"Yourselves"? Are you saying I'm a cow? I'd expect as such being in system wars but honestly I couldn't give a shit what platform a game is on, I just find review criteria for games interesting in cases such as these.

How would you score games like Gone Home, Dear Esther etc?

@Minishdriveby

I agree, the story was not incredible though I thought it was interesting, and the presentation above all else was impeccable which lends itself to immersion. The movie Gravity in comparison is much the same, and was well received by most, though the ending of The Order is one left much to be desired and ultimately where it falls short. I'm just stating that a 6/10 for this seems inconsistent considering the success of "games" that do a lot less.

Hardly, considering Gone Home got a 9.5 here, where was the "game" in that?

The Order is difficult to review due to its grey area of where it lies, it primarily aims at giving a cinematic storytelling experience, such the same with games like Dear Esther etc, yet it also has traditional cover shooter gameplay mechanics that also make it appealing to regular gamers.

The odd thing is in this scenario is that if RAD decided to go full tilt with the cinematic storytelling ala Dear Esther, it would most likely have scored higher by simply cutting out the action sequences, there would be no mistaking the game for what it is trying to be. So by adding more to the game they inadvertently increased people's expectations beyond what the game was intended to be, which led to its poor reviews.

There was several parts of The Order that I felt it could massively improve on myself but I would still give it a solid 7.5, it's not a bad game but it falls just short of being a great one.

The game is just bullshit.

Think of Minecraft but without the crafting.

It just doesn't look exciting, there's nothing that makes me think that I'd even care doing what I saw in the trailer regardless of the fact the trailer was really a predetermined series of events that was set in perfect conditions that made the game look its best, and it still looked like it could wear off after an hour or so.

The one thing they have to do to make this game have any longevity is to put on some base building mode, something like what is in Medieval Engineers, as then you'd have clans owning planets and star systems building huge cities etc. They could make a trading post for materials needed to build certain structures or colours of the constructions and then you'd get a good economy that encourages people to explore. At the moment it looks like anything you do will get old fast, so unless something is implemented that allows people to have a sense of progression and ownership other than a better ship I don't think people will stick around long on the game before finding the next novel thing.

Don't Starve's. RoG added tons more to the game and Don't Starve Together will make it something else entirely.

TBF Kotaku only played the early part of the game, a game that looks to be taking heavy influence from WoW and turning the experience into an FPS. So with that in mind, imagine judging WoW on just the early quests, yes it would be thought of as boring if you were stuck in the world with no one else you actually know, and left to do the introductory quests. The game will get much more in depth and intense the further you progress, you'd be a fool to think Bungie would be content with enemies that pose no challenge to be the main experience, it will get as tough as the player wants it to get.

Also, Bungie are not stupid, Guild Wars 2 was a let down because it gave you practically the end game experience within the first 10-20 levels so everything there out felt largely the same. So to judge Destiny on content that is designed for players who have no idea what they're doing is unfair. Let's wait to see what content is available later on, which Bungie plan on unveiling soon.

My interpretation of this recent unveiling was Bungie demonstrating more of the way the world works and looks, with emphases being on the social and graphical aspects and saving the details of game content until later. We've not seen PvP, raids, etc, there's still loads of important gameplay aspects to be seen and the game's already being judged? Be patient.

The cloud is 32 Xbox 360's.

In my opinion, absolutely, and here's why....

Casuals love new experiences, the Wii was a success not because of it's graphics or its titles, but the fact that it was a new gaming experience which catered to more than an hardcore gamer. The Oculus Rift does the same thing for casuals, look at any Oculus Rift youtube video and you will see people of all ages, male and female soaking this stuff up and loving it, and that's with a low resolution development kit. When the Rift is released it will receive a LOT of buzz, everyone will want to get their hands on one and the easiest option for most people would be to get a device that enables them to use the Rift without much knowledge and is user friendly (the appeal of consoles in the first place), hello Steam Box.

Not that the Oculus Rift caters only to casuals, hardcore gamers will love it to (I can't wait for Star Citizen), so there's definitely incentive for those who buy consoles to want a similar console experience in their living room, with the added bonus of being able to stick a VR headset on and go for complete immersion when you're playing games by yourself.

Come 4 years in the future the current generation of consoles will seem completely outdated, not just technology wise but experience also, and there's no way that the current generation of consoles will be able to match what the Oculus Rift experience will bring aside from Sony's own attempt but we have no real detail on that yet, but let's be honest, the PC has too many advantages and just a couple of years from now the increased power of the PC will make these consoles look obsolete in comparison, the mid ranged Steam Box matches console power now and is going to be around the same price so in a couple of years you'll have a far better machine for the same price mark.

Personally, I think this generation of consoles will be the last, the advancements in technology are far too great and soon enough this current technology will seem outdated. If you are familiar with Moore's Law, the co-founder of intel who once stated "The density of transistors on silicon will double approximately every 18 months", well now it's down to 8-12 months, this means that by the time hardware choices are finalised and dev kits are produced and sent out to the time when a console is released computing power has already doubled, sure developers are able to optimise and will continue to make the games look and perform better, but there's a certain point in which there's going to be diminishing returns 4-5 years from now the raw power of a PC alone will stomp anything a PS4 and Xbox One is capable of regardless of optimisation. Unless consoles in the future have the ability to be upgraded then it's almost a certainty that a PC/Console hybrid like the Steam Box will replace them.

That's my take on it anyway.

Gonna be a great game, can't wait to get my hands on it.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

yet you dismissed the multiplayer as being t3h suck prematurely :P

shoeonhead82

Multiplayer is the bulk of what I have been playing... so far I clocked maybe 12 hours into it. That's enough for me to figure quite a bit out.

Yet you are still a grade 1 in that screenshot?