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#1 Big_Rusty
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[QUOTE="Big_Rusty"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

All I know is that this law is tainted with religion -- when there should be a seperation of church and state.

If its so bad for them to get married because it is not moral -- then we should make it illegal for people to get a divorce or get married after a divorce. It sounds illogical -- but then under religion -- that shouldnt be allowed anyway. But no -- these laws are done out of moral convenience.

Tauruslink

Becouse soicity makes the law does no want gay marrage.

You are wrong. Majority does not rule; the Constitution rules. And forbiding gay marriage is unconstitutional.

Also remember the Constitution up to who interprets and how they interprets it.

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#2 Big_Rusty
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[QUOTE="Big_Rusty"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

All I know is that this law is tainted with religion -- when there should be a seperation of church and state.

If its so bad for them to get married because it is not moral -- then we should make it illegal for people to get a divorce or get married after a divorce. It sounds illogical -- but then under religion -- that shouldnt be allowed anyway. But no -- these laws are done out of moral convenience.

Tauruslink

Becouse soicity makes the law does no want gay marrage.

You are wrong. Majority does not rule; the Constitution rules. And forbiding gay marriage is unconstitutional.

Says you but your not incharge. And you don't have the votes.

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#3 Big_Rusty
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All I know is that this law is tainted with religion -- when there should be a seperation of church and state.

If its so bad for them to get married because it is not moral -- then we should make it illegal for people to get a divorce or get married after a divorce. It sounds illogical -- but then under religion -- that shouldnt be allowed anyway. But no -- these laws are done out of moral convenience.

Sajedene

Becouse soicity makes the law does no want gay marrage.

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#4 Big_Rusty
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[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="tok1879"]

Please stop comparing being black to being gay It's an insult to most black people.

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Its probably an insult to some gay people, given the voting record of blacks on this very Proposition.

Agreed!! So please stop comparing them.

To be fair, its the closest thing to compare it to. The last major civil rights movment in the US was that of black people in from the 1950s onwards. Its obvious that the black community, hypocritically, is generally one of the most anti-homosexual communities in America. Despite the fact that many now take the view many whites took 50 years ago (that is, 'we like the way it is now, because have our rights'), there are some similarities between the two movements.

People forget struggle after a time.

Which is odd, as people struggle in the past to keep people from having to struggle in the future.

The more cynical side of me thinks that after MLK died, it became more about black rights, rather than rights in general.

Yes! I agree with you, All of these are the same as black rights. Why don't we go further and just give everyone equal rights as "black rights." We should just declare everybody should be free to do whatever, they want. Act out on any urge you have, "as long as you don't hurt anyone else." Go ahead marry your sixth wife! why stop at that? Marry your dog, we already have the right to neuter them anyway. You and your sister are in love? What's stopping you? Marry each other!

To compare two consenting adults getting married to polygamy, incest, and bestiality is rather insulting.

Yeah i guess two consenting adults should have more rights than three or more consenting adults.

Polygamy completely destroys the value of marriage though :|

That's like saying you are okay with commitment... as long as there is more than woman you are allowed to be committed to.

So you're agreeing that it's possible for the values of marriage to be destroyed? I personally don't think so, but i'm sure a lot of people out there would consider gay marriage something that will destroy the value of marriage. And commitment doesn't necessaryily have to be between two people. Three people can commit as well as four. It's all about what is accepted and frowned on in different societies.

The values of marriage are purely legal the way I see it. Same sex marriage is fine but animals and polygamy? That's probably where the line is pretty much crossed.

If we allow gay marrage that line will be crossed. Whats to stop certain groups to demand the marrage between man and a animal in a ever widing definition of marrage. We must draw the line here why we still can.

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