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#1 Coseniath
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@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

From TechSpot, tested only with Griffin scene

I know.... and its a poor benchmark choice

Wccftech tested city, village, swamp etc and FX 8350 kept up with i5 4690

" once we hit the heavy Novigrad area, they compete very nicely – the FX 6300 moves ahead of the i3, while the FX 8350 is very close to the 4690K."

When it comes to Wccftech, don't trust anything.

These guys are not professionals (although this is not so bad) and they are always not so honest...

Just a small example of their GPU editor (Khalid Moammer) before RX480 launch:

I hope anyone with GTX980 or R9 390X didn't sell their GPU... :S

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@farhat: Yeap, i5 3550 is like the i5 3570K in terms of turbo, which means, when the system will ask for more CPU performance, it can go even 400MHz higher, up to 3,7GHz.

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#3  Edited By Coseniath
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@farhat: Well as I said before, you can take any i5 3xxx/2xxx. Even i7s.

The problem is their availability. I can only find the one I linked and i5-3550 3.3GHz for 209 euro, but the problem is that it costs 9 euro more :P.

ps: Nope, you cannot overclock with this motherboard.

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@farhat: Since you got an Ivy Bridge CPU, you have an Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge motherboard. So you can use a an Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge i5.

That means you can use i5 2xxx and i5 3xxx CPUs.

You can find a lot i5s 3xxx below 200euros.

Like: i5-3330 for 179 euros.

@PredatorRules: He can't use Haswell CPU without changing his motherboard. xD

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@thealbinoquincy: Stay away from reference RX480.

Get a non-reference RX480. Its just a few $$. With a few $$ you will get more performance, a more silent card, a cooler card and more important, a better powered card.

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#6  Edited By Coseniath
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+1 for FX8350. It seems to be the best reasonable (in price) choice.

But I am not so sure how much of an upgrade 2 extra cores + 400MHz of the same architecture will be.

In my opinion it will probably be waste of money. A cheap option too, is to keep the RAM and go for H81/B85 + i5 4440 for $220.

In the end its your choice, but I don't think its worth it to spend $150+ and after all, you will need to upgrade again in the near future...

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@kingzeus1: I tried to find what they use but it seems they use a custom 850w PSU with these specs:

Power ratings

Input voltage100 VAC–240 VAC
Input frequency50 Hz–60 Hz
Temperature range
Operating5°C to 50°C (41°F to 122°F)
Storage–40°C to 70°C (–40°F to 158°F)
Type460 W850 W
Input current (maximum):8 A10 A
Output current:3.3V/17A, 5V/25A, 12VA/18A, 12VB/16A, 12VC/8A, 5Vaux/3A3.3V/20A, 5V/20A, 12VA/32A, 12VB/48A, 12VD/16A, -12V/0.5A, 5Vaux/4A
Rated output voltage:3.3V, 5V, 12VA, 12VB, 12VC, 5Vaux3.3V, 5V, 12VA, 12VB, 12VD, -12V, 5Vaux

And from what I see, it is liqued cooled:

In my opinion, you can build a far better build (both in specs and quality) for the same amount of $$.

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#8  Edited By Coseniath
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@PredatorRules said:

@kingzeus1: For PSU I'd get EVGA G2/P2 series with 10 years warranty.

RMx Seriesâ„¢ RM850x:

Ten year warranty

Your guarantee of reliable operation that will last across several system builds.

Corsair changed their policy and they offer 10y warranty to every digital high end PSU.

:P

ps: They didn't give 10y to my analog high end PSU :(

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#9  Edited By Coseniath
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@RyviusARC: There is more to just "laptop GPUs are equal to desktop now".

For a long time (5+ years), x104 GPUs are always in mobile GPUs.

This time, due to such a big improvement in fabrication process (28nm --> 16nm), apart from the lower power consumption, we also have lower heat from the chips.

And lets not forget that the biggest chip (GP104) is just 314 mm². A very small chip that laptops can easily handle.

We will never see a GP102 laptop GPU. But never say never...

Unfortunately, Nvidia vs AMD looks more like Intel vs AMD (in CPUs) right now, with this generation (we still wait for vega) that we can find in the market, best Nvidia chip is 138% faster than best AMD chip (GP102 vs Polaris10).

And from what I read, AMD's target for laptops will be Polaris11... (just... no comment.)

I have a feeling that even a GTX1060 laptop will cost over $1200...

The good part is that soon, even a GTX1050 laptop (even if it will be 30% slower than GTX1060, with other words 10-15% slower than GTX970) will be a very capable gaming laptop.

And x50 laptops usually cost less than $1000, even $800 some times.

I think that this year's Black Friday will be a good day for gaming laptop buyers!

edit: Wow! Nvidia Pascal for Notebooks: In-depth Benchmarks for the Geforce GTX 1080 (SLI), GTX 1070, and GTX 1060 (from NotebookCheck)

Difference compared to GTX980M:

And here is the difference of GTX980M with previous generations:

This time the magnitude of upgrade is huge... (I guess 16nm is truly a huge upgrade compare to 28nm).

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#10  Edited By Coseniath
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NVIDIA launches GeForce GTX 10 series for notebooks (from VideoCardz)

Today NVIDIA launches first Pascal-based graphics cards for notebooks.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10 for notebooks:

NVIDIA GeForce 10 Series
MOBILEGeForce GTX 1080 MobileGeForce GTX 1070 MobileGeForce GTX 1060 Mobile
GPUGP104GP104GP106
GPU Configuration2560 : 160 : 642048 : 128 : 641280 : 80 : 48
GPU Clock?1443 / 1645 MHz1405 / 1569 MHz
Mem. Clock / Effective1250 / 10000 MHz2002 / 8008 MHz2002 / 8008 MHz
Memory Type8GB GDDR5X8GB GDDR56GB GDDR5
Memory Bus256-bit256-bit192-bit
DESKTOPGeForce GTX 1080 DesktopGeForce GTX 1070 DesktopGeForce GTX 1060 Desktop
GPUGP104-400GP104-200GP106-400
GPU Configuration2560 : 160 : 641920 : 120 : 641280 : 80 : 48
GPU Clock1607 / 1733 MHz1506 / 1683 MHz1506 / 1709 MHz
Mem. Clock / Effective1251 / 10008 MHz2002 / 8008 MHz2002 / 8008 MHz
Memory Type8GB GDDR5X8GB GDDR56GB GDDR5
Memory Bus256-bit256-bit192-bit

There are many laptops that already offering GTX1080/70/60 in their arsenal.

:)