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#1 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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After every battle the characters of FF like 2 dance around or swing their swords or w.e ...the point is...who do you think has the coolest....

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Metal Gear games r good, I life FFVII ur point? You can like various types of games...story in depth or no...

Also saying FFVII gamers are not "true RPG gamers" is a stereotype making your arguement quite contradicting to itself....by expressing your limited view...to be a true RPG gamer one simply has 2 have an obession with RPGs and such they have played various kinds ...as I have...(from FF to Xenosaga to MMORPGs like Guildwars and WOW) I have been playing RPGs for as long as I can remember now 2 say that I cannot be a true RPG gamer and that my statements r invalid only makes yourself seem uneducated..so please consider what you say and account for your anti-FFVII in your arguements and word it more appropriately



You are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. There are many blind FFVII fanboys in this world, and they cannot be true RPG gamers if they only play one series, which completely defeats anything you are saying


 

P.S. why am I listening to a guy who can't even spell out the word 'are'?
fs_metal


I am typing fast....I have better things to do than argue with people of your ilk
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[QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"]

Zidanes personality was changing faster than my weapons for him, and he was irratical in the gameplay as he possesed no real personality, he was kinda your I am teh best **** u all kind of personalities as well,

He also had the gayest character design known to mankind

He also made Vaan look normal....Zidane also lacked leadership qualities...being he was autocratic, and he seemed to be more of a childish character...with no serious portion to him....hell Super Mario Characters take the story more serious than Zidane

There are flip tiems when Zidane is emo though, liek his whole battle thing "i am not alone" is playing it the background....ohh hell do I really need to continue?

fs_metal

He had a rock steady personality as a generally nice guy that shows concern for those that he loves and was a bit of a player

Tidus and Squall look much, much gayer than Zidane ever did

Vaan doesn't look as bad as people say he did/

He did not lack leadership qualities. He knew how to take charge, and knew how to get things done. He was the least childish character since FFVI. He was, however, more realistic because he wasn't constantly serious. He could take life seriously, but he could also be laid back and relaxed or joke arround.

Zidane was never emo. He had a strong spirit and a strong will something that characters like Tidus and Cloud lack

Your arguement is stupid, you say he is the least childish and than turn around and say he wasnt constantly serious and was an "out there" kind of character, more realistic...and no offense but his laid back moments were not properly placed...also Zidane was by far the gayest looking, I am sorry how can you justify the gay vest, the tail (ya i know you can justify the tail as part of the story) and the emo look he had on the cover of the bloody game case (backing), I am sorry he looks lke a douche, the crappy graphics in the game actually made him loook better, he wore those dumb ass gloves, like he was gardening or somthing, Zidanes personality is arguably real but than again Squalls, Clouds, Tidus and any other FF character...even Vaan are arguable real aswell, plus Zidane was not your caring individual..hell Tidus was probably one of the most caring..not saying hes great lol, thus also proving that your arguement is BS, you have constantly stated your anti-FFVII, FVIII, FX opinions over and over,,,,you just keep trolling and frankly it should come to an end for the good of the union, because I can just as easily troll FFXI to death...and if you continue so will I

My arguement is not stupid. I based it off of what the game presents as his personality. He is a fantastic and well rounded characters, where as the 2 that came before him weren't

Zidane didn't look gay or emo. I don't even know where you are getting that. It makes no sense

FFIX had the best graphics of the PSX FF games dude

Imagine a thief wearing gloves *rolls eyes*


Cloud had no personality. That isn't real. Squall had no personality. That's not real. Tidus whines too much to be real. You cannot argue about them being real. Vaan, on the other hand, could have an arguement in his favor

Zidane was very caring dude. His biggest concern in his life were his friends. I do not know what game you played, but it was not FFIX

All Tidus cared about was himself and how he had been treated in the past.

I just proved your arguement BS dude, You proved nothing.

