Again... this movie never stated that Thor was born from a virgin... it stated that he had other similar traits as jesus. that is all. you have misused the information to back up your religious delusion. which is misleading and deceitful... both of which are evil traits. Number 9. You shall not commit perjury. Congrats... this is what you are doing. Also, Atheism is not a religion, it is not an organized belief system. they just do not believe in Gods. they are free to believe in anything eles. I wish i was an Atheist, but im not fully there yet... so your OTHER assumption is wrong. I am Agnostic out of habbit since i use to be a christian for over 25 years. not a Fundamentalist christian tho... since that is just really messed up. It was actually my introduction to fundamentalism that made me reserch jesus which lead to my letting go of the whole thing. All one has to do is watch a bunch of fundamentalists speak in tongues to reassure you that this religion thing is NUTS
[how can you say that Jesus walking on water is a delusion when you go and say that life just spantaneously formed?
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when did i ever say that??? look everyone a religious person putting words in my mouth... isnt that on your Ten Commandments not to do such an evil thing??? -What good is tossing out your Reason and Logic for an Invisible God who you dont even listen or obey- Also, Thor DOES share common traits... virgin birth is correctly not one of them tho... that in no way should discredit all the other traits however... These are the classic Hero Traits of folklore The movie NEVER claimed that Thor was born of a virgin, YOU DID (A religiuos lie to comfort your delusions) they said, myths that shared common traits. yes i fell for the religious trap, but you mislead me and others.. shame on YOU.
---Now, lets cut through all this religious cheese & baloney.--- -First of all i call 'Red Herring' on the religious person who brought up Thor... Thor is not mentioned in this movie. *Just another example of religious lies to mislead. -2nd, Zeus is GOD, just like Yahweh. when they say dionysis's dad was Zeus, that means GOD. Dionysis was the son of god born to walk the earth... just like Jesus. Dionysis is athe Greek god of Wine... this goes for the other gods too. there big daddy in the sky had a name, just like jesus's big daddy. Its your own Ignorance your battling with here. now, these jesus like stories have been known for thousand of years. its a historical fact these MYTHS existed before jesus. this movie, very fairly, lays out the only evidence for jesus's existence. all of which are ether extremely vague or forged and proven to be. If you surround yourself with people who believe in messed up ideas, then youll have no problem believing in Mohammed flying to heaven on a horse, Mormons believing that Native Americans are the devils children or jesus doing ballet over water. its a delusion. just because you want to believe in something soo much does not make it true. and just because billions of muslims believe Mohammed talked to an angel in a cave does not mean its true. think.
You know that this movie is straight BS when it says that a mythological god from 3000 BC was crucified.
THE ROMANS INVENTED CRUCIFIXION!!!!!
EDIT: the movie claims to say that there is no evidence of jesus. Well, that too is straight up BS. Jesus was recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, who by the way were in fact real people
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some cultures nailed people to trees... thats where the romans got the idea from. when they say those Egyptian gods where crucified, thats what they mean. most of them were nailed to a tree.
Evolving Jesus, why is it that every single topic you make attacks Religion (Christianity in particular) in some way, no matter how subtle?
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well, i never made the movie (i wish i did) but the whole movie is NOT about religion... how about skip the religion part and move on to the rest of the movie... if you believe in invisible sky daddies who hear your thoughts, thats fine... just dont expect me to think thats normal or ok.
[QUOTE="Choga"]This video lost ALL credibility when they said Thor was born of a virgin.michael582
was he? for me it lost credibility when it said jesus never existed because we know that to be historical fact
oh, and remember, Horus wasn't born of a virgin, he was the son of osiris. I've done some research and found nothing about about being born on December 25th, or 12 disciples. correct me if Im wrong
Also, the bible says nothing about jesus being born on december 25th
very true, jesus was not born on dec 25th.
Exactly, now from there... you will start to notice that all these stories of jesus were just robbed from other gods. why dont we know when Jesus was born??? the bible gives the EXACT AGE of everyone from moses to adam.... but jesus... we dont know... why is everything so vague??? cuz he NEVER LIVED. there is no evidence for his whole life. if you can find some... let me know... this is the whole reason i lost my faith... the only evidence there is, is what they read from the bible... but thats Circular Logic. America needs to wake up from this religious nightmare. invisible god, who had a baby boy on earth... who used his god powers to... turn water to wine... please... its ridicules... Jesus was a nice gnostic myth based on other old myths that was highjacked by organized religion to control the masses. the philosophy is great, but the idea of him being a god is just dangerous and divisive.
it's called faith,God wants you to have faith even if you have never seen him
Its called gullibility. the religions want you to believe with out evidence so you can make them rich and spread the Mind Virus. Research your religion.
[QUOTE="killtactics"]how on earth can the government decide to pull of 9/11 and have SO many suspect nothing?killtactics
Oh come on, people would suspect something if something for them to suspect was shown to them. You will find a lot more people outside the USA "suspecting" something. I mean (just using one example of the event) you dont find it "suspicious that almost everything got vapourised but THE "TERRORISTS" PASSPORT was found in that huge pile of rubble in one piece?
if someone put bombs in there then how did no one notice? how did the goverment keep this secret even within it's self? it just seem like Bush can't pull something like this off...
Imo Bush can't really pull anything off by himself. Honestly though, even if you diss some of the things shown like the bombs there is still a lot of stuff that happened that day that seem suspicious if you actualy see it. Thats all I was trying to point out in response to your post, I'm not trying to convince you that 9/11 was set up.
i agree that somethings ARE very strange about this... but i really dont see Bush as the kinda guy that would do something so evil... i mean if we look back he was just some average rich kid... how could he be so evil.... As opposed to Hitler which is a classic case of "bad childhood"... bush is the puppet... dick is the real ring leader... good night guys,
[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]I could consider the Astrological connections made in this movie to be supporting evidence, not disproof. Im a bit on the fence.killtactics
i still dont get why they made so many connections to begin with? i mean if they wanted to make up a religion.... just make it up..... why bother putting little hints here and there that point to astrology.... and since they are so open to interpertaion, who would have figured it out??? all this just adds up to.... why on earth would they bother? if god is real, why hide from us??? why write all these books??? why be invisible??? why have a son and kill him on earth for sins GOD himself Made??? It just does NOT make any sense at all. all you have to do is think. its ALL man made... why would god care if she is a Virgin?
I could consider the Astrological connections made in this movie to be supporting evidence, not disproof. Im a bit on the fence.KrayzieJ
whats funny, is that i knew about the 3 kings,eastern star and the cross... but i always thought they were named AFTER jesus... boy was i wrong. what we dont realize anymore is how much people back then looked to the stars... our Big cities have so much light polution that it distorts how amazing the night sky really is. if you want to really feel the universe... go far far away from all the lights from the city and lay under the stars... it is amazing... you can understand why they would think god is in the sky.
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