@ProfFrnswrth True but at least your not forced to have the ps eye, soi t's optional it seems where as kinect is mandatory. My local retailers are sold out of PS4 pre-orders. How the hell is that possible?!

Oh thank you for clearing this up, we can finally say good-bye to Online Passes. Sony FTW

For the lulz

Always stuck with Sony, from the PS1, PS2, PS3 and now the PS4. Don't get me wrong though, the 360 had features missing from the PS3. Looks like the PS4 will finally bring back the brand name everyone knew.

@FlyinBrian35 When I buy a physical product, I expect to own full rights to it, not license it. Steam is digital gaming.

@theblackfrog As well as The Crew

C-C-Combo Breaaakerrr!!

SONY BABY!!!!

Good for him, I hope it pulls through.

@Greyfeld @Dragn_mastr Lol.......