I am not anti FFX dude. I liked the game. I liked the story. I liked Yuna, Wakka, Kihmari and Auron. The battle system was kind of fun for a while as well. I liked the sphere grid. It was a good character developement system

go log out of life lolz :P

The game was BS and garbage...the graphics i never argued the level wasnt good, for the PSone but hte type of "kiddy" or "midget" characters is BS

Additionally the majority will agree with me that FFVII is WAY better than FFIX so therefore I have statistical support, unlike you who have nothing (FFVIII on the other hand cannot be weighed aganst FFIX)

Squall had a personality, more than Zidane ever had, he was the loner style of character, you can argue that he wasa stupid character, but to argue that its not realistic is just plain bull****

I played FFIX and hate the game with a passion

AND the gloves r gay dumbass, they look like gardening gloves, almost all the characters in lead roles are wearing gloves...but ohh I am sry, your 2 busy flaming to play any of gthe games thoroughly

...freaking FFIX fanboy

The character design ws better than the generic anime stuff in FFVII and FFVIII.

Statistics prove nothing. Just as an example, millions of people love Nirvana, but if you ask most people with a real appreciation for real talent in the music, Nirvana isn't worth a damn (And I agree with this., Nirvana is not worth a damn). Just because it is the most popular, it does not mean that it is the best. There are many, many reasons to dislike FFVII, and many RPG hardcore gamers do not like it because of any number of the previously mentioned reasons. If I want a good, honest opinion on role playing games, I will not ask a hardcore FFVII fanboy/girl. I will ask an RPG hardcore. Hell, alot of hte FFVII fanbase don't even know what else is out there, so how can said opinion count when one has no knowledge of that one speaks? I believe IX to be better than VII. Many people I know agree with me. The fact that there are millions of fanboys blind to other RPGs that disagree with me does not make me wrong

All Squall ever did was say "whatever" which did not give him any personality. Zidane, on the other hand, was very lively throughout the whole of the story, which gave him personality. Advantage: Zidane

So you went from "Not my favorite" to "I hate it" just because I disagree with you. Pathetic reason dude. FFIX is a great game with a great story and some great characters. IT is everything FF should be

Don't call me a dumbass, dumbass. Why would a thief be picky about what type of gloves he or she wears? It does not matter. Grab some leather gloves or whatever. As long as they serve their purpose

It appears to me that you are the one that has not played the games thoroughly.

I am far removed from a FFIX fanboy

ROFL do you listen to yourself? True just because things are more popular doesnt mean they are any better HOWEVER saying that the fanboys/gitrls are not good RPG gamers (not hardcore w.e) is the same as saying anyone who enjoys FFIX is likely homosexual....their is no proof, nor could it be proved in any way shape or form, plus you constantly critique FFVII, and you state FFIX as the best (or one of the best), you seem to, in your selection of games prefer the more medival (with airships of course :P) style of game, rather than the Sci-fi modern, I in turn like the opposite, the modern style games, and our defence, or hate towards characters seems to reflect the game more than the overall character flaws, however in my opinion Zidane is crap, in your opinion Tidus, Cloud and Squall are crap....personally it doesnt really matter because we are both entitled to our speech...so lets stop the hate and ...lol

I listen to myself make good arguements.

Most of hte hardcore FFVII fanboys really don't know what else is out there. I have experienced this. I speak from personal experience, sir. I would mich rather get opinions of someone that is a true fan of RPGs than that.

No. FFVI and FFIV are the best. I really like FFIX, but it is not the best. I prefer FF to be mideval instead of sci fi because FF was meant to be as such. If Phantasy Star made a mideval game, I would not be happy;. Thank God that series doesn't steer THAT far from it's roots.

If you prefer the more modern or sci fi stype of games, why are you playing FF instead of Xenogears, Phantasy Star, Star Ocean or Shin Megami Tensei?

I just do not see what is so greawt ab out Tetsuya Nomura. He makes games aimed at angsty teens, which is something that I am not. His stories seem simple to me. A person on the CAD forum said his games are "for simpletons" and, not to insult anyone, I pretty much agree with this sentiment. That's what his games seem like it me. I would much rather play more mature and more complex stories such as FFXII, Killer 7 or Metal Gear

Metal Gear games r good, I life FFVII ur point? You can like various types of games...story in depth or no...

