Okay, I just read the GameSpot and IGN review for MGS 4, and I squeezed out a tear and got the chills after I read this at the end of the IGN review, and I never get choked up:

Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a title that exceeds all of the hype that was attached to the title. Regardless of whether you've seen every trailer and screenshot, read every preview and heard every interview, you won't get a full sense of how phenomenal this title is unless you sit down and experience it for yourself. Legends die hard and deserve a heroic story that lives on when they are gone. Metal Gear Solid 4 is such an ending for the legendary warrior Solid Snake. Not only does it sum up the full franchise of Metal Gear, its depth and its complexity, coupled with its technical prowess, make it one of the best games of the year and, indeed, one of the best games ever made. Get some well earned rest, Snake. You've earned it. We salute you. *tear runs down cheek*

This is the greatest videogame, no gamie (game-movie), ever made on every level, and it just has to make it to the Xbox 360. In short, Solid Snake suffers from cellular regeneration and accelerated aging. This is Snake's final mission and the game ties up all the loose ends of the ENTIRE franchise. For that reason alone, this game must be included in the HD collection.

You see, after MGS 4 Old Snake has an estimated year at best to live due to the FOXDIE virus inside him. However, his incredible will gives him the strength to live the rest of his days in peace and see the world he helped create. I've been crying all morning after I heard the news. Hideo added this so he could pull the plug on Snake at any time. He wants to work on other projects nowand doesn't want anybody else telling Snake's story. That's why even though Snake is only 42 and should fight into his early 50s, he was injected with the FOXDIE virus: so Hideo could trigger it any time and kill Snake. I've lost all respect for Hideo. Metal Gear Solid was one of few game franchises I enjoyed, and now Hideo is cheating all of his fans and cutting Snake short just so he can go work on side projects and leave his life behind. The controls have been put in a man's hands named Shigenobu Matsuyama and MGS's new main character is Raiden and it'll be nothing more than a Ninja Gaiden wanna-be.

Are we allowed to buy, sell, or trade games here?

Also, unless were getting the Sustance and Subsistance ports in the HD collection, it's still not complete, as we don't have MG1 and MG2. Not to mention no MG1 (NES version) and Snakes Revenge (not a canonical game). Not to mention Ac!d 1 and 2, and portable ops and portable op +. Also there was a non canonical game on GBC (can't remember what it was called). And no MGS1 or Twin Snakes, so not complete collection no matter how you look at it.FPSDad1161

I know there's many more MGS games than four; I was trying to sound realistic. ;)

ShadowMoses900

It'd require a disc or two. Add a ton of bonus content to make it worth the wait, and I'm buying.

Mozelleple112

Actually, the seventh console generation won't be ending for Microsoft until 2015 or later. I don't follow Sony, so I can't say.

@ elpooz

What makes Raiden girly looking is his long white hair and ninja-knight costume.

Hideo should've expanded Snake's story.

Yes, gamers could purchase many used titles for $120, but point being it's a great deal for the complete collection and easily allows fans to get up to speed on a single console - with HD visuals.

Sony's MGS 4 exclusivity is weakening with time. I believe GotP will be released for the Xbox 360 within a couple years.

I equally value my game collection. However, I take great pride in maintaining that completely mint collection of hardware and software.

I already put it in Kojima Production's suggestion box. Please do the same. Google the address and click the Contact Us link.

My first Metal Gear game was "Metal Gear Solid" for the Playstation in 1998. I remember taking control of Snake and sneaking around enemy compounds while knocking out countless guards along the way. That IS Metal Gear. It's been a long time since then, but then I learned Sons of Liberty was released for the Xbox. This made me excited and gave me an old, fun feeling until...I was controlling a girly ninja man named Raiden. I looked all around for a "chose your character" option for Snake. There wasn't one. I just wanted to turn off my Xbox and return the game, but I went with it. Then about half way, I was given control of Snake and felt a little better, but I wanted Snake from the start. Metal Gear lives and dies by Snake, and without him, it's just not Metal Gear.

The HD collection is coming soon to the Xbox 360 and will include Sons of Liberty, Snake Eater (cool title), and Peace Walker. Problem is I already played Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriots is missing. This is another great game franchise now being mismanaged and missing opportunity. Really, the wise move would be to remaster every Metal Gear game in HD on a multi-disc set and charge $120. That's a small price to pay for all that content. I don't want a piece of the story; I want the whole story.

Rising is in development and I was excited for another intense story-cinematic-sneaking game from the mind of Hideo. But then I read, ugh, Raiden will be the game's main character and the focal point ninja sword slashing and collecting cyborg metal parts, and I stopped reading. If Rising is the disappointment I strongly feel it will be, my last Metal Gear game will be the HD collection until the franchise returns to its sneaky-Snake roots.

Do you also dislike Raiden and want Guns of the Patriots on the Xbox 360?

Perhaps there is an old Official Xbox Magazine disc that included the DLC that you're looking for? I know Sony would release maps for SOCOM 2 on Official Playstation Magazine demo discs so maybe Microsoft did something similar.AcidSoldner