1) GT5 delayed? There was no concrete release date anyways until TGS, so no, it wasnt delayed

2) GT is an established franchise withover 5games, hence why not every one will get AAA. Payable demoes like GT5:P will never get AAA as it would never make sense.

3) Forza isnt a AAA franchise according to gamerankings.com (http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/932731-forza-motorsport-2/index.html) and dont give me the "Gamespot reviews only count" because thats just 1 mans oppinion. Gamerankings holds more value compared to a singular site. FACT

4) Forza 3 will be amazing, but the thing that will always make Forza suck is its graphics. Games like Need for Speed shift are better looking than Forza 3, and if it wants to compete with GT5, it needs to step up its graphics level severly.

Disturbed123

Hey guess what I can do that also. :lol:Go look up GT4 on the same site Forza is higher. LOL

GT has not seen AAA since 2001. Forza is AAA all day long breakfest lunch and dinner. And with GT PSP coming in at a bad 6-7 review range this is not good efforts by PD for sure.

Early reviews of Forza3 are coming in at high AAA again. :shock: Man no wonder Sony and PD delayed GT again. They are rattled bigtime by Turn 10.

[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

Listen calling MW games a FPS for NOOBS is a complete crock of ****. It is a FPS game just because you might not like it you still aim your weapon and shoot just like all the prior FPS games before it have since the dawn of the creation of FPS games. You dont aim the aim assist does that for you :P. So being rewarded for perking up is bad and you should not get upgrades that=practice in real world terms.

So i guess DOOM is a FPS for NOOBS? Or Half Life. Or oh wait Unreal Tournament? I mean come on. half life is a single player game where the guns actually have recoil and doom is very old So becuase Doom is old it should not count:roll:

Stop hating just because MW is the best selling FPS game and that MW2 is going to blow all other FPS games sales and all game sales out of the water. Why because it is the best FPS game there is. Must be I mean close to 20 million who buy MW2 must think so. sales =/= quality So we have 20 million people who just like to piss money away:roll:

So are we saying we have 20 million NOOB casual FPS gamers out there now. I DO NOT ******* THINK SO. actually the majority of fps gamers are casuals so then PC gamers are moslty casuals being PC invented FPS:roll:

Face it MW is a BAD ASS ******* FPS game that mega millions also think so. sales =/= quality In this economy it seems in your logic we all just like to piss money away:roll:

toast_burner

They call it a FPS for noobs because it is possibly the most noob friendly game ever made. The game has ridicules amounts of aim assist. This is the only game were I usaully dont aim for the head because people die so quick its pointless. There is no skill gap at all you take a good player in halo or resistance vs a average player the average player will never win a gun fight. In CoD anybody can kill any one because the game practicly aims for you and you die in only a few shots. Not to mention my favriote aspects the game rewards death. Just got a helicopter? Kill yourself then call it to get a headstart on your next kill streak. One of the biggest reasons people like this game is becuase any noob can jump in and own.

_Judge_Gabranth

I stopped right when you said dies in only a few shots. LOL yeah becuase we all know in real life we could take way more then a few shots and live. LOL

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Play some ArmA II and tell me again that CoD4 isn't for noobs. Its a very straight forward run-n-gun FPS. It rewards spraying with kills. There is nothing difficult, skillful or realistic about it.

-RPGamer-

I don't think realism is a factor for something being "for n00bs". And to be honest difficulty and required skill in any MP is directly correlated to the skill of those you play against.

Yes there are plenty of MP gamnes that are considered easy but you will still get owned by someone who is hardcore and plays more then you. So does that make it a noob game? NO!!!

COD4 is not for noobs... MW2 is. Death streaks with stupid perks; copying weapons, extra health. Doesn't get much noobier... however the great players will still keep on pwning.Next-Gen-Tec

So we should hate becuase they are letting some Noobs who try the game have a chance becuase they are getting owned by vetren hardcore gamers. I see no problem with this.

Play some ArmA II and tell me again that CoD4 isn't for noobs. Its a very straight forward run-n-gun FPS. It rewards spraying with kills. There is nothing difficult, skillful or realistic about it.

foxhound_fox

Not really true. You have Tactical FPS games and you have run and gun FPS game just becuase it's a run and gun does not make it NOOB?

Its pretty noobish. But still fun.bronxxbombers

Not really why becuase you can camp and have perks and such. All FPS gamers camp and look Counter Strike is regarded as the non noob best PC FPS and you get perks in that.

Let's just make it official.

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Forza Motorsport 3 is a realistic racing simulator on the Xbox 360, the sequel to Forza Motorsport (Xbox) and Forza Motorsport 2 (Xbox 360). The game will include over 400 fully customizable cars from 50 manufacturers and over 100 tracks

Release date: October 27th, 2009

Developed: Turn 10

Published: Microsoft

Bundles: Limited Edition; 5 Custom Cars, Dashboard Theme, VIP Membership in Auction House, 2GB USB Stick.

250GB Xbox 360 + Game

Blixxed

If gamespot scores Forza 3 anything lower then AAA it is a complete conspericy and the FBI should step in.