Also saying FFVII gamers are not "true RPG gamers" is a stereotype making your arguement quite contradicting to itself....by expressing your limited view...to be a true RPG gamer one simply has 2 have an obession with RPGs and such they have played various kinds ...as I have...(from FF to Xenosaga to MMORPGs like Guildwars and WOW) I have been playing RPGs for as long as I can remember now 2 say that I cannot be a true RPG gamer and that my statements r invalid only makes yourself seem uneducated..so please consider what you say and account for your anti-FFVII in your arguements and word it more appropriately

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#4 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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I own it....its ok...I am a Vuncent fan though so i dunno....the story and gameplay was good, but the game was 2 short and it wasnt a freeroam style of game, very linear...like a Devil May Cry game....it was also damn short....
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#5 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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Anybody but Link ...his fairy fanboys cant save him now lolz

Cloud or Squall or Sora...all decent characters and any of the three deserve  the title

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#6 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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I would be dead...life isnt worth living without Final Fantasy LOLZ

I wouldnt really give 2 sh!tz .....I would just play WARCRAFT

and sum FPS games

There are lots of games aside from RPGs just FF happens 2 be one of my favs

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It was all just a debate until he called me a dumbassfs_metal

that was because you failed to see that this is MY view on the character :P not urs, you can saw Cloud is dirty poo, who cares, notice I dont get super defensive when you attack Cloud or Squall or Tidus, or w.e, I can organize an arguement but I dont get like "into it", use a vague facts and keep it to a minor debate level...this thing just escalated 2 much

and FS_Metal....lets pwn FH :P

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[QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"]

Zidanes personality was changing faster than my weapons for him, and he was irratical in the gameplay as he possesed no real personality, he was kinda your I am teh best **** u all kind of personalities as well,

He also had the gayest character design known to mankind

He also made Vaan look normal....Zidane also lacked leadership qualities...being he was autocratic, and he seemed to be more of a childish character...with no serious portion to him....hell Super Mario Characters take the story more serious than Zidane

There are flip tiems when Zidane is emo though, liek his whole battle thing "i am not alone" is playing it the background....ohh hell do I really need to continue?

fs_metal

He had a rock steady personality as a generally nice guy that shows concern for those that he loves and was a bit of a player

Tidus and Squall look much, much gayer than Zidane ever did

Vaan doesn't look as bad as people say he did/

He did not lack leadership qualities. He knew how to take charge, and knew how to get things done. He was the least childish character since FFVI. He was, however, more realistic because he wasn't constantly serious. He could take life seriously, but he could also be laid back and relaxed or joke arround.

Zidane was never emo. He had a strong spirit and a strong will something that characters like Tidus and Cloud lack

Your arguement is stupid, you say he is the least childish and than turn around and say he wasnt constantly serious and was an "out there" kind of character, more realistic...and no offense but his laid back moments were not properly placed...also Zidane was by far the gayest looking, I am sorry how can you justify the gay vest, the tail (ya i know you can justify the tail as part of the story) and the emo look he had on the cover of the bloody game case (backing), I am sorry he looks lke a douche, the crappy graphics in the game actually made him loook better, he wore those dumb ass gloves, like he was gardening or somthing, Zidanes personality is arguably real but than again Squalls, Clouds, Tidus and any other FF character...even Vaan are arguable real aswell, plus Zidane was not your caring individual..hell Tidus was probably one of the most caring..not saying hes great lol, thus also proving that your arguement is BS, you have constantly stated your anti-FFVII, FVIII, FX opinions over and over,,,,you just keep trolling and frankly it should come to an end for the good of the union, because I can just as easily troll FFXI to death...and if you continue so will I

My arguement is not stupid. I based it off of what the game presents as his personality. He is a fantastic and well rounded characters, where as the 2 that came before him weren't

Zidane didn't look gay or emo. I don't even know where you are getting that. It makes no sense

FFIX had the best graphics of the PSX FF games dude

Imagine a thief wearing gloves *rolls eyes*


Cloud had no personality. That isn't real. Squall had no personality. That's not real. Tidus whines too much to be real. You cannot argue about them being real. Vaan, on the other hand, could have an arguement in his favor

Zidane was very caring dude. His biggest concern in his life were his friends. I do not know what game you played, but it was not FFIX

All Tidus cared about was himself and how he had been treated in the past.

