How can you sleep at a time like this, unless the dreamer is the real you.

Listen to your voice. The one that tells you to taste past the tip of your tongue.

Leap and a net will appear.

I'm sitting here wondering why or how we've gone so far from the main topic. Do you believe that Michael Bay hasn't made a movie before Transformers or Pearl Harbor?

He's f***ed up before guys, I guess you just fail to see it. Michael Bay is a tool. Plan and simple. He has no filmmaking vision, talent, or otherwise reason to even be NEAR a Hollywood budget or 35mm camera.

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"]The Island was pretty good. Also the Transformers movies weren't bad if you don't take them seriously. th3warr1or

For all the right reasons.

[QUOTE="DunderMifflin23"]

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

calm down. Was trying to make a joke about the poster above me. You know trying to have some fun. If you really care about my reasons then here you go.

1. Not everyone is like you some people actually watch movies just for the action. you know like people don't cod4 mw for the storyline. and Like I don't play Halo for the MP.

2. its base on a tv series which is base on toy. don't tell me the transformers where not cheesey in there on way. the shows ok imo it was ok, but not that great. not like something like Batman the Animated Series or Samurai Jack if you ask me.

3. like said before, no one is forcing you to watch it. you could save your money(and MB or GB if you know what I mean) and read the reviews. the reviews save me for spending me AvP.

4.People like s**t being blow up. Like me in general. Like how the Joker in TDK blow up that hospital while wearing a nurse outfit. that was a pure ****c.

5. Bays formula works and it attracted alot of people. Big explosions + sexy cars + robots kicking the ass of each other + meagan fox on that motorcycle = people will watch. Maybe not everyone but still alot.

Ok so the 5th one is kinda stupid buts its also true at the same time when you look at it.

MrJono789

Your reasons are flawed by logic, spelling and grammar.

1. I enjoy action, but having a story to base the action off of is definitely something that everyone needs to remember. I mean look at Uncharted 2! Action packed action game with a character driven story. Great.

2. Do you think whether or not Transformers was big would stop Bay from blowing sh*t up? No?

3. No one is forcing me, yes. But it doesn't stop me from laughing at his failed attempts now does it?

4. The Joker in TDK blew up the hospital for a REASON he had a character driven REASON to blow it up, he was sadistic, crazy, the JOKER! Do you really think it was necessary to blow up the pyramid or some national forrest?

5. Who details a motorcycle while straddling it like a f***ing stripper? Seriously guy? That's your argument? Glad you redacted the last reason. Which, wait, wouldn't that mean that you only have four reasons, which means that you don't have five reasons why you don't care about my five reasons? I think its time for you to pull up your silverware son cause you just got served.

Oh I know it's his opinion, but his opinion is wrong therefore I have to give him the true facts. I'm more inclined to resort to the tough love method of teaching, that's why I seems slightly rude. But it's no reason for you to run at me....with oil rubbed on....

Besides, what's a little argument between forums? Aren't they a place to post your opinions and discuss them, exchange ideas and ultimately learn that Michael Bay is in fact a tool?

[QUOTE="DunderMifflin23"]

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

:P

TheShadowLord07

Michael Jackson is your reason Shadow? See, I think you don't have any reasons and you're just here to start a bit of trouble. If you didn't care why'd you post?

calm down. Was trying to make a joke about the poster above me. You know trying to have some fun. If you really care about my reasons then here you go.

1. Not everyone is like you some people actually watch movies just for the action. you know like people don't cod4 mw for the storyline. and Like I don't play Halo for the MP.

2. its base on a tv series which is base on toy. don't tell me the transformers where not cheesey in there on way. the shows ok imo it was ok, but not that great. not like something like Batman the Animated Series or Samurai Jack if you ask me.

3. like said before, no one is forcing you to watch it. you could save your money(and MB or GB if you know what I mean) and read the reviews. the reviews save me for spending me AvP.

4.People like s**t being blow up. Like me in general. Like how the Joker in TDK blow up that hospital while wearing a nurse outfit. that was a pure ****c.

5. Bays formula works and it attracted alot of people. Big explosions + sexy cars + robots kicking the ass of each other + meagan fox on that motorcycle = people will watch. Maybe not everyone but still alot.

Ok so the 5th one is kinda stupid buts its also true at the same time when you look at it.

Your reasons are flawed by logic, spelling and grammar.

1. I enjoy action, but having a story to base the action off of is definitely something that everyone needs to remember. I mean look at Uncharted 2! Action packed action game with a character driven story. Great.

2. Do you think whether or not Transformers was big would stop Bay from blowing sh*t up? No?

3. No one is forcing me, yes. But it doesn't stop me from laughing at his failed attempts now does it?

4. The Joker in TDK blew up the hospital for a REASON he had a character driven REASON to blow it up, he was sadistic, crazy, the JOKER! Do you really think it was necessary to blow up the pyramid or some national forrest?

5. Who details a motorcycle while straddling it like a f***ing stripper? Seriously guy? That's your argument? Glad you redacted the last reason. Which, wait, wouldn't that mean that you only have four reasons, which means that you don't have five reasons why you don't care about my five reasons? I think its time for you to pull up your silverware son cause you just got served.

Bay sucks. He hasn't quite reached Uwe Boll/Ed Wood levels of suck, but he can't direct worth a damn. He's on the same level as Roland "LOOK AT ALL THE LANDMARKS BLOWING UP" Emmerich.

The_AI

*gives round of applause* :D finally someone sensible. spot on AI, spot on.

1. Break into the nearest medical facility where they store human organs

2. Steal human brain

3. Insert brain into head

4. Use your newly owned brain to develope some common sense

elfimis

sum1 needs to DEVELOP some righting skilz sun.

I think we've lost sight of the true topic at hand here. Michael Bay. Is. A. Tool. Why? No artistic vision for being a so-called "artist".

Now, see the thing is film is an art form, but some people don't see it as such. They see it as a way to make money (*cough* BAY).

"The problem with movies as a business is that it is an art, and the problem with movies as an art is that it's a business. The entertainment industry must realize that we cannot stand for being constantly let down by half-*** directors such as Bay, Smith, or Bloomkamp (D9 guy). What we need are thought provoking, unafraid to take risk directors such as Scorsese, Spielburg, Tarantino, or Nolan.

[QUOTE="elfimis"]

[QUOTE="DunderMifflin23"]

And what might those 5 reasons be?

TheShadowLord07

**grabs popcorn and sits back**:shock:

:P

Michael Jackson is your reason Shadow? See, I think you don't have any reasons and you're just here to start a bit of trouble. If you didn't care why'd you post?

[QUOTE="elfimis"]

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"] Wow he did The Island? I actually liked that film.GrandJury

The Island = Fail.

It actually is a fail film. Honestly what did you like about it? The random predictable action or the random predictable story?