[QUOTE="simomate"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

TC, You fail on so many levels

1. The underwater and gliding segments, as well as better item balancing, are being praised by dozens of reviewers as great subtle changes.

2. It doesn't have all old tracks. it has 16 new, and 16 remade to suit the new content

3. You're ignoring a huge amount of nintendo IPs let me list them

Disaster Day of Crisis, Xenoblade, Chibi Robo, Custom Robo, all the dozens of different Art S(tyle) games, Dillion's Rolling Western, Pushmo, Battalion Wars, Tact of Magic, and so many more

Also, you can argue Excite Truck/Bots are new IPs since they differ from the older ExciteBike series so much, the same goes for Kid Icarus since it plays so little like old Kid Icarus

Plus, they have so many IPs to revive, like Fire Emblem and Punch Out, Sin & Punishment (which was basically a new IP to everyone outside of Japan)

This doesn't include huge experimental installments in series that make them almost resemble different games like Metroid: Other M, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc.

WarTornRuston

1. Praised for improving mechanics of items, which has been complained about, and adding new gameplay variety (underwater and gliding) =reviewers being scared to give a Nintendo game a bad score. I fail to understand any of that.

2. Having 16 brand new tracks, and 16 remade 'retro' tracks =/= half of a new game. There are many more features in the game which set it apart from it's predecessors.

3. Just because YOU haven't played them, doesn't mean they're bad. Disaster day of crisis, Chibi Robo, Battalion wars, Tact of magic, Sin and punishment, etc. are all GREAT games.

4. Let me guess, you just watched youtube videos of Punch-out? It's far from just a graphical update. I logged a good 60hrs into that game alone. BTW, OoT is on N64, Virtual console, and remade on 3DS. Mario 64 is on N64, and made on DS with new gameplay elements.

5. Other M was not crap, it was just to linear for a metroid game, but still a great game. Kirby's Epic yarn was not "just another Kirby game." Infact, both of those games could have passed as new IP's if they didn't use the same memorable characters. But in your world, a game is a rehash if it uses the same characters, eventhough everything else is completley changed.

6. How is every Zelda game the same thing if the story is changed, the art is changed, the world is changed and the control scheme is changed every time? Same character use again?

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Good think I don't like multiplayer very much at all... lol, good try.

And yes, TAKE MY WORD AS TRUTH. Do it, or whichever heavens you choose will strike you down into Oblivion and force you to play that conversation mingame to get people to like you! Because thats exactly what i said to do! Muahahahahaha! :roll:

Bravo.

lx_theo

So of the 27 Games that he listed, you have beat 5, which you admit are good, which leaves 22 games which you haven't beat.

Then you go on to say that 12 of those 22 games, you've played, but did not complete due to them not being desired.

This leaves 10 games that you haven't played.

As for me,of the 27 Games that he listed, I have beat 23 of them, 18 which I admit are excellent, 3 of which are not so good, and 2 horrible. which leaves 4 games which I haven't beat.

Of all of the games I own, I have beat them all.

This leaves 4 games that I haven't played.

Therefore, I have more experience than you with those games, so when I say two horrible games out of the 27, my word should be taken with more credibility than yours.

...If we're going to play the SW formula.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] WHile there are a few good ones in there, you just listed off a ton of horrible franchises.lx_theo

And yes, TAKE MY WORD AS TRUTH. Do it, or whichever heavens you choose will strike you down into Oblivion and force you to play that conversation mingame to get people to like you! Because thats exactly what i said to do! Muahahahahaha! :roll:

Bravo.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"] In the case of the sequels the hater are praising? No. Uncharted = Same controls, same art style different world, different quests through 1, 2 & 3. Gears of war = Same controls, same art style, different world, different quests through 1, 2 & 3. Zelda = Different controls, different art style different world, different quests through all games. Therefore, Zelda is rehashed.

EDIT: Okay, maybe OoT, and Majoras Mask used same controls. Also, TLoZ and Zelda II. But the rest are different :P

AtariKidX

All Nintendo games are rehashed......

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]If you think Skyward Sword is the same as other Zelda's then you are wrong. Different world, different quest, and different controls. Isn't that what every other sequel is?bbkkristian

Yep. The character is all that matters. If we see the same Character, even with completely different game mechanics, story, controls, world etc (i.e every Nintendo sequel) it's a rehash. .... (i.e every Nintendo sequel) :P

*Sarcastic tone*

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

I agree with everything TC said. The only people who would even pretend to disagree and the kids with Link avatars...

YoshiYogurt

Please do enlighten me. Nintendo games always feel like they have worthwhile changes and great new content to me.

The reason is because he's a kid who thinks Zombies are cool. *See avatar* ...He may also like turtles.

If you think Skyward Sword is the same as other Zelda's then you are wrong. Different world, different quest, and different controls. Isn't that what every other sequel is?bbkkristian

In the case of the sequels the hater are praising? No.

Uncharted = Same controls, same art style different world, different quests through 1, 2 & 3.

Gears of war = Same controls, same art style, different world, different quests through 1, 2 & 3.

Zelda = Different controls, different art style different world, different quests through all games. Therefore, Zelda is rehashed.

EDIT: Okay, maybe OoT, and Majoras Mask used same controls. Also, TLoZ and Zelda II. But the rest are different :P

Phantom Hourglass is my second least favourite Zelda game (Least being Zelda II).
Though Skyward sword, in my book is amazing, well deserved 10/10, Twilight Princess is still my favourite of all time.

Just remember sheep. You all never have the right to talk about another company milking a franchise so bad that the teets start leaking powder. Nintendo has mastered the art of doing the same thing over and over again and calling it different......and you guys play along like 3 well blind mice.

WarTornRuston

Oh look. Nintendo haters trash talking about games they haven't played. Suprise suprise.
It's funny how they talk about rehashing, when they make they same argument (that has been shot down countless times) over and over again.
Atleast get something new to say.