Is it from jealousy? Why do cows care about this game more than lemmings? I dont get it.:|

Well, the VisionTek offers a lifetime warranty, but it happens to be one of the few cards without a rebate. I'd go with the ASUS, as there's a $30 rebate and a 3 year warranty, which should be about as long as you use it. You can also get an extra $30 off if you get the combo with a P5Q Pro motherboard, assuming you're in the market for one.kodex1717

[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]Cliffy B looks like the type of kid i'd pick on. still richer then me, though.istreakforfood

Wow you are so cool talking trash over the internet :roll:.

[QUOTE="nagol726"]alright i started by goign from 600 to 620 coreclock. the temps stayed the same. is there anythign else i shoudl look for ? is there any harm in doing this and if it goes wrong change it back?[/QUOTE

How do you know the temp stayed the same? Did you check the temp while gaming?