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#1 BDANick
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i hope thats not all thats available... says no Alien game is slated for release until at least 2009... this has been a very long time in coming if it is....

still thanks for the link, good to know that SOMETHING is stirring, even if it is a very faint stirring...

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of course its a genre! and so is stealth!

There arent any good games for survival horror, but its still a genre. I look at it like this, if it exists in movie world, it has a twin in our world. In example, a game where the focus is on survival (rather as a game mechanic and not as a prerequesit for continued games-as in not just cuz if you die you cant keep shooting things) then the emphasis is taken away from what you do to the enemies and more on what you do to improve your survival rate. A good example would be something like the online game: Zombies, dont know if its still around, it was free and you chose a character archetype (cop, student, doctor, soldier, mechanic) and were prmptly dumped into an online city where you could band together and barricade yourself in various buildings in an attempt to survive the zombie hordes outside. It was less about fullfilling mission objectives and more about freeform attempts at putting stuff between you and the tangoes outside. Compared to res, which ISNT a survival horror, you have a pretty straightforward story, where you need to do A B C and D in order to progress. It would be very difficult to make a true survival horror game. I think the best way would be an online coop-style with maybe thirty players, sprawled over a city, trying to survive. Include a sewer system, an infection mechanic, vehicles, weapons, barricades, hiding capabilities and of course plenty of zombified monsters. If it was done right you could have a group of people, hiding from an approaching zombie, hiding behind whatevers around, where someone could sneak attack the zombie with some sort of coup-de-grace which would give that player some sort of bonus.

What would be neat is if at the begining of the game, you had maybe four different types of character archetypes, so if you were a doctor character, the game would choose whether you were secretly one of the doctors who was involved with the zombie outbreak, in which case youd be trying to either capture an infected, or, if you could, make one from one of your teamates... then you could have a military character, maybe hes working with the quarantine people, trying secretly to undermine escape efforts, or perhaps your a normal guy, whos secretly a serial killer. See thats where games get a bit stale these days. You cant really make a survival game, unless theres humans willing to betray you from the inside. That would be cool, imho.

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#3 BDANick
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oh man, Diablo wrecked my mouse, and made my wrists feel as though theyd been stuffed with glass shards...the n64 gave my hands allot of trouble, especially when the seams started to split and gave my knuckles blisters...then there was that time i hurt my neck talking on the phone and shooting aliens... and everytime i play lying on my stomach i hurt my back... youd think id learn... no pain no 'game'

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I'm a huge fan of alien myself, i have the quadrology, watched them all in a row when i got 'em and really enjoyed it! But it seems that that entire universe is just, well DIEING! i mean there's that new psp game thats just come out, but that alien vrs predator, not aliens. What Ive been hoping for for a while now, is a solid Alien game. Maybe take something from the comics/novels. Set it up on earth. ANYTHING!

Does nobody else want the glory of an alien warrior bearing down on you through the dark subterranean tunnels of some sickly deformed subway, alien goop streaming from above, pools of acidic alien blood, burning through your comrades as the overwhelming your utterly unprepared expeditionary force?! I want facehuggers, chest bursters, all of it, in glorious 1080i, with beautiful textures in sprawling desert environments with disgustingly well rendered Alien hordes, crawling over their dead, trying to catch me as i run like hell back to the drop-ship. Damn-it. Wheres the good alien games?

Don't even start me on Predator... the developers have all they need, hell its not like they have to make a story. Its all already there!

There was meant to be another Alien movie, where they came to Earth, that was scrapped after the horrendously thought out alien vs predator, the director thought that the franchise had lost its credibility. Why cant fans get the games they want so badly anymore?!?!

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I havent had the time to read the entire thread :( sorry, i saw the topic and i thought i could contribute.

ill just say first that im a horror buff. I have watched hundreds of class horror flicks. Whether this is a good thing or not i cant say. I found myself the object of some rather unsollicited scrutiny when during Hostel i started giggling like mad as the womans eye was revealed. That was an awkward moment for sure. I try and get my hands on as many terrifying things as possible. Poe, Lovecraft are my two FAVOURITE AUTHORS!!! if you have not expereinced either then you need to start reading their anthologies late at night in bed with the rain battering the roof... classic...

In my never ending quest of terror i have found one media, almost impossible to crack. You may guess already, yes, videogames... For some reason, the medium has not yet given me that incredible, delectable spine tingling fear that books and mand on the occasion film, has partaken unto me. Its actually quite annoying! i buy a game say Res 1-4 and play it all the way and get to end really not happy at all... i tend to ruin my own expecience by wishing to get scared. Call it a curse, but i cant seem to find anything!

For clarity i must define MY fear, remember when you were really young, and they told you that really terrifying ghost story. The one where you were up ALL NIGHT scared, trying to combat that all pervading, terror inducing expectation of nigh approaching doom? thats the fear i mean, not the fear one gets at the conclusion of F.E.A.R. which althugh very fun was not scary at all! DOOM 3 was good i thought, it was the closest id seen in a while.

The one candidate the experience of which unfortunatly will be lost now with the current generation, was the Original Silent Hill... I played that in the dark and had to stop near the begining for a break, (check windows were locked door etc etc). The game was great, although tedious at times, the claustrophobia closed me with the monsters and it was perfect. Unfortubalty i was around the age of 7 or 8 when i played that game on an aunts system in the UK... I have started to think that that experience is forever locked away in the recesses of my past... :( it is not heartening... Maybe, like some hollow drug addiction it is my continued exposure which has whittled away the response. I need my fix and that is why i will always support thos innovative developers who strive to that podium of terror...

so yeah in short, totally i play games basically to get scared... thats it pretty much... hope you liked the above, got into a real writing orgy up there.. sorry for the mess...

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And of course the best text based game ever is Babel, for anyone who hasnt played that...you just have to...
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#7 BDANick
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Personally i havent ever found myself scared playing a game.

Im an HP Lovecraft fan and as far as im en ce qui je mai concerne, there isnt anything scary about games like RE, or SH. The original Silent Hill i think did frighten me, but i was like...10? 7? So im highly suspect of whether it was any good. Castlevania was crap for fear factor... Im really sepressed with the state of the horror video game industry. They just never seem to get it right!

Doom 3 was fun, but i found it a bit tame.. The enemies never surprised me with their tactics, the element of horror disperses once you can see your enemy, thats why in good Horror productions, the enemy is either unknown or non-visible during most of the action. The enemies were well crafted, but they lacked that intangibility that makes "monsters" so scary. Personally i hate horror games with weapons. Or at least fully fledged arsenals.

NONE of the resident evils have any element of horror, maybe survival. Personally if they replaced the zombies with a flesh eating virus id be more scared. The zombies make me laugh, im sure alot of people think they look more than a bit stupid... Silent Hill has only gotten the acclaim its recieved because, and this isnt its fault in any way, its the only commercial "cerebral" horror game out there. I remember playing a text based horror game a long time ago, that was good. I think it was based around the Thing. Anyway all i can say to advise true horror-philes is that you wont find what your looking for in commercial game products, you really need to keep your eye under the radar to catch the games with the right atmosphere.