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#1 GeneralButt
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[QUOTE="GeneralButt"]

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

About time. It was bound to happen sooner or later. I can see this as the norm during next gen.

Mograine

For online only games, maybe, but for single player games i highly doubt it. On consoles a LOT of sales comes from causal gamers (points to the Wii) How many causals are going to have their consoles hooked up to the internet? My guess is, not many.

It's the opposite, actually - games that focus on MP a lot are bound to be hurt less by piracy, as you need to have an original copy to play online, while single player games don't and therefore allow pirates to do what they do freely.

People will whine in the beginning, but will adapt as more and more do this, especially if the hardware manufacturers support this with their own resources.

I meant games that are exclusive to Xbox Live, PSN and Wii online. If you download them, then it shows you have an internet connection on said console so there's very little reason why you can't be connected while playing (As annoying as it is). That's why I think the online only only games have a strong chance of going that way.

Single player games? doubtful. Look at the chart that showed the % of consoles connected to the internet (not sure where it is now, but I saw it in a thread here a few days ago) About 50% of Wiis weren't connected and about 25% of PS3s and 360 also weren't connected, that's about 50 million people that devs won't be able to sell there game to right there.

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#2 GeneralButt
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[QUOTE="GeneralButt"]

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

About time. It was bound to happen sooner or later. I can see this as the norm during next gen.

Espada12

For online only games, maybe, but for single player games i highly doubt it. On consoles a LOT of sales comes from causal gamers (points to the Wii) How many causals are going to have their consoles hooked up to the internet? My guess is, not many.

Err there is no point to putting DRM on online only games, the fact it is online only IS DRM without actually being DRM. DRM is more likely to show up in SP games..

Sorry, for online only games i was referring to games that can only be gotten with an internet connection from PSN, Live etc. I should have worded that better, my bad. :P

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#3 GeneralButt
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About time. It was bound to happen sooner or later. I can see this as the norm during next gen.

Mograine

For online only games, maybe, but for single player games i highly doubt it. On consoles a LOT of sales comes from causal gamers (points to the Wii) How many causals are going to have their consoles hooked up to the internet? My guess is, not many.

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#4 GeneralButt
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Pretty sure GT5 prologue has this aswell and Burnout Paradise.

razgriz_101

I could have sworn I've played burnout offline. I think you're just confusing it because the switch from offline to online mode doesn't require you to quit your game....its a smooth transition.....

I don't know much about prologue since I've never played it, but I highly doubt its an online only game.

im talking bout the dl version of it not being sharable showing that a similar scheme is actually already in place in games on PSN.

Both those games are shareable. I bought burnout on my phat PS3 and i can play it on my slim with a totally different PSN name, hell both burnouts can even play online together. :?

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#5 GeneralButt
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I don't see why they didn't just tie this to your PSN name, I'd have no problem with that but an always on internet connection is pure fail. My internet connection is actually pretty good but it does drop connection from time to time (though it is pretty rare). So if i was in the middle of a game and the connection drops I'd get kicked from the game and lose all my progress? Screw that.

Any game that comes out with this flawed DRM, I'm just going to flat out refuse to buy.

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#6 GeneralButt
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Thanks a lot guys, much appreciated. :)

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#7 GeneralButt
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I'm going to start ordering in parts for my new rig and was wondering what PSU i shout get. I'll be running a core i7 and probably 2 GTX 480s for SLI. I was thinking about getting this PSU but I'm not sure if it has enough power (or if it has all the connectors i need, I'm a noob at PC building :P )

So what do you recommend I should get?

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#8 GeneralButt
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[QUOTE="GeneralButt"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The 360 version will top a million sales. You think Square won't be delighted? A million is nothing to scoff at. If SONY could have kept it exclusive they would have.

MS have far more power when it comes to writing cheques ...

-Snooze-

The 360 version MIGHT top 1 million lifetime, but then again the PS3 version has a good chance of hitting 6-7 million lifetime so Sony could buy the exclusive rights to the next game pretty easily. And with no 360 port to worry about, Square would also benefit from having more resources to put towards speeding up the development of the PS3 version (the real money maker) along with some $$$ from Sony. It's win win for Square and Sony.

Also your "MS writing cheques" part is laughable. MS didn't make all it's money by writing out cheques for things they are not going to get a return on....

You overestimate the PS3 numbers and underestimate the xbox numbers ... The 360 version is probsbly already close to a million, if not passed it.

You brought the whole "writing cheques" argument up dude. You assume SONY has more buying power then MS, and yet who losts the most support this gen?

The 360 has close to 23 million 360s in the US and FFXIII only sold 493,900 and you think WW it's "close to a million, if not passed it" ?? There's only about 14 million or so 360 in all other territories (minus Japan) I'd say it's still a long way away from the 1 million mark.

And "writing cheques argument" was not an argument, it was just an observation. If MW2 only sold 1 million or a little bit more than that on the PS3 compared to 6-7 million on the 360, wouldn't you say MS would be in a prime position to pick up MW3 as a 360 exclusive?? If you say "yes" you're a hypocrite because that's what I've been saying about the next FF game.

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#9 GeneralButt
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[QUOTE="GeneralButt"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol yeah keep telling your self that. but then again all we have now are american numbers, and Jpn numbers we don't have canada, south america, europe, australia...ect I'd think you'd be worried that since it shows its gonna sell well enough that Square has EVERY reason to release vs's on the 360 as well.WilliamRLBaker

If the 360 version of FFXIII got outsold by nearly double in the US despite having double the install base, what makes you think it fared better in Canada, Australia and Europe where the install bases are a lot more even? Also, this has set Sony up for future FF exclusive games. FF is a pretty big franchise and all Sony would have to do to keep the next installments exclusive is to write a check, and giving how the 360 version sold, it doesn't necessarily have to be that big.

it wouldn't have to be that big. any sales that are extra are a sign that it was a good move to put it on the 360 and there have been extra sales, we'd have seen extra sales even in jpn if they had released it there. SINCE it wasn't released in jpn we don't even look at those sales since there is no hope for comparison in a comparison to comparison the 360 version has sold very very well considering its the first Final Fantasy main franchise on a system other then a Sony system in a long long time.

Of course it can be compared, when crunch time come devs look at WW sales not the sales of one region and in that respect the 360 version got CRUSHED in units sold, and please don't play the " well if it had have been released in Japan......" card because there is an obvious reason why it wasn't released there in the first place...... :|

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#10 GeneralButt
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[QUOTE="GeneralButt"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The 360 sold over half as much as the PS3 version dude. if that;s small enoughf or SONY to just write a check, then the total reenue isn't much at all ...

Also, MS can write cheques too ... larger cheques.

-Snooze-

It's probably close to 3 million in Japan + nearly 1 million in the US vs 500k for 360.... yeah. Also, i willing to bet the 360 version got heavily outsold in Canada, Australia and Europe as well.

The 360 version will top a million sales. You think Square won't be delighted? A million is nothing to scoff at. If SONY could have kept it exclusive they would have.

MS have far more power when it comes to writing cheques ...

The 360 version MIGHT top 1 million lifetime, but then again the PS3 version has a good chance of hitting 6-7 million lifetime so Sony could buy the exclusive rights to the next game pretty easily. And with no 360 port to worry about, Square would also benefit from having more resources to put towards speeding up the development of the PS3 version (the real money maker) along with some $$$ from Sony. It's win win for Square and Sony.

Also your "MS writing cheques" part is laughable. MS didn't make all it's money by writing out cheques for things they are not going to get a return on....