I've played both, and both are amazing!

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[QUOTE="tocool340"] What do you mean "What are we"? We are FAR from perfect. If we were perfect, we wouldn't make so many mistakes in our lifetime, we wouldn't be susceptible to any sickness, the would be no arguments, and we wouldn't need to rage petty wars against each other. So define "perfect". I think your definition of the word is different than the dictionary...tocool340

gladly, ok first I didnt say humans are perfect, no humans are horrible, what I meant by perfect was everything else,

plants and animals: they form the perfect food chain, if 1 goes missing the food chain will change...

ozone layer: we are protected by the suns rays, so its not too powerful, but its good enough for plants and trees to grow

gravity: our gravity is perfect, because its strong enough to keep us to the ground, but not too strong, if it was too strong we wouldnt be able to throw a ball or jump!

distance from the sun: like I mentioned in the ozone layer, we are in a perfect distance from the sun, so its not too cold or too hot, and the sun is at a perfect size so again if, it was bigger we would be dead, or if it was smaller again we would die...

Again, what is your definition of perfect because nothing is near perfect the way everything fluctuates in this world...

screw up the main creation? do you mean us?

animals and plants are on the verge of extinction because of us, and whos fault is it that the ozone layer is less protective in some places?our fault! and yes I do know we dont orbit around the sun in a circle, because if we did we wouldnt have 4 seasons, it would consatantly be summer, or winter...

and yes the universe is a huge place and it could containmillions of planets and stars, but that doesnt explain how it is possible for non-living things can make a living thing...

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] There's actually millions and possibly billions of other variables that allow us to even exist. Just because his list is short doesn't discount from the actuality. foxhound_fox

so youre saying if gravity was suddenly gone, from the earth we would make wings and start flying? just like that?

also 147,098,070 km < thats when we have summer...and 152,097,700 km < and thats when we have winter :D again Gods perfection of earth, a circle of life, a perfect time for animals to hibernate...

[[QUOTE="Armenianwarrior"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"] Why does something need to have a purpose in order to exist?....tocool340

if there is no God then what are we? how was everything made so perfectly (animals, plants, ozone layer, gravity,our perfect distance of the sun,...)? how was life created without Him?

gladly, ok first I didnt say humans are perfect, no humans are horrible, what I meant by perfect was everything else,

plants and animals: they form the perfect food chain, if 1 goes missing the food chain will change...

ozone layer: we are protected by the suns rays, so its not too powerful, but its good enough for plants and trees to grow

gravity: our gravity is perfect, because its strong enough to keep us to the ground, but not too strong, if it was too strong we wouldnt be able to throw a ball or jump!

distance from the sun: like I mentioned in the ozone layer, we are in a perfect distance from the sun, so its not too cold or too hot, and the sun is at a perfect size so again if, it was bigger we would be dead, or if it was smaller again we would die...

[QUOTE="Armenianwarrior"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Just because you don't understand science doesn't mean goddidit.

STAR_Admiral

oh trust me my friend I understand science perfectly well, I can even disproove athiesm by using science, tell me how can science possible explain the creation of time, matter, space,planets,stars...?

Numerous people constantly misunderstand the "big bang theory". it is not a beginning. The universe is 20 billion years old from the time of the big bang. The big bang theory states how the current state of our universe came to be. It does not state that nothing existed before it. we don't really know what the universe was like before it.

The phrase "the universe is 20 billion years old" is equivalent to "it is the year 2011", of course there was an earth before the year 1. 2011 has an arbitrary startpoint of Jesus's birth, as does the "age" of the universe, which has the start point of the big bang.

well thats not what I've seen on the discovery channel, but everyone has his opinion about it,ok, since planets are formed from the explosion of stars, then how are stars even formed? there has not been a single observance of a star being formed, sure there are alot of theories of how stars could be formed, but no one has ever seen one form...and secondly I would like to say that the big bang is just a theory, its called the big bang THEORY, there is no scientific evidence prooving it...

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Really? last time i checked most of the wars over the last two thousand years have been thanks to religions, its a plague, even now because religious people always take everything to the extreme, and did you forget who used to burn everyone because they said they didnt believe in god and you talk about people hating those who dont share their beliefs?

And yes i dislike religions.. a lot... all i see in the history of religions is ignorance used to justify their agenda

If someone says evolution is a fairytale i wouldn't be offended, i would ask show me your FACTS which you are basing that statement, after all every theory poved wrong or right is a step forward to understanding this universe, but truly understanding, not just create imaginary beings to explain everything like the greeks did, and like the rest are doing now, is just only one now.

So far evolution has genetics on their side, people working and studying day after day all over the world, religion has.... some book someone write very long ago who didnt even knew the existance of cells in our body, and we all know people never exagerate or tell lies.

m25105

ok 1st of all, its true religion has caused wars and genocides between Cristians,mulsims....

yeah, I cant think of any, I guess youre right...

there are 6 types of evolution only which 1 of them has been prooved to be true...

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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

sorry but most atheists i know are not hipocrits who need a big bad invisible guy watching over us to be decent.

Krelian-co

You're claiming atheists aren't hypocrites while childishly criticizing Christians when atheists pride on themselves as acting as adults. Right...

Many atheists are the biggest hypocrites I know. All these individuals do is spew hatred toward anyone not sharing their belief, claiming that they're the ones being hated when really, it's the other way around.

Stephen Hawking himself referred to the afterlife as a fairytale. How would you like it if someone referred to evolution as a fairytale? I would find it offensive.

Really? last time i checked most of the wars over the last two thousand years have been thanks to religions, its a plague, even now because religious people always take everything to the extreme, and did you forget who used to burn everyone because they said they didnt believe in god and you talk about people hating those who dont share their beliefs?

And yes i dislike religions.. a lot... all i see in the history of religions is ignorance used to justify their agenda

If someone says evolution is a fairytale i wouldn't be offended, i would ask show me your FACTS which you are basing that statement, after all every theory poved wrong or right is a step forward to understanding this universe, but truly understanding, not just create imaginary beings to explain everything like the greeks did, and like the rest are doing now, is just only one now.

So far evolution has genetics on their side, people working and studying day after day all over the world, religion has.... some book someone write very long ago who didnt even knew the existance of cells in our body, and we all know people never exagerate or tell lies.

ok 1st of all, its true religion has caused wars and genocides between Cristians,mulsims...but what about athiesm, hitler was an athiest, sure he was born a Christian and he gave speeches that he was killing the jews in the name of God, wrong, hitler was an athiest, he believed in evolution, he believed humans evolved from apes, he believed that the jews hadnt evolved like the norwegians, swedish... and they didnt have aryan blood in the like the blonde hair, blue eyed swedishs/germans/norwegians had...thats why he slaugthered them, he was speeding up the evolution process(in his mind)

and this was hitlers hitlist:

2nd genetics only has prooved micro evolution, there is no evidence of macro evoltuion whatsoever...

[QUOTE="Armenianwarrior"]

if there is no God then what are we? how was everything made so perfectly (animals, plants, ozone layer, gravity,our perfect distance of the sun,...)? how was life created without Him?

tenaka2

Just because you don't understand science doesn't mean goddidit.

oh trust me my friend I understand science perfectly well, I can even disproove athiesm by using science, tell me how can science possible explain the creation of time, matter, space,planets,stars...?