There really are people you can't teach...[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]
[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]
Exactly... hence, the shortcut. It's not rocket science, it's the way the label for the genre has evolved.
Besides... I have heard it referred to "thrash heavy metal" when I was overseas in the late '80s, from several people for whom English was their second language. Are you going to try to mock them, too?
OrkHammer007
So you're hiding behind people who can't speak English well? And yeah, the label has been 'evolved' now for about a decade so maybe everyone can finally move on and realize heavy metal most of the time( especially in groups of people who know and listen to metal) refers to bands in the vain of Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Manilla Road, Dio.Anyways goodnight. If you call trash metal "thrash heavy metal" and walk around saying "I listen to heavy metal" while not being able to see a distinction between old school, heavy metal bands, and thrash/death/black/doom metal bands, then this is pointless
Hypothetical situation: I have a pistol. I load bullets into the pistol. You tell me that I have loaded it with ammo. Who is right? We both are, because "bullets" and "ammo" are interchangeable terms for the same thing.In the same vein, "metal" and "heavy metal" are terms for the same genre. That is the way it has been for decades.
Walk into an FYE and go to their "Heavy Metal" section. You will find every possible sub-genre of metal there, not just the old-school stuff.
...or, search for any metal band at FYE's site. I searched Dimmu Borgir (black metal), Iron Maiden (power metal), Pantera (groove metal), and Celtic Frost (doom/black metal), and they all came up labelled "heavy metal."
So... once again, with feeling: "Heavy metal" and "metal" are the same thing. They are NOT different genres, nor is "heavy metal" a sub-genre of "metal" (that would be like "humans" being a sub-species of "humans"). They are two different, interchangeable terms for the same broad genre.
Oh... and it's "thrash," not "trash." Respect the roots.
DUDE GET A F***ING CLUE BRO Iron Maiden power metal? wtf??? Troll status??FYE? Wikipedia? Dictionary.com?
How about sites like Sputnikmusic, Rateyourmusic, encyclopaedia metallum? You know, where people actually discuss music?
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