APPLE?!?!?! Whaaaaa?! What's innovative about taking an MP# player, making an audio format that increases file size and that can only be used with i-Pods, making a music service where you can download songs, but which are in that format and can only be used with i-Pods unless you go through some ridiculous techno fiddling whereby you put the tracks to a cd then put them back in order to remove their stupid license, and making a computer that's twice as expensive as a normal PC but has half the uses [/rant]bobbetybob

To be fair, the iPhone and I-Pod Touch are pretty neat, they are apparently entering the handheld gaming market as well, but MS? I honestly don't think they belong on that list....

[QUOTE="Balcian"]Big Rigs, the fight with physics was incredibly tear dropping.PandaBear86

Did it even HAVE physics to fight in the first place? You can drive up a steep hill at maximum speed, and you can do a full turn in like 0.2 seconds.

Not to mention, going 0 - 100 MPH in REVERSE in 3 seconds. :lol:

Graphics aside, you may be right, we haven't seen a game that was "next gen" in the sense of different gameplay. Crysis did some things different, but in the end, it still did things other games have done in the past.

Whatever the true definition of "next gen" may be, gamepley wise, I haven't seen anything that truely did something no other game has done, Super Mario Galaxy is the ONLY game I can really think of that was extremely different from a gameplay point of view.

EDIT: Just to add, happy Fathers Day to all the dads out there.