I just proved your arguement BS dude, You proved nothing.

I am not anti FFX dude. I liked the game. I liked the story. I liked Yuna, Wakka, Kihmari and Auron. The battle system was kind of fun for a while as well. I liked the sphere grid. It was a good character developement system

go log out of life lolz :P

The game was BS and garbage...the graphics i never argued the level wasnt good, for the PSone but hte type of "kiddy" or "midget" characters is BS

Additionally the majority will agree with me that FFVII is WAY better than FFIX so therefore I have statistical support, unlike you who have nothing (FFVIII on the other hand cannot be weighed aganst FFIX)

Squall had a personality, more than Zidane ever had, he was the loner style of character, you can argue that he wasa stupid character, but to argue that its not realistic is just plain bull****

I played FFIX and hate the game with a passion

AND the gloves r gay dumbass, they look like gardening gloves, almost all the characters in lead roles are wearing gloves...but ohh I am sry, your 2 busy flaming to play any of gthe games thoroughly

...freaking FFIX fanboy

The character design ws better than the generic anime stuff in FFVII and FFVIII.

Statistics prove nothing. Just as an example, millions of people love Nirvana, but if you ask most people with a real appreciation for real talent in the music, Nirvana isn't worth a damn (And I agree with this., Nirvana is not worth a damn). Just because it is the most popular, it does not mean that it is the best. There are many, many reasons to dislike FFVII, and many RPG hardcore gamers do not like it because of any number of the previously mentioned reasons. If I want a good, honest opinion on role playing games, I will not ask a hardcore FFVII fanboy/girl. I will ask an RPG hardcore. Hell, alot of hte FFVII fanbase don't even know what else is out there, so how can said opinion count when one has no knowledge of that one speaks? I believe IX to be better than VII. Many people I know agree with me. The fact that there are millions of fanboys blind to other RPGs that disagree with me does not make me wrong

All Squall ever did was say "whatever" which did not give him any personality. Zidane, on the other hand, was very lively throughout the whole of the story, which gave him personality. Advantage: Zidane

So you went from "Not my favorite" to "I hate it" just because I disagree with you. Pathetic reason dude. FFIX is a great game with a great story and some great characters. IT is everything FF should be

Don't call me a dumbass, dumbass. Why would a thief be picky about what type of gloves he or she wears? It does not matter. Grab some leather gloves or whatever. As long as they serve their purpose

It appears to me that you are the one that has not played the games thoroughly.

I am far removed from a FFIX fanboy

ROFL do you listen to yourself? True just because things are more popular doesnt mean they are any better HOWEVER saying that the fanboys/gitrls are not good RPG gamers (not hardcore w.e) is the same as saying anyone who enjoys FFIX is likely homosexual....their is no proof, nor could it be proved in any way shape or form, plus you constantly critique FFVII, and you state FFIX as the best (or one of the best), you seem to, in your selection of games prefer the more medival (with airships of course :P) style of game, rather than the Sci-fi modern, I in turn like the opposite, the modern style games, and our defence, or hate towards characters seems to reflect the game more than the overall character flaws, however in my opinion Zidane is crap, in your opinion Tidus, Cloud and Squall are crap....personally it doesnt really matter because we are both entitled to our speech...so lets stop the hate and ...lol

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#9 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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Best: Vaan or Squall

Worst: Wakka or Zell

IpodHero176


Wakka's hair looks like a tidal wave or a curvy banana

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Somehow despite claims that the stories/games are unrelated I feel they are going to tie them togetehr somehow in plot and general story flow