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#1 Citizen_Zero
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[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Sketchbaz"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

I'll talk to you about Elder Scrolls.

I'm assuming you think that Oblivion was dumbed-down as a result of being developed for a console? What about Morrowind? That came out at about the same time on the XBox as on PC, just a few months difference. >_>

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Morrowind was dumbed down compared to Daggerfall. But still it wasn't dumbed down half as much as Oblivion.

I'm glad someone else said it. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall.

Granted, I haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games, but I often hear alot of people whining about how "Morrowind was better!" than Oblivion. >_>

However, I think that the notion that games are dumbed-down because they're made on consoles is stupid. They're dumbed-down so that they can appeal to a wider audience and sell more copies to casuals. Then, they port the games to consoles to sell games to a wider audience, which is the console gamers. However, the two are unrelated for dumbing-down. >_>

Yes, consoles have many more casuals...who think they are hardcore. Therefore, putting it on consoles, they have to dumb it down -- because of it's fanbase -- not platform. Unless it's due to hardware/control configurations.

So the consoles are not dumbing down the games, the fanbase is? So why does every one say the console it's self is to blame?

Because it's easy access for all the casuals. Dumby proof. PC and console have majorly different fans.

So the console it's self is not to blame, it's the console fanbase that is to blame aka more casuals.
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#2 Citizen_Zero
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Sketchbaz"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

I'll talk to you about Elder Scrolls.

I'm assuming you think that Oblivion was dumbed-down as a result of being developed for a console? What about Morrowind? That came out at about the same time on the XBox as on PC, just a few months difference. >_>

baddog121390

Morrowind was dumbed down compared to Daggerfall. But still it wasn't dumbed down half as much as Oblivion.

I'm glad someone else said it. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall.

Granted, I haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games, but I often hear alot of people whining about how "Morrowind was better!" than Oblivion. >_>

However, I think that the notion that games are dumbed-down because they're made on consoles is stupid. They're dumbed-down so that they can appeal to a wider audience and sell more copies to casuals. Then, they port the games to consoles to sell games to a wider audience, which is the console gamers. However, the two are unrelated for dumbing-down. >_>

Yes, consoles have many more casuals...who think they are hardcore. Therefore, putting it on consoles, they have to dumb it down -- because of it's fanbase -- not platform. Unless it's due to hardware/control configurations.

So the consoles are not dumbing down the games, the fanbase is? So why does every one say the console it's self is to blame?
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#3 Citizen_Zero
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Umm.. how can a game be dumbed down, did they make two version and just give us the crapy one?
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If Mass Effect was a chick, i would so plow her. ;)
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#5 Citizen_Zero
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[QUOTE="audioslavery5"]Xbox 3 should be upgradeable IMO. I would imagine DX11 could be tacked on... We are moving forward little by little, it should be possible.

NO!! Thats the soil reason why i buy consoles and have a mid end PC. I don't like to upgrade, i just don't got the cash for stuf like that, hell i hade to save up to get a X360.
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#6 Citizen_Zero
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[QUOTE="audioslavery5"]If anything, this is GREAT news for the LEMMINGS! Imagine our DX10 nex gen console XBox 3 with DX10 etc. It will pwn with DX10!TOAO_Cyrus

What about when DX11 is released?

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#7 Citizen_Zero
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[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus"]

[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"]Hey think about it, if crysis runs at 60fps at 2048x1536 with a single 8800 and 2 cores. Is that not proof enough you could run crysis on max dx9, 60fps with 1280x720 rez on consoles? TOAO_Cyrus

No its not. Its the exact opposite. DX10 isnt just new features it comes with massive optimizations (6-8 times as fast as DX9 according to MS). The DX10 version looks better and runs much better.

You don't got to be hateful about it, im just a guy that wants to skip a 600$ upgrade to run kick ass PC games.

Sorry I didnt mean to come off as hateful.

Well im going have to upgrade sooner or later if i want to run Quake wars, spore and crysis. Im just a cheep ass lol
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[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"]Hey think about it, if crysis runs at 60fps at 2048x1536 with a single 8800 and 2 cores. Is that not proof enough you could run crysis on max dx9, 60fps with 1280x720 rez on consoles? TOAO_Cyrus

No its not. Its the exact opposite. DX10 isnt just new features it comes with massive optimizations (6-8 times as fast as DX9 according to MS). The DX10 version looks better and runs much better.

You don't got to be hateful about it, im just a guy that wants to skip a 600$ upgrade to run kick ass PC games.
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#9 Citizen_Zero
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Hey think about it, if crysis runs at 60fps at 2048x1536 with a single 8800 and 2 cores. Is that not proof enough you could run crysis on max dx9, 60fps with 1280x720 rez on consoles?
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#10 Citizen_Zero
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WOW sucks to be a HardCore Blind $ony fan!