[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

Well, dystopian societies are usually characterized as oppressive, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the government as the oppressors. Remember that movie Rolletball in 1975? In that movie, corporations took over the government and implemented forced consumerism.

In terms of films, I'd say Rollerball and Soylent Green.

Bioshock comes to mind when talking about games (but that's a whole debateable issue - did Andrew Ryan's 'paradise' fail because libertarianism is inherently flawed or because he actively enforced restrictions on the people?).

Books include 1984 and Animal Farm, along with Litany of the Long Sun (and I'm going to get so angry if anyone mentions Ayn Rand in here...).

MarioRPGer

Gaaaaahhhhhh :evil:

wasn't The Fountainhead about a dystopian society too? I mean, it's all about the triumph of the 'individual' over evil government welfare programs...

But good lord almighty, he's the best songwriter in the history of America. Seriously. Knocking On Heaven's Door, Forever Young and stuff... when sung by other artists. Godly. th3warr1or

Cat Stevens is better.

*flame shield up

Cat Stevens has far deeper, more philosophical lyrics, is a better singer, can play more instruments, and has overcame far more hardship in his life. Who cares if he's a Muslim, he's still the best folk rock artist the galaxy has ever known.

Well, dystopian societies are usually characterized as oppressive, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the government as the oppressors. Remember that movie Rolletball in 1975? In that movie, corporations took over the government and implemented forced consumerism.

In terms of films, I'd say Rollerball and Soylent Green.

Bioshock comes to mind when talking about games (but that's a whole debateable issue - did Andrew Ryan's 'paradise' fail because libertarianism is inherently flawed or because he actively enforced restrictions on the people?).

Books include 1984 and Animal Farm, along with Litany of the Long Sun (and I'm going to get so angry if anyone mentions Ayn Rand in here...).

They do hurt their voices. They can't sing, so they scream and use cookie monster vocals.

Killer Klowns From Outer Space.

dan-rofl-copter

lol. That movie may be a cult classic, but it's rated PG...

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Uh, yes they do. Most don't because they simply don't make enough income, but those who do make enough do indeed pay income taxes...tycoonmike

Even though if you read the report sun_tzu linked to, it states, somewhere around page 23, that illegals either don't report their wages or use fraudulent SSNs to therefore file for income tax?

That's extremely difficult to do...many native English speakers who have been to college don't understand the intricacies of our SS program, let alone uneducated immigrants.

Illegal immigrants aren't an evil, malevolent force, as so many conservatives presume. They're people who do not have the means to support themselves except by working their asses off. And they boost our economy in the process.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

Even though similar things happen in other nations across the planet (the UK, for instance) without major censures for the parties involved?

tycoonmike

While I agree that it is a slightly different scenario, the fact remains that the Royal Family has little, if any, bearing on English politics. The family is a figurehead, like the Japanese imperial family. Bearing that in mind, I don't see how insulting the Prime Minister is any different than insulting the President.

Actually the Queen of England technically has a veto power, but there would be a nation-wide uproar if she were to use it. Also, she opens and closes Parliament for the legislating season.

[QUOTE="Gog"]

Dawn of the dead

The Mist

MrGanny

Dawn of the dead is awesome. Anyway, I'd say Evil Dead 1 and 2.

What the congressman did was rude. But let us stop the phony outrage over this. Bush was booed during his speeches and I specifically recall Democrats standing up and cheering when Bush spoke of failure to reform Social Security. Shame on McCain for making idiotic comments like, "In all my years, blah. blah, blah...."

MarcusAntonius

'Reform' isn't the right word here. He failed to 'demolish' Social Security. :)

Which weapon do you think is the best?

My choice is the ballistics knife 8), i saw it on the Deadliest Warrior :o

Takeshi-Lu

Don't watch that show. It's super stupid.