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#1 FuguNabe
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On a recent topic, some individuals are claiming that if you stop at Final Fantasy XII, that is refuse to play any FFs afterwards, then you are not a real fan. I believe that this is by far one of the stupidest comments I have ever read in my life. Look, I'm 20 years old now, a little old for videogames and all, and in my day I have defeated countless videogames, the majority being RPGs. As far as FF goes, I've defeated FFs I - X and in the process mastered, that is basically complete the game 100%, all of them. How many of you can claim that you still own the golden cartrige of the original Final Fantasy, a working copy of it and a working NES. I can, and it wasn't too long ago since I played the game last. But thats not the point, bragging rights aside I believe that everyone that's on this board claiming they are a true fan has probably defeated FFs I - X and have probably defeated X-2, XI, Crystal Chronicles and maybe (if you can read Japanese) FFXII.

The point is this, and I've stated it several times: SQUARE IS RIPPING OFF ITS FANS! I'm not the only one that has been spreading this message on this Union. I love FF, I really do, but why would I pay a massive amount of money to play Crystal Chronicles multiplayer when I could just play Champions: Return to Arm? In fact, Champions was the better game! Why would I pay massive amounts of online fees to play FFXI when I could just plug in any other FF and have just as much fun? Why the heck should I have to buy two games to get the most of a final fantasy experience like FFX and X-2. Any other FF is completed in one game, one QUALITY experience, whereas both X and X-2 (especially X-2) seemed to be weaker efforts from Square? Now the kicker, and I know this is pissing a lot of FF fans off: WHY SHOULD I BUY THREE GAMES, ON DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, TO COMPLETE MY FFXIII EXPERIENCE? In fact, why the heck is Square even making three games if we, the actual fans of the series, haven't even approved any of the games yet?

I'll tell you why, because Square realizes that it has an army of gamers who are just dying to play the next FF game no matter how expensive it is. Have any of you become sick already of all the FFVII bull thats running rampant in the RPG world lately? How many spawns do we need from that game? FF7:AC, FF7:DOC, FF7:CC, all of the Kingdom Hearts references, a possible remake.....come on! Its all about the cash when it comes to Square lately and calling yourself a true fan just because you're stupid enough to pay massive amounts of money to play anything Square releases with the tag "Final Fantasy" on it is ridiculous. Then you look at the price tag of the PS3, and well, personally for a student in business school on a very tight budget I'm not willing to shell out that type of cash to play a game that may not even be a complete experience cause the rest of it may be concluded on the mobile version! Don't put it past Square to do it either!

Final Fantasy XII, from the way things have been going with Square lately, may just be the last time a gamer can pick up a brand new FF and play THAT GAME AND THAT GAME ALONE to truly experience Square's latest masterpiece. No sequels, no movies, no expensive extras, NONE OF THAT!

So to close, I'll leave you all with this: If I am not a true FF fan for defeating all the "true" games in the series and pretty much memorizing their storylines and falling in love with their characters, buying their action figures, buying merchandise such as posters and clothing and devoting thousands, SEVERAL THOUSANDS, of hours playing each game, then I am sad to say that I guess I will never be a true fan of Final Fantasy. If having to pay every extra cent I have and willing taking slaps in the face from Square is the only way to become a "true fan", then count me out! Personally, I have other great RPGs I can play that won't cost me a fortune, or force me to buy the most expensive platform being released in the next generation of gaming, I certainly do not have to play FFXIII when I have Shadow Hearts: From the New World, Star Ocean Till the End of Time, Grandia III etc.....so with that, I am officially declaring, in complete disgust with Square and its business practices lately, the Final Fantasy XII will also be my last FF ever! Thank you all.

