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#1 Crazy_Legs87
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I think Mods are human and are likely going to make decisions with a human bias.

I think if they see a user that makes posts they personally agree with, they're going to be a little more lenient with what they get away with.

Though I see people on here that argue with some pretty incredibly stupid reasonings and they still stick around, so I'd say Mods here are pretty fair.

Enid_Green

I've been thinking that same. Even if you follow the forum rules, you're still not 100% safe. Each mod has a different perception on what trolling and spamming is, and some of them tend to be bias towards certain users.

I've been with Capcom Unity for over two years, back then the mods were completely different people, I guess I can say that's it's a different ball game. But it's not just mods, it's also the community, all the users that you know as good users will either get banned or leave the site, and new ones will come in, and maybe the majority of them could be bad. The off topic forums at Capcom Unity is plague with trolls now, but back two years ago, it was a good place with good users to interact with, but the majority of those people I knew are no longer around, it's just terrible users.

The mod that suspended me said that my behavior doesn't fit with their current rules. It's funny how he used the words "current rules." Like I said, I was with the site for over two years, I guess my behavior was fine then because the mod that suspended now, wasn't a mod back then, I can also say the same thing about the other group of mods that have a problem with me.

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#2 Crazy_Legs87
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[QUOTE="Crazy_Legs87"]

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]I didnt know Linky was that famous.

Allicrombie

You knew Linky?

I know him from here.

Then what did you think of him? Do you think he was a good user?

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#3 Crazy_Legs87
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I disagree a lot and have gotten moderations but nothing that I think will get me banned.

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You never know, dude. Just watch yourself if you don't want to get ban.

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#4 Crazy_Legs87
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[QUOTE="Crazy_Legs87"]But still, even if was out of line with my post, that doesn't mean that the users in my thread were any better. Like I said towards the end of the OP, that banned user got unbanned.

If you were aggressive in past threads, does that mean that people have every right to spam, troll and derail your threads?MissLibrarian

Did you report any of the people who were trolling and spamming your thread, or just lose your temper and start lashing out at people? You can't do much about a situation like that except make sure that you're acting in a calm and reasonable manner. That way is the most likely way to avoid moderations regardless of whether your opinions are popular or not.

And regarding the second part, it certainly doesn't help matters, if anyone has behaved aggressively or disrespectfully in the past it's a bit rich of them to expect absolute civility at a later date.

I report them to the mods before things got out of hand. I even told him to delete the spams because they can be very distracting, but he didn't do that.

One of the users that was derailing my topic actually encouraged a user's troll post by replying to it with "Haha." After that, he began derailing my topic about him talking about how that troll should get a second chance.

Here's the troll post that resulted to the user's bannishment: "Yep, I got to keep my post count up. Trolling endless." And for some reason, the guy who was derailing my topic believe he's a good user.

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#5 Crazy_Legs87
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It is beginning quite common on gaming websites hosted by particular developers (i.e. Capcom, BioWare, Blizzard). People spend hours putting together well-reasoned arguments to support their critiques with extensive examples and citations... only to be banned, or even worse (in one case involving Dragon Age II) get their game locked out so they can't play it. As much as I find the idea repugnant... all of them are private sites with specific rules and discretionary moderation staff. So one can't complain when one is banned, because what is said there isn't protected by free speech. I also find it funny, considering game developers should be encouraging constructive criticism in order to learn how to make that game, and ones after it better.

foxhound_fox

And the thing is that the people that side with the publisher would get just as aggressive with the people who get critical about the publisher. I would say a short comment like, "I suppose if Capcom were to take a dump in a bag and mark it 60$ you would pay for it. " I become the worst in the forums and get unfairly treated with spams and troll post in other threads. But users who side with the company would look at well thought out opinions and say, "How's is this legitimate? Stop being a moron."

i kid you not, there's a guy on the Capcom site that's calling everyone that disagrees a moron or a idiot. He was a mod at one point, and even then, he was still calling people a idiot.

What irritates me the most is that I would get ban or suspended while the ones who are just as guilty or worst get left unharmed all because they don't disagree. that upsets me more than just my banning or suspension alone.

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#6 Crazy_Legs87
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I didnt know Linky was that famous.

Allicrombie

You knew Linky?

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[QUOTE="Crazy_Legs87"]I made a post about how I was upset and basically said how it was stupid that people were defending a troll while derailing a topic, and also said to a user who made multiple post in defends of the troll, and had nothing to do with the topic, that he was a troll as well.MissLibrarian
Right. This is probably the reason for your banning/suspension/whatever there rather than anything else.

But still, even if was out of line with my post, that doesn't mean that the users in my thread were any better. Like I said towards the end of the OP, that banned user got unbanned.

If you were aggressive in past threads, does that mean that people have every right to spam, troll and derail your threads?

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#8 Crazy_Legs87
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What do you mean by 'got upset'?

MissLibrarian

I made a post about how I was upset and basically said how it was stupid that people were defending a troll while derailing a topic, and also said to a user who made multiple post in defends of the troll, and had nothing to do with the topic, that he was a troll as well.

I ended up getting unfairly treated by the mods while the users got away with it, all because of my past post of disagreeing with a bunch of people. The mods even brought it up when they suspended me.

But even if I was too aggressive, that doesn't justify my thread getting derail with trolls and spams.

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#9 Crazy_Legs87
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If you were a troll or spammer, you would be posting opinions that contrast many. Else you're neither trolling or spamming. I bet I'd be more likely to get banned if I made a thread pondering the type of underwear Mailer wears. Actually, you know what? That's what this thread is about now. What kind of underwear do you guys think Mailer wears? Boxers? Briefs? Commando? Discuss.

cd_rom

No. I remember over at GiantBomb someone post a thread about the BombCast being too long, and he got replied with "F*** You" and that user got away with it.

As for your quesion, boxer.

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#10 Crazy_Legs87
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I've been noticing a lot on multiple web sites that users who disagree a lot, no matter how good they are, tend to get ban for keep posting opinions that are a contrast to a lot of users in that web sites. While users who are flat out troll and spam a lot get away with it, all because they don't post opinions that are a contrast to others.

Mods always like to claim that it's "aggressive behavior," but here's the thing, I've seen users on the opposite side get just as aggressive, I've seen those users going around calling others a moron and a idiot, but for some reason they always get away with.

One situation is in GiantBomb, they're two users name Linkyshink and Oldschool - two great posters - they became infamous for being critical of the GiantBomb staff, they posted their opinions in a well thought out informed fashion, never like "LOL, the staff's journalism sucks." They get banned for being critical, in other words, disagreeing, while people who are flat out trolls and spammers or got just as aggressive are left unharmed.

Another situation is mine. Over at Capcom Unity I got "suspended" (I think, that's what the mods told me) for my behavior. I have been critical about how Capcom makes their games, my opinions were a contrast to many users of the forums. I went to the off topic forums to post a thread about Duke Nukem Forever, soon the thread got bombarded with spams and troll posts, a user got banned for that. I figured once that user got banned things would go back on track, but no, several users decided to derail the topic by saying stuff in defends of the troll, my thread got a bunch of new post that had nothing to do with the topic, I got upset about that, and here's what happens next, I got suspended. It was clear that I got unfairly treated due to my past behavior. And the banned user, got unbanned after.

Here's the moral of the whole thing, if you're a troll and a spammer, you can get away with it if you don't post opinions that are a contrast to many, just keep agreeing with mods and the majority of the community of that web sites.