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In many ways I agree. I've been a fan of DQ and FF since Nintendo Famicom days and have played and completed (twice) recently FFXII. I've loved every experience from each FF games up to this point (with the exception of FFII, FFX-2, and FFTA I loved them all). The only one I didn't complete is FFXI (got no time for MMORPG due so many great single-player RPGs released all the time here where I am here in Japan). Anyhow I'm really not impressed with the next batch of FF offering. Though I'll have all three next-gen sytems FFXIII and the other games in the Nova Fabula whatever series don't impress me (perhaps due to the uninspired Nomura input which I'm getting sick of). God if only they would bring back Amano... Well one can only wish. Anyhow even the FFCC one coming on the Wii with it's nostalgic art direction is barely capturing my interest. Does that mean I'm no longer a FF fan? NO. Thing is I just feel that the most recent projects are rather uninspired and feel like they are just releasing FF titles just for the sake of milkage (worst example is the milkage of FFVII compilation which IMO is really watering down the name of a good FF installment). Hey it's just my opinion so don't flame me. Chances are I will probably purchae them to give it a run through. It might even turn out good who knows. You may find it weird to read this response from a JRPG nut living in Japan like myself but the thing is I'm not as excited about the next batch of FF games that's all. Fact is I'm anticipating those Sakaguchi Mistwalker's titles more. Heck I'm even more excited for Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria, and Persona 3 for the PS2 more.
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#2 FuguNabe
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Hmm I'm greedy like that so first 12 games I'ma download are... LOZ: OOT, SMB3, SMB World, Chrono Trigger, LOZ: LTTP, SMB64, F-Zero X, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Ganbare Goemon: Neo Momoyama Bakufu No Odori, Star Fox 64, Super Mario Kart, Super Metroid.... And Golden Eye too if Rare allows it for VC.
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#3 FuguNabe
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Just curious when you guys say you have all of them is that includins FF mystic quest?ff-leader
Yes I have that too though it was called 'FF USA: Mystic Quest' here in Japan and was released after the US version. I have all the FF games since they first appeared on Nintendo's Famicom. That includes Tactics, the crappy Tactics Advance. Yes I have all the FFXI expansions too. Even Crystal Chronicle. I also have the original FFIII on the Famicom in full Japanese glory. Th only ones I don't have are the Anthology and Origins since they haven't changed the games on these compilations. I even have FFXII and have completed it twice since it came out here in Japan.
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#4 FuguNabe
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So many from day since before Squaresoft and Enix merged to now... Xenogears, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, DQIII (SF Remake), DQIV (PS Remake), DQV (PS2 remake), DQVI, Robotrek, Bushido Blade, Seiken Densetsu 2&3, Super Mario RPG, Brave Fencer Musashiden, KH 1&2, Star Ocean 1-3, Parasite Eve 1&2.... All these comes to mind and are all excellent titles.
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All of them...
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#6 FuguNabe
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I would probably want a sequel to Chrono series more than even FFXIII...
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#7 FuguNabe
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Old now and it's fake. April fools... to play on those that loved FFVIII (a favourite here in Japan).
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#8 FuguNabe
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At this moment it's Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria (PS2) the most followed by DQ Swords (Wii), FFIII (DS) and Seiken Densetsu 4 (PS2)... then FFXIII (PS3)
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#9 FuguNabe
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No competition. FFXII easy. I don't think I need to explain...
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#10 FuguNabe
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Hmmm this is a FF union so I will not be surprise to see most if not all FF fanboys vote for DFFXIII... However I give Mistwalker the benefit of the doubt as Sakaguchi has created some marvelous RPGs including some of the best of the FF series. I love S-E but perhaps it may be due to that I'm getting all three next-gen systems that prevents me from being bias. Heck I'm excited with both Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey more than FFXIII. I feel Mistwalker may do for X360 what S-E has been for Sony (and once upon a time Nintendo). Blue Dragon may capture the same magic as classics like Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross with Sakaguchi and Toriyama working together. Lost Odyssey look very exciting indeed. Lost Odyssey looks already different from typical JRPG already IMO with it's artstyle and the story by a famous novelist sounds excellent. What's shown so far looks nothing short of epic. With Sakaguchi at the help I have high hopes and am really looking forward to how this game will turn out. The game engine they are woring with is also extremely powerful so visually I'm sure will look nothing short of jawdropping. Whether it will look better than FFXIII's White engine that's something that I will say can't really be compared since the art direction seems to be slighly different. Frankly I'm bored of Nomura's character design already. They have a certain charm but he lacks diversity and concept. Frankly I prefer Amano over Nomura and did hoped for Amano's input into FFXIII. Alas it was not to be. The main character in FFXIII so far looks like Nomura simply crossing Yuna and Rikku to make the character then added a Squall-like transforming gunblade weapon for nostalgia. Seriously that to me is very uninspired. As for those fodder soldiers in the trailer, they look like armoured monk guards in FFX in more higher tech armour. Very uninspired IMO. Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to FFXIII but it doesn't seem to have wowed me the same as say FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, and FFX when they came out for their respective system. I was even more hyped for FFXII than FFXIII honestly due to Matsuda's involvement (I have the game already and it didn't dissappoint me). Well these are probably the main reason why I'm more interested in Lost Odyssey. A minor reason may be because I sometimes like to give the benefit of the doubt to underdogs which in this case is Mistwalker. They have alot more